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guido
Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
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Aug 29, 2011 - 07:00pm PT
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Maxime Nordenfelt .430 inch
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Aug 29, 2011 - 07:10pm PT
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Not so much an anti-personnel weapon as one to be used against vehicles and boats.
Where is the water pump?
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Aug 29, 2011 - 07:14pm PT
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12?
20?
.410?
RPG's. Go big or go home.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Aug 29, 2011 - 07:19pm PT
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Barnes 12th edition has over 1500 cartridges and no Maxime Nordenfelt .430 inch.
It even has obscure stuff like the .577 Snider
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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Aug 29, 2011 - 07:29pm PT
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Enough with the small dick compensators, name some shitters already.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Aug 29, 2011 - 07:34pm PT
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says the guy named capinyoazz
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yo
climber
Mudcat Spire
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Aug 29, 2011 - 08:29pm PT
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You people need to stay on the thread topic, whatever the eff that is.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Aug 29, 2011 - 08:52pm PT
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Holy Crapola! I was looking at ammo prices in Cheaper than Dirt and holy effin crap the big bore monster rifle cartriges are insanely expensive!
.375 H&H $94.00 for 20 rnds
.416 Rigby $192.79
.458 Win mag $137.13
.45-70 Govt $29.19
Seems like you could get over those crazy big bore behemouths and just use 12GA Slugs for pretty much anything that needs that big of a round...
I understand the need for a Barret .50 but a feckin fancy rifle that cost a bazilion dollars and shoots ammo that cost 2 bazillion dollars for short range work that would be much better handled with a $330.00 Remington 870 pump gun with a slug barrel and Federal 3" magnum slugs @ a buck apiece
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Aug 29, 2011 - 09:11pm PT
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This shows that with guns you can even hijack a train after it has been wrecked.
The thing about the spike in ammo prices is that I have taken to shooting bench rifles more. The cartridges tend to cost more than shotguns and handguns, but the rate of fire is so much slower that they are cheaper to shoot.
Those $7/rd rifles are for guys that spend $50K on taking down something big and hairy for Ron to stuff.
(He might do some taxidermy too.)
But Tradman, shouldn't you be out rebuilding your road. Get to work. Eating apples is gonna get old fast.
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Mimi
climber
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Aug 29, 2011 - 10:26pm PT
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Sorry, didn't go back to my last high point to catch up.
The 1000 Bolts to Horse Chute claim prompted me to re-read The Book of Dik over the weekend.
There is nothing remotely normal about these guys or this route. And that's putting it nicely. harharharhar!!!!
This was not about territoriality. Warren's Forward was coerced but I would likely be sued by Bwana if I said why. I really liked the parts about their mole, Howard, who used his time in the Valley seeking out 'Rescue Site' guys for inside information and providing radio news communications every couple of days before he quit coming back. LOL! Radio silence ensued. Too bad the 'locals' didn't take it over.
Where is Howard? He's a walking archive if his memory isn't shot like so many from back then.
And about dropping the bolt bag after a couple of weeks and about five pitches up. Why didn't you simply tie some of your 9 cords together and get your groundman to tie it on? Or had he lost interest by then? Or heard so much from the 'locals' that he ran away screaming?
And where's the Brit who belayed Skid while Bwana was attending to one of his first lawsuits in LA for a few days? He also disappeared after that slogfest on P2.
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Da_Dweeb
climber
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Aug 29, 2011 - 11:08pm PT
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Meme wrote:
A bunch more blathering hate
Pictured (From left to right): Richard Jensen, Werner, Mimi
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BASE1361
climber
Yosemite Valley National Park
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Aug 29, 2011 - 11:09pm PT
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Coz: you're right, MF*#ker is a POS. His only purpose in life is to set an example of the kind of person NEVER to become and to give men in prison something to pound.
Donini vs Coz: Donini would wup or ass. You're both bad ass climbers, but Jim would f*#k up to seven ways to sunday.
Mimi: carry on. Keep gobbl'n up the spew you do. You have to be full by now Mimi, and seriously taking in that much protien gives you mud butt. You should call MF*#ker and he'll help you out. And I'm sure Steve won't mind watching.
He could write the book on it, just like you 2 are trying with climbing "ethics"
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wildone
climber
Troy, MT
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Aug 29, 2011 - 11:46pm PT
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BOOM! That just happened.
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MTucker
Ice climber
Arizona
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Aug 30, 2011 - 12:11am PT
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Place and time dickhead, I mean Jim Donini!
Werner, I'll take your advice, but this guy is so much BS it's hard too take.
I was taking the piss out of Jim, a man I know and respect and I'm not fighting anyone.
You should add hypocrite too COZ. These comments don't mix. Even if you say you where "JK".
Now don't cry and take your marbles and run home.
I'm so far removed from climbing, climbers and all the groupies who wanted to be cool, that this whole thing seems like a joke.
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jfailing
Trad climber
Lone Pine
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Aug 30, 2011 - 01:26am PT
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a.lake
climber
big rock candy mountain
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Aug 30, 2011 - 02:02am PT
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Faked: WoS thread is the biggest dicktease on the hole-fuggin wimpernet.
(and apparently A&K are taking the money $hot literally. well played)
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Largo
Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
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Aug 30, 2011 - 02:41am PT
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How could anyone ever look up the Super Slab (the start of WOS) and believe there was an authentic route there - authentic being a highly subjective word, granted. I see those 5 bolt belays and know these guys had way too much time on their hands. It's like the Gringo version of the compressor route on Cerro Torre, but less. Sh#t, I don't know, but I can't imagine spending so much time on so little.
JL
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Technogeekery
Trad climber
Tokyo, Japan
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Aug 30, 2011 - 03:27am PT
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Same is frequently said about aid climbing in general...
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hamie
Social climber
Thekoots
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Aug 30, 2011 - 03:50am PT
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Upthread, before it was hi-jacked by the gun lobby, Lovegasoline asked:
"Hooking in general seems a pretty old technique. When did it start?"
Hooking is reputedly the oldest of all professions, so it started way, way back. For most people, technique changes and improves with age.
Richard, I think that your book and climb are both great. However since I have never made a FA on El Cap, nor climbed WOS, it appears that I am not qualified to make a comment, or hold an opinion on this matter. Hang in a little while longer. Ammon's article will be out soon enough, and I expect you guys to be finally vindicated. If anyone can handle a little more "sh*t and abuse", then you can.
Cheers, HM.
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