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Ouch!

climber
Topic Author's Original Post - Oct 25, 2008 - 12:46am PT
OUCH! was my dad. My name is Allie and I am his daughter. I am very saddened to tell his friends on this forum the news that he passed away last week. I have helped my mom (yes...that is the two of them at Yosemite in the photo posted here previously)with all of his paperwork and it was quite apparent that he wanted some of you on this forum to know...when the time came. Apologies for taking the mystery out of it for some of you... : )...Damn...he was good...but I want him to be remembered by as many people as possible because the world was a much better place with him in it.

You probably have no idea the great gift you gave...when you shared bits of your life with him. I thank you for that more than you can possibly know. He lived the type of life you live now ...and trust me when I say that he did it all...until he could not do it any longer...and then he continued to live it through you all. Amazing...that he was so fortunate to have found you...and that you took him on so many trips with you...because that is indeed what you did.


I would like anyone who would like to take this offline to email me at the address at the bottom. I will answer any questions you may have & if there is anything you can share with me about my dad that you think would make me smile...I would love to hear it because that is what his specialty was. He was a great man and will be missed by all that have known him. I will also check back to this forum tonight and tomorrow. I am not comfortable being on here other than for this weekend...This forum and what came from it was all his....

My deepest and most sincere gratitude to the friends of OUCH!
You will be in my heart forever...for giving the most important person in my family's world an aspect of his life back that no one else could. He was one of a kind...

~Allie
alawas@microsoft.com
MisterE

Trad climber
My Inner Nut
Oct 25, 2008 - 12:48am PT
This...is....the...worst....of...news.

So sad tonight, all of a sudden.

The work and energy you gave us was some of the best. Thanks, Ouch, and Allie for caring enough to let us know.

Erik
Lynne Leichtfuss

Social climber
valley center, ca
Oct 25, 2008 - 12:52am PT
Well, shocked and saddened as I know the rest of the Taco Forum is. Will post more tomorrow. Just to hard to processes now.

Lynnie
dirtbag

climber
Oct 25, 2008 - 12:53am PT
Oh no, I am so sorry!

This just breaks my heart. He brought a lot of joy and a lot of laughs to the people here, including me.

He will be greatly missed by us all!
Ricky D

Trad climber
Sierra Westside
Oct 25, 2008 - 12:54am PT
We are poorer for his passing.

I will miss his visual wit.

As will Bear 46 I suppose.


Jerry Dodrill

climber
Sebastopol, CA
Oct 25, 2008 - 12:55am PT
Oh man. Say it ain't so!

WBraun

climber
Oct 25, 2008 - 01:00am PT
Farewell our good friend .....

Mighty Hiker

Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Oct 25, 2008 - 01:02am PT
I am very saddened to hear of the death of our impish friend, who brought many LOLs to the world of SuperTopo. We will miss him sorely, and you and all Ouch!'s family have our condolences.

As you are part of Ouch!'s family, so are you part of the SuperTopo family. You are welcome to visit us here as long as you wish, and we would be happy to hear more. Many of us have speculated about the true identity of Ouch!, and so if you feel it would be right, please tell us a bit about him. Stories and photos are all welcome, also why he felt drawn to our zany little world, and Yosemite. If there is a memorial, it's possible that local SuperTopians may attend, and we'd all like to see anything that may be published in the paper about Ouch!

You may see many many posts to this thread over the next fews days and more, from all those who've enjoyed Ouch!'s humour and art. So don't go away soon!

You can always send photos by e-mail, and we'll post them for you. Possibly with #46 added, of course.

Anders

I believe this is the photo that Ouch!'s daughter refers to.
graniteclimber

Trad climber
Nowhere
Oct 25, 2008 - 01:04am PT
I am very sorry. You have my condolences. Ouch! made me laugh often. I will miss him.
JuanDeFuca

Big Wall climber
Stoney Point
Oct 25, 2008 - 01:05am PT
Your Dad was the greatest. I was the brunt of many of his cartons but I never felt insulted.

God Speed Ouch!

Juan
John Moosie

climber
Beautiful California
Oct 25, 2008 - 01:07am PT
I'm at a loss for words. Ouch was the best. I don't think I have laughed harder at anyone else's wit. What a great man. I would love to know his real story.

Allie, I know he was a private man, but whatever you care to share with us, we would appreciate. He brought a lot of joy with him. And please check in longer then the weekend. We will need time to deal with this.

Ouch is the man. We were blessed to have him. I will miss his pictures of cornbread and sliced tomatoes. They always made me smile.

John Musgrove
MisterE

Trad climber
My Inner Nut
Oct 25, 2008 - 01:10am PT
"You will be in my heart forever...for giving the most important person in my family's world an aspect of his life back that no one else could. He was one of a kind.."


Just crying
labrat

Trad climber
Nevada
Oct 25, 2008 - 01:13am PT
A sad day. Thanks Ouch.
Erik
blackbird

Trad climber
the flat water trails...
Oct 25, 2008 - 01:19am PT
wow...

like LEB, I, too, had an erie feeling regarding your dad. He and I shared many many emails about life in the southeast, and I am more than honored to have been the subject of many of his - ah - renderings!!

Sam is/was a special man and will always have a dear place in my heart. My condolences and sincere sympathy to you and your family at this difficult time...

You are all in my thoughts and prayers, and I will forever be grateful for the smiles - and guffaws - that your father brought to my life... He is not one easily forgotten...

Samantha
paganmonkeyboy

climber
mars...it's near nevada...
Oct 25, 2008 - 01:21am PT
oh no...ouch we will miss you...
-tom
Wayno

Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
Oct 25, 2008 - 01:32am PT
That's so sad. I never knew the man, but as many here have and will say ,he made us laugh like no other. Vaya con Deos, Amigo.
Paul_in_Van

Trad climber
Near Squampton
Oct 25, 2008 - 01:34am PT
Dear Allie;

Thank you for taking the time to let us know of your Dad's passing. He was certainly one of the most memorable posters on ST and we are blessed to have been part of his life, much less a return to a world he thought he may not have had the chance to share in again. It was our honour to have him as part of the family here.

While it saddens me to hear that he has left us all, my heart particularly goes out to you, your mother and the rest of your family. Please accept my condolences for your and our loss.

RIP Ouch! You will be remembered.

Paul
mojede

Trad climber
Butte, America
Oct 25, 2008 - 01:36am PT
The Taco will be dimmer without the light that OUCH! shone.

To click on a thread that OUCH! started, or contributed to, was a journey into a world of creativity that most will not know or understand.

Fortunately, the memory of OUCH! is permanently etched into the annals of Supertopo history--search his avatar infinitely so that his soul and spirit remains alive.

nita

climber
chica from chico, I don't claim to be a daisy
Oct 25, 2008 - 01:36am PT
Is this really true? I am deeply deeply saddened. I will miss him..I will miss his new art, his humor, his feistiness. Who will call me Darlin', i loved it when he called me that. I loved saying ~Yellerpines ~. I loved thinking about him fooling us and peaking at us in Yeller pines. I loved the Mystery....I loved Ouch.

crying...very sad.. blue http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GU2uVW-Sk3o

*Sending my Love out to your family...

Allie,it's kinda funny..your Dad and Mom's photo in Yosemite - has been in my favorite pic file since the first day he posted it.

nita

murcy

climber
San Fran Cisco
Oct 25, 2008 - 01:37am PT
No!

They say "unique" doesn't have a superlative. But Ouch was the uniquest. He added more personality, more creativity, more zing to this campfire than any five of the rest of us.

Thank you, and I'm so sorry.

Let me add that none of them will say this, but many of these tributes (not mine, for sure!) are written by very famous, even legendary rock climbers and mountaineers. Your father had -- has -- friends in high places.
Dudeman

Trad climber
Hansen, Idaho
Oct 25, 2008 - 01:42am PT
Total bummer. Every time time I saw his sceen name come up I knew he would have something great to express. Many laughs.
So sorry.
Mark
spyork

Social climber
A prison of my own creation
Oct 25, 2008 - 01:47am PT
How sad, the artwork your father created was always great to see.
Jello

Social climber
No Ut
Oct 25, 2008 - 01:48am PT
I am................devastated. Allie, your dad meant so much to me. And I only knew him through this forum. I know you must feel so fortunate to have him as your dad. My deepest sympathies to you. I am weeping, crying and laughing remembering the limited part of Ouch I knew.

PLEASE expand our knowledge of his wonderfull spirit, and the flesh and blood vessel that graced our planet for a while.

Love to you and your family,

-Jeff Lowe
Sherri

climber
WA
Oct 25, 2008 - 02:03am PT
Supertopo won't be the same without him.

Our deepest condolences to you and your family, Allie.

Sherri
Redwreck

Social climber
Los Angeles, CA
Oct 25, 2008 - 02:04am PT
Oh, no. My condolences to you Allie. Ouch was a true original and will be missed.
nita

climber
chica from chico, I don't claim to be a daisy
Oct 25, 2008 - 02:14am PT
It would be sweet if someone would post up a thread of all his cartoons.

It was an honor to get...Ouched. ;-)
John Moosie

climber
Beautiful California
Oct 25, 2008 - 02:14am PT
Thanks Lois, for sharing that picture. Hopefully those that know how to post Ouches cartoons will start adding them here.

Dang.. this just makes me sad.
Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Oct 25, 2008 - 02:21am PT
Fuçk. Please say it ain't so. As the butt of many of Sam's cartoons and persistent heckling,
I can say unequivocally that the man had a special talent and spirit. We watched as his
rudimentary art was honed and refined before our very eyes. Whenever I would call him
on something, he would invariably reply with a "ROTFLMAO!" - and it was all good.

Rest in peace, brother Ouch!
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Oct 25, 2008 - 02:46am PT
hey there all, and dear daughter of ouch!, dear allie... say, i just got out of work and babysitting and a serious phone call, and my guinea pig dying, and now i feel so studpid for crying over it----i never that somehow dear to us, here, had died...

i am very sorry to heree this sad news... dear gal, to lose a beloved father, there is just no words right now... i am very sad for you, as i too, love my father and surely can only wish you the deepest strong-anchor to hold you through this, as i would wish and want for myself...

my dear and deep condolences to you...

i had been praying for him, because awhile back, he was not here for so very long and folks were worried---then, someone posted that he was not doing well, and i took to heart that perhaps something was really wrong (not just a one time, feeling-bad)...

at least, i know in my heart, that my prayers somehow helped, but i will never how, or in what way---i hope it was to ease any pain...

sure wish that i had more to have shared with OUCH! here, but he stood-ground very solid with everyone here, in love, so i always knew he enough treasures... still, i tried to share what i could...

god bless to your family at this time, dear daughter of his, and i too loved that shared picture of him and his wife at yosemite--now i have a picture to remember him by, along with his art and skills that are left behind...

love to you, neebee...

edit: oh, my... i am so ashamed:

dear wife of ouch!--say, i had not even mentioned you, as i addressesed this to allie...

may your heart not break so hard that you forget the wonderful joys of your life with your man... may it break only enough to know the true value of your full treasure that had with him, while he was with you... and may you have even more joy, in the heavenly realm, when the time comes, to continue your friendship and partnership and loving bond, for a world we can only guess at now...

i am very sad and feel sorrow for your loss, and my deep condolences to you...

your man shared his life very nice here with all of us... kind of as we all were family, here to him, too....

god bless and love, neebee
Majid_S

Mountain climber
Bay Area
Oct 25, 2008 - 02:50am PT
Ouch was the greatest person in taco stand .RIP my friend
Matt

Trad climber
primordial soup
Oct 25, 2008 - 02:59am PT
wow
devistating



so sorry for your loss



















dood was a funny man
Ouch!

climber
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 25, 2008 - 03:27am PT
Friends of Ouch!,

I am speechless...which is an unusual state for me. I was not prepared for this quick response of heartfelt comments about my dad although it does not suprise me. He is amazing. I am struggling to come up with what to say so bear with me...Not a matter of not having a lot to say about him..just trying to figure out what he would want. He was a very private man but appropriately so. He did not want a memorial. Adamant about it. I have some ideas in that regard though but cannot talk about that yet...not yet.

He was the kind of man all men aspire to be. My world changed forever at 2:30 on the 16th of October. His name was Allen. Others called him big Al.(not sure where the Sam thing came from...hehe)He is 6'6. He was strong and could do anything. Everything he touched turned to gold but he needed little to make him happy. It was never about him. He was the youngest of 8... I want him back and probably have no business posting here right now. I am the youngest of his 3 kids. I have two older brothers. He has 4 grandkids. Mine are 16 and 17 and the 3 of us live in Kirkland WA. He has a 26 yr old granddaughter in Dublin and a 2 yr old grandson in WA. He lived in Spokane WA with my mom and they were married for 51 years. He was born and raised in Tennessee and we moved to Montana in 1969 or so and to WA in '82. In the winter he would drive out with his truck looking for people that had went in ditches to pull them out and get them home. He plowed the entire neighborhoods driveways of snow. All winter. He fished and gave fish to people that were crappy fishermen so they could take some home to their family. Did the same with hunting. He was a survival instructor in the Air Force when younger and worked for the Tennessee Valley Authority and then the Bureau of Reclamation in Montana where he retired early and then went on to retire with Washington Water Power. He was a power operator. He hunted, hiked, and fished and played many sports...He got a scholarship to Vanderbilt for football and it was taken away before it started when he and some others were kicked out of the Grand Ole Opry for being rowdy...hehe...it was live in those days...(somehow I can picture that) He also held 2 freshwater fish world records...

Thank you for sharing what he said about my mom and his marriage. Wow. Simply...thank you for posting that. He meant every word and exemplified it every day. I like that he said that and when she is ready it will mean so very much to her.

His family was everything to him...thank you for the nice words and for thinking of us during this time. He would have loved to know that you did that. I wish you knew just how much... My dad never judged a single living sole in his lifetime. He liked simple things...was highly intelligent...wicked sense of humor...biggest heart ever and would give the shirt off his back if you needed it more than he did. I have many pics but I am at his house right now so will wait until I get home on Sunday for that. I would love to see the pics he did for some of you. That would make me and my mom incredibly happy...

Sorry...that's all I have in me right now...

Damn...

~Allie






Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
Oct 25, 2008 - 03:58am PT

It's like losing Charlie Chaplin and the Dalai Lama in one shot.

Hearing the news opens my heart and makes the tears flow. I don't dare be sad because I only want to wish him well on his ultimate adventure, but indeed, he has loved us and blessed up all here on Supertopo.

It was always plain that he had Love in his heart for everyone. We felt it. We all fought with each other but nobody fought ouch. He was the honey that took the edge off of everything.

I wish you infinite bliss and peace sweet friend, on your definitive journey into the source of Love itself.


Karl Baba
dipper

climber
Oct 25, 2008 - 03:58am PT
Allie,

your dad made me laugh hard on many occasions.

He and his impish spirit will be missed around here.

And I appreciate him for that!
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Arid-zona
Oct 25, 2008 - 03:59am PT
I saw all the Ouch rules threads and was wondering what was going on. This is terrible! Thank you so much for letting us know. Was it even known here that he was sick? I've never had the loss of a guy on the internet make me this sad before. This really won't be the same place without him.

Much love to you and thank you for yours.
nita

climber
chica from chico, I don't claim to be a daisy
Oct 25, 2008 - 04:06am PT
Song for Ouch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MPUkGSFZ0I

nita said: Ouch, You should expand your musical journey. ;-)"

Ouch's reply:
Sorry Nita, I'm still stuck on Jim Croce's Roller Derby Queen.

"five foot six, two fifteen, bleach-blonde mama with a streak of mean"

Now there's some kinda lyrics..








Paul Martzen

Trad climber
Fresno
Oct 25, 2008 - 04:11am PT
Thank you so very much for sharing, Allie. Ouch really was a big part of the fun of Supertaco. It is neat to hear more about his background and life. I will certainly miss his zany cartoons and irreverent humor.
Bart Fay

Social climber
Redlands, CA
Oct 25, 2008 - 04:20am PT
The worst news and the greatest of pains.
With all the BS that flies around here it may be difficult to perceive that we are
a clan of climbers that care for each other and 'know' each other intimately from
this entertainment that flows from the contributions of each.
I regret the complete lack of words to covey this sentiment. But, much more, I
regret that in his time of fear and vulnerability that we could not help wrap this man,
your dad, in the love that we all unwittingly developed for him.
Greatest of wishes for strength to the grieving family.
Indianclimber

Trad climber
Lost Wages
Oct 25, 2008 - 04:20am PT
Allie

This is such sad news,your fathers great sense of humor will
be missed,this site won't be the same without him
condolences to you and your family

Ninfa




Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
Oct 25, 2008 - 04:22am PT

Ouch!

climber
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 25, 2008 - 04:27am PT
You got the song correct...he loved Jim Croce...thus I love it too. THANK YOU for posting the pic of him shaving with the knife. It is my all time favorite and your timing was impecceble! What a man! haha! I saw that he had it on his computer but had made it where he was cutting the top of his head off and I was not sure if it had been posted here before and if anyone knew it was really him!

I am so confused right now...I see that he has posted thousands of times...I only went into the recent ones to try and gather some information but I do not know any of the names of those he was closest to and I refuse to get into his email and invade his privacy in that way. He did not want anyone to see him get sicker. It was difficult for him to have us see it. He had not been able to leave the house in quite some time...this computer, this forum, and you people...were his everything outside of his family. He felt strong and as if he would live forever when sharing with you...it had to stay that way. I hope you can all understand...

Now I see why it made him so happy.

Thank you so much... ~Allie
Wayno

Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
Oct 25, 2008 - 04:50am PT
Man o man, Allie. hearing all this stuff is bringing on a flood of emotions and memories. I'm sure the wee hours and state of mind have something to do with it but I can't help but feel your emotions. It comes through in your writing. I have this notion that your father will be rich man on the other side. He touched so many strangers on this side.
perswig

climber
Oct 25, 2008 - 06:17am PT
Allie
Thanks for filling in your father's picture for us here. His posts were always light-hearted but sometimes pointed, just enough to keep people honest. You could tell he had little ego and tons of real-world savvy. Sharing fish and game with others less fortunate (or accurate with a squirrel gun?) doesn't surprise in the least. He is assuredly a piece to this place that won't be replaced.
Dale
survival

Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
Oct 25, 2008 - 06:46am PT
Allie,

I think I surprised Ouch once, when I recognized one of his "toons" as an old Air Force Survival School photo.
It took me a couple of prods to even get him to acknowledge it!!

There were at least three of us that posted here on supertopo that were Air Force Survival Instructors. Your dad, myself and Buggs. So he really was among brothers here, even though we didn't write about it much.

Everyone looked forward to the moment that Ouch would sneak up on a thread and slice in with his unique voice of humor. He had a way of disarming any argument and making everyone laugh. I can even recall many times when people would ask within a thread when Ouch was going to hit it with his art.

It is indeed a smaller world here without him, and we are all sad for your family. As others have said, you are of course welcome here in his place at the campfire.

Bruce Birchell
AF Survival, "Drink From The Same Cup"
Home Of The Walking Air Force
Hooyah
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Oct 25, 2008 - 06:56am PT
I had a bad feeling. Our correspondence had gone stale, and Sam had made references to problems.

This is devastating news.
I went to sleep early last night only to wake to THIS.


Please know that my thoughts are with you Allie, and that Sam was a big part of why I hang out here.
It just won't be the same.
It is not good to start out crying your coffee.
Patrick Sawyer

climber
Originally California now Ireland
Oct 25, 2008 - 06:59am PT
I am at loss of words. Condolences to family and friends. I enjoyed is toons and humor. Farewell Ouch! rest in peace.
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Oct 25, 2008 - 08:22am PT
Allie, I'm sad to hear of your loss, and we've lost a great character on the forum. Thanks for posting and letting those of us who didn't know him see more about who he was.
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Oct 25, 2008 - 08:23am PT
We are less without our ability to laugh. Ouch! was heart.
My heart goes out, family & friends.

Oh, for one more cartoon...
blackbird

Trad climber
the flat water trails...
Oct 25, 2008 - 09:16am PT
ahhh... I'd FORGOTTEN about him serving in the Air Force!! (How COULD I!?!) He and I somehow got into a long e-versation about The Air Force and the fact that he had served - though he never shared in what capacity - and I was an Air Force Brat...

We also had MANYMANY conversations - both on the forum and via email - about Tennessee, TVA, hunting, fishing, the beautiful scenery and general lunacy around these parts and of course, Ringgold, GA. Sam had me absolutely rolling on the floor sharing Ringgold stories with me and about he and your mom running off to Ringgold... (it's only about 15 - 20 minutes from me.) Now THAT is a place you would appreciate visiting and seeing through your Dads eyes!! WHEW!! The quips he could pop off about North GA/East TN (and with such accuracy!!)

I am truly honored to have been able to share parts of his epic story with him... And even more so to have been "Ouch!ed" on more than one occasion!!

Thank you for sharing even more of this special man with all of us...

Much love and yes, joy, to you and your family, particularly your mother, as you transition through this time and celebrate an amazing man. I do hope that those who have them will post some of Sam/Al's art so that you and your family are able to share even more in the humor (the "honey" if you will...) that kept all of us smiling despite - or perhaps because of - our differences and begging for more...

Samantha
rlf

Trad climber
Josh, CA
Oct 25, 2008 - 09:54am PT
Oh, this is very sad news indeed. Ouch was one in a million here on the taco stand!

Condolences.
divad

Trad climber
wmass
Oct 25, 2008 - 10:05am PT
This will be a lesser place with this loss, but through this terrible news I actually feel better about this site as I hear all of you expressing your feelings towards Ouch!.

Thank you Allie, my condolences.

Thanks for the laughs Ouch!.

Dave
goatboy smellz

climber
स्कन्ध, co
Oct 25, 2008 - 10:16am PT

Paulina

Trad climber
Oct 25, 2008 - 10:20am PT
I didn't really know him, but his cartoons always brightened the day. Thank you and RIP Ouch!
Double D

climber
Oct 25, 2008 - 10:25am PT
Allie, my prayers and condolences go out for you, your family and your dad's friends. We will all miss his offbeat humor and pictures. The world, I'm sure, is a better place because of him.
Crag Q

Trad climber
Louisville, Colorado
Oct 25, 2008 - 11:09am PT
I'm very sorry to hear he has passed on. My condolences to his friends and family. His spritely and off beat humor will be missed.
maldaly

Trad climber
Boulder, CO
Oct 25, 2008 - 11:10am PT
Oh Allie,
I'm so sorry to hear this. Your dad was the greatest moderating influence on this forum. He had an amazing way of "slicing" in his incisive humor just as a thread was going to hell. I can just imagine how well he did that around a campfire or dinner table. My life is poorer for not having known him outside of this forum and life is sad now that I know he's gone.

peace,
Mal
Mtnmun

Trad climber
Top of the Mountain Mun
Oct 25, 2008 - 11:15am PT
Whew, tears run down my cheek. Ouch brightened our day with laughter and love. He will be so missed here. My condolences to your family Allie.

Jude
graham

Social climber
Ventura, California
Oct 25, 2008 - 11:29am PT
Really sorry to hear this, I will miss his humor and perspective.

My condolences

Mike
east side underground

Trad climber
crowley ca
Oct 25, 2008 - 11:40am PT
sorry for your loss-RIP ouch.
Jaybro

Social climber
wuz real!
Oct 25, 2008 - 11:46am PT
I just woke up to this (asleep early last night) and I'm bawling like a baby.
Thank you Ouch!
Thank you Allie, you know where to look if you need anything we can help with.
Death in the family/a life to celebrate.
My daughter felt proud to be ouched.

Whoever was archiving those Ouch! cartoons, how's that coming ?
survival

Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
Oct 25, 2008 - 11:56am PT
Allie,

I hope you saw my earlier post.
Do you have any plans or contacts at the Survival school to let
them know?

If you would like, you can e-mail me some info
and I will make sure it gets into the Survival
newsletter.
His name, and his class number if you can find it.
Any other info you would like to include about where he
taught, awards/medals etc. You can make it informative or simple, whichever you prefer. There are probably classmates of his that would like to know.
I know he graduated at Stead and not the Fairchild Instructor
course. That makes him one of the true originals from our
career field and his passing should be recognized among
Survival Instructors.
All our best wishes from the Survival Brotherhood,
Bruce
Chris2

Trad climber
Oct 25, 2008 - 12:01pm PT
Allie,

“Know this well… your dad’s humor touched many, many lives.” His writings, his illustrations, will be sadly missed. May peace and love be with you and your family, during this difficult, caring time.
Largo

Sport climber
Venice, Ca
Oct 25, 2008 - 12:05pm PT
His goofy art was priceless. I will miss his contributions to this forum.

Love to all,

JL
Prod

Big Wall climber
A place w/o Avitars apparently
Oct 25, 2008 - 12:07pm PT
Sad news, seems like he had a good go of it.

Prod.
dirtbag

climber
Oct 25, 2008 - 12:09pm PT
Allie, is there any charity that was important to your dad?

With so many SuperTaco members touched by him, we could probably put together a pretty decent fund in his name.
nature

climber
Santa Fe, NM
Oct 25, 2008 - 12:24pm PT
Allie,

my deepest condolences to you and your mom. I'm am so truly saddened to read of his passing. I'm in tears.

I've been so blessed to be the subject of many of his cartoons. Most involved sushi and sushifest and because of his work our fests were that much better and that much more fun.

I wasn't going to open the forum this morning. But when I did and saw this post at the top I knew it wasn't going to be one of his amazing cartoons.

I pretty much lost it when I went back to the home page to see someone had bumped the appreciation thread I authored. I cried the entire way to my yoga class. I dedicated my practice this morning to Allen.

This is the first cartoon I recall made with me as part of the content:

A while back I dug up some of the cartoons related to sushi and made a little web page:
http://www.sushibynature.com/newindex.php?page=ouch§ion=media

Ouch! rest in peace. I'll see you on the other side....

Om Shani,
Doug


Dick_Lugar

Trad climber
Indiana (the other Mideast)
Oct 25, 2008 - 12:25pm PT
Allie,

Sincerest condolences to you and your family. This caught me by surprise. I did not know your dad was ailing of late. He posted like a strong, young man which is testament to his spirit and soul. His youthfulness and humor will be missed here on ST.

Kind Regards...

Frank
Mighty Hiker

Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Oct 25, 2008 - 12:33pm PT
Ouch! was a welcome note of whimsy and laughter in our little world, and will be sorely missed. I hope Allie will be able to tell us more about our friend, but I'm sure we'll all understand if that can't be.

I never had the honour to be lampooned in one of Ouch!'s cartoons, at least as far as I know. The B&W photo upthread was posted to one of the FaceLift threads, only about two weeks ago. It looks like it's a honeymoon photo, or perhaps one from early in married life, from the late 1940s or early 1950s. In front of Bridalveil Falls, appropriately enough. So we finally had a picture of Ouch! (and Mrs. Ouch!), we just didn't know it. (Edit: It turns out that the photo was re-posted; it was first posted about a year ago.)

When I first visited SuperTopo, it took a bit of effort to get intelligible instructions on how to post photos. (Crimpie helped - the geeks tend to be rather cryptic.) I noticed that other people had the same challenge, and so developed some detailed instructions, which I send to people whenever they post a request. At the end, I always put in the following: "For practical purposes, a photo on ST is in the public domain - if nothing else, Ouch! may add a bear to it." My little joke on Ouch! Sadly, I'll now have to change that.
WBraun

climber
Oct 25, 2008 - 12:37pm PT
Wow!

After reading Allie's bio on OUCH! it turns out he was a total bad ass hard man with a huge compassionate heart.

All glories to OUCH!
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
Oct 25, 2008 - 12:41pm PT
Ah man....this is terrible news. Ouch was one of a kind.

God bless him.

I don't know what else to say....this is saddening.
survival

Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
Oct 25, 2008 - 12:49pm PT
Hey gang,

At the Survival school, we had to do climbing and rope rescue stuff as part of our training. Does anyone know if Ouch climbed after his military service, or was he just here for the love of the whacky community?
Bruce
nature

climber
Santa Fe, NM
Oct 25, 2008 - 01:07pm PT
Just a note: The reason some of us knew him as Sam is because if you emailed him he used "Sam Martin" in his email address.

LOL!!! That sneaky little bugger!
jstan

climber
Oct 25, 2008 - 01:08pm PT
Allie:

This feels every bit like a death in the family.

We all form an image of the person we would like to know or to become.

We were so lucky to have had a chance actually to meet him here.
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Oct 25, 2008 - 01:14pm PT
The man gave much of himself to us and there was a self effacing paternal flair to his contributions; sincere humor is of inestimable value to quality of life.
Condolences to his family.

bob d'antonio

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Oct 25, 2008 - 01:18pm PT
Very sad news..hope the best for his family and close friends. He always made us laugh here on ST...what a great gift.

Allie...you dad gave way more than he ever took on this site.
captain chaos

climber
Oct 25, 2008 - 01:18pm PT
Our family would like to send our condolences to you and your family Allie... Your father was one of the finer posters and spirits on this forum and will be heavily missed. Although I did not know him other then his postings on this forum, he postings and sense of humor always made me laugh... Its clear he was a great person and had a kind soul, not many people go out of their way to help people in this world any more, although he did... the world has just lost one of its gems- Our best wishes to you and your family- Craig Calonica and family
TradIsGood

Chalkless climber
the Gunks end of the country
Oct 25, 2008 - 01:29pm PT
What a loss! The man was a true gentleman and had a great sense of humor. He was smart, too. I learned some good stuff from some of his serious posts.

Allie, thank you so much for sharing his bio with us. You are getting his memorial here. We are all sad. That is probably why he said he did not want one.

But when someone leaves people need to get together to share the happy memories, even with tears in their eyes (yup, mine too). I like so many others knew him only from his posts.

I hope you have a real memorial to add to this virtual one. It is for the survivors - to honor or even to reminisce and enjoy retelling or even hearing for the first time things they share.

Let's hope we all leave as well loved as he did.
JOEY.F

Social climber
sebastopol
Oct 25, 2008 - 02:01pm PT
Oh No,
So sad,
Rest In Peace, Ouch.
the museum

Trad climber
Rapid City, SD
Oct 25, 2008 - 02:07pm PT
Thank you for everthing,OUCH!

the museum

Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
Oct 25, 2008 - 02:09pm PT
philo

Trad climber
boulder, co.
Oct 25, 2008 - 02:14pm PT
OUCH! This hurts!
Lynne Leichtfuss

Social climber
valley center, ca
Oct 25, 2008 - 02:33pm PT
Allie, So shocked last night I just couldn't process the news. Still having trouble comprehending the fact your Dad is no longer with us.

I just want to say how wonderful your Dad was to me. I am a newer member of this forum. Didn't even know about it until my husband died 10 months ago. An old friend of my husbands posted a memorial thread and I have been here ever since.

Your Dad emailed me and made me feel welcome here and gave this newbie pointers so I wouldn't make a bigger idiot of myself than I was already doing : ))

I was honored several times when your Dad made cartoons for me. What a great guy, a special man, You and Your Family are so Blessed to have him as a Dad, Granddad and Friend.

Pray the God of All Comforts comfort you during this very difficult time. We are all here for you. Sincerely, Lynne Leichtfuss.

Wayno

Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
Oct 25, 2008 - 02:40pm PT
It just occurred to me after stubbing my toe about ten minutes ago that Ouch has left us all with a great gift. Whenever you hurt yourself and that expression pops into mind, you can remember Ouch and have a smile in spite of the pain. Thanks buddy.
Anastasia

climber
Not there
Oct 25, 2008 - 02:48pm PT
I am so shocked and saddened, Ouch was the first person (along with his trusty bear #46) to make me feel welcomed.
I say this with all my heart and soul that he will be greatly missed,
Anastasia Frangos
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Redlands
Oct 25, 2008 - 03:00pm PT
Condolences. We will miss him.
Psycho

Mountain climber
Kingston, ID
Oct 25, 2008 - 03:41pm PT
I was priviliged to know and work with "Ouch" in 55-57. At that time he was known only as "Tennessee" He & I were an interrogation team at the USAF Survival School in Reno, Nevada. We then moved to Biloxi, MS for Electronic Countermeasures School. This was the fledgling concept that would eventually create the Air Commandos. "Ouch" after about 6-7 months of school in a windowless building told the shrink that he needed to be back outdoors. When you left the ECM school you usually were sent to some scut job within the USAF. "Ouch" went to a school in the Dakotas. I have so many fond memories of both "Ouch" and Janie that I would consume all the space in the forum. In summation: A true christian, physically powerful, caring, beuatiful man that I was priviliged to call a friend. Jon Eisler
Don't let go

Trad climber
Yorba Linda, CA
Oct 25, 2008 - 03:59pm PT
As it has been said over and over, his pictures were wonderful. Supertopo will not be the same without him. It is sad to lose someone that brightened the world.
Gary Carpenter

climber
SF Bay Area
Oct 25, 2008 - 03:59pm PT
Allie,

Thanks for sharing some of your Dad's history. His posts were always a breath of fresh air...usually humorous..never rude.

I recently lost my Dad. He had the same habit of plowing the snow from all the neighbors driveways.

I'm so sorry for your loss.

Gary
pc

climber
East of Seattle
Oct 25, 2008 - 03:59pm PT
Truly sad. Ouch provided such a nice balance when things got too serious here.

Nice to get to know a bit of his background.

Cheers for Ouch,

Peter
Mighty Hiker

Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Oct 25, 2008 - 04:08pm PT
Allie and her mother have agreed to my posting the following.

Ouch!'s obituary was in the Spokane Spokesman-Review on October 22nd, and is at http://www.spokesmanreview.com:80/obits/?search=on&catID=13&fname=Allen&lname=&keywords=&sdate=&edate

His true name was Allen G. Schrimsher, but for us he'll always be our beloved Ouch!
lars johansen

Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
Oct 25, 2008 - 04:09pm PT
Most sincere condolences Alie. OUCH will be missed.

vaya con dios OUCH

We'll be there with you soon enough.

lars
schwortz

Social climber
davis, ca
Oct 25, 2008 - 04:25pm PT
RIP

someone needs to put up a route in honor of ouch...
survival

Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
Oct 25, 2008 - 04:36pm PT
That's 4 USAF Survival Instructors on the Taco.
How cool. Thanks for a bit more history psycho.
AbeFrohman

Trad climber
new york, NY
Oct 25, 2008 - 04:39pm PT
crap crap crap crap crap.
Sad news. Rest in peace.
Jaybro

Social climber
wuz real!
Oct 25, 2008 - 04:45pm PT
That's what I did too, Kath, I sent an Email to my daughter saying, "you've been Ouched," with the picture.
nature

climber
Santa Fe, NM
Oct 25, 2008 - 04:51pm PT
Hey EKat... it's quite possible you have been Ouched! and don't know it. I've already found three cartoons that your van is in.


From the last 200 posts searched I found these:
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http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/4779/img25589sp9.jpg
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http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/6655/142lbspeck4rywj6.jpg
http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/3621/turtle6jpgrg6.jpg
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/1540/ouchyh5.jpg
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/923/dwpooptt8.gif
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http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/2700/catlockil3.gif
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/9965/10eastside08vz6.jpg
http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/5021/bottleui0.jpg
http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/5543/crisisnw3.jpg
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/6512/copy2of102xf3.jpg
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/5049/fatdump2rj5.gif
http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/6078/copy2of102hn2.jpg
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/4373/2008faceliftsept26126dh3.jpg
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/348/pootjf8.gif
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/2486/npsete9.gif
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/319/karldrumbv0.gif
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/7706/eggheadzb3.gif
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/7703/copyofimg1753ao5.jpg
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/9135/gasgr8.jpg
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/6538/copyof46andsidekickhh5.jpg
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/9365/waspue6.jpg
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/9156/copyoftarantulafeedingbj8.jpg
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/8113/55eo4.jpg
http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/757/picture355nr8.jpg
http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/6877/moosewn7.jpg
http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/7896/copyofcopyofpirates3phohl7.jpg
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/7200/gooeynaturewn3.gif
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/4868/img1815nn0.jpg
http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/350/dw2xy2.gif
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/2646/dwainboogls2.gif
http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/2341/fatbankit7.jpg
http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/350/dw2xy2.gif
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/2781/dudleyny7.jpg
http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/6753/copyofrtgwap9.jpg
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/958/russballetld9.gif
http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/430/copyofdsc02117ih9.jpg

45 out of 200. projected that'd be like 1700 comics out there.
Jingy

Social climber
Flatland, Ca
Oct 25, 2008 - 05:01pm PT
I'm at a loss.


Ouch will be missed.
Ouch!

climber
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 25, 2008 - 05:07pm PT
From Allie..

Thank you all....so very much. What it means to me to read these postings is something I cannot even begin to describe.

I am at his house and an old guy just stopped by wanting to know if we needed any yard work done. My mom said that yes, she needed the beds all cut down and it basically winterized and a few bushes trimmed. Dad did not use a traditional yard type service. He used the hard working guy that was probably about a week away from living out of the truck he drove up in. He paid him more than he should have but knew that the man was honest and he respected him for the effort he put in and the help he provided because he could no longer do it himself.

They have a very small yard that he used to have small ponds with little fountains and waterfalls in them that he built himself. He put goldfish in them to entertain the grandkids...but the coons would get them and so he set traps to catch them. He would catch one and drive it out to the country to release. He may have been an avid hunter in his day but it was for food not for simply sport. He made fishing jigs that he melted down the lead and put it in molds and then painted on the colored faces and tied antelope tail hair onto it that he would sometimes dye different colors. I sold them attached to a piece of cardboard at local gas stations in Montana. We got minnows by the hundred by us kids seining for them and we were always in the water up to our necks while he was on the bank laughing! One time my show came off in the mud and there was a giant bull snake coming down from the side of a hill. I was freaking out and I lost my shoe and he teased me about it up until the end. We sold minnows and I got nightcrawlers out of the yard (we had the best nightcrawler yard in town) all summer long and sold them to his fishermen friends. He taught me to fish and I still love to do it to this day. I combined 2 old tackle boxes a couple weeks ago and found a picture he had drawn when I was young...I kept it and it will stay in that box forever. There was also written instructions on how to tie a hook because he always did it for me when we fished together. When I moved out of their house he wanted me to know how to do it on my own. He was the king of paddlefishing. He built a stand on the front of his little fishing boat and we would go out at night...he had a spotlight on the stand and the paddlefish would rise to the top at night and you would see the flash of it's white belly...and he would use a bow and arrow with a rope and bleach bottle attached and then we would chase it around until it stopped. Kind of like Jaws...hehe. He loved it. My friends and I would beg to go with and then would fall asleep in the bottom of the boat and wake up at the bank surrounded by giant fish laying next to us! I have pics of him with some that he caught that I will share. He was well known as a premier fisherman. He told many a story about survival training in which they were dropped in places and the things they ate...yuck. : ) We went fossil hunting a lot and it was my favorite thing to do with him. Digging in the side of a hill for hours...always finding cool fossils and imprints of things in rocks we would break. He knew all of the best fossil hunting grounds. He knew everything it seemed to me. If he didn't he would find out. We would cross over property that had gates that were secured by a rope and he would let me open and close the gate and I remember the feeling I got still everytime I did that. He taught me to drive out on those roads. Much younger than I was supposed to be...and it was awesome.

Ok...so then I remember the time in high school when I came home one day and he had sold my car (old crown victoria of theirs that waw worth a whole lot more) to the neighbor kid for $200 because he had asked him if he would and "he needed it more than you did." haha! Not so funny then. He got me another old car at some point but he left the 8 track player and my tapes in it and the kid wouldn't give them back! I loved that car...but one thing dad taught us all was that stuff is just stuff.

My all time favorite memory is this one though. Dad's office was across a field from our house. I would meet him halfway across that field many many times and he would have 2 small bottled cokes and a bag of peanuts that he got at work. We would pour the peanuts into the cokes and they would fizz up. We would drink them together and eat the peanuts when we got to the bottom as we walked the rest of the way home together.

Priceless...

I am so glad he sold the neighbor kid my car for 200 bucks.

~Allie
Todd Gordon

Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
Oct 25, 2008 - 05:18pm PT
So sorry to hear this;.....rest in peace, friend with the wicked sense of humor......thank you for sharing so much with so many......your spirit and wit lives on in the hearts of many....(My 4 year old son loved Ouch's work too...I think his favorite was the one with the bird crapping on Cosmic's head.....he made me play it 20 X in a row;......and laughed his ass off each time he saw it......I just kept playing it over and over just to watch my son revel in the immature yet brilliant wit of Ouch.......same with the Bobcat licking Locker's face......I could play it 1000 times, and Beck would bust up everytime...........powerful images that touched out hearts and souls..)
TwistedCrank

climber
Ideeho-dee-doe
Oct 25, 2008 - 05:30pm PT
OUCH! was one of those people that just plain got it.
dipper

climber
Oct 25, 2008 - 05:35pm PT
With the 50th Nose event coming up, maybe some talented folks could get all of Ouch's images together plus what Allie has shared with us about her dad, print em up into a book via the Interweb, sell them at the Nose show in The Valley and donate the proceeds to an Ouch approved cause.

Or something along those lines.

Maybe offer said books for sale at Sushifests.

His art is priceless. And while much of it is animated, even the stills arranged in storyboard fashion would bust a gut. Perhaps they are humorous only to the denizens of this deep and twisted TacoStand. So what.

Ouch abides.

nature

climber
Santa Fe, NM
Oct 25, 2008 - 05:39pm PT
dipper. check out my other thread. We're already working on compiling everything in one place (but just the web for now). I love the idea of an Ouch comic book. Only "problem" is it'd be 1000 pages!
crankenstein

Trad climber
Louisville, CO
Oct 25, 2008 - 05:40pm PT
My sincere condolences to his family and friends. I always looked forward to seeing his incredibly funny and artful posts. The taco stand will certainly miss this man!
yo

climber
I drink your milkshake!
Oct 25, 2008 - 05:48pm PT
Total bummer. Funny and creative guy.
couchmaster

climber
Oct 25, 2008 - 05:56pm PT
Allie: thanks for sharing how much your father meant to you. He sounds like quite a guy. I'm sure you'll miss him a lot. We were blessed to have his humor on Supertopo, sometimes you just don't know it until after the fact. I always appreciated that your dad was always humorous in a friendly manner, and ever was mean spirited about it.

He'll be missed by many.

Regards
Phil_B

Social climber
Hercules, CA
Oct 25, 2008 - 05:57pm PT
Man, what sad news.

Ouch was one of the reasons that I started hanging out on this forum. I always hoped to be the butt of one of his comics, but never made it. Oh well, he certainly brightened my day more than once.

He will be sorely missed.

My deepest condolences.

Phil
Lambone

Ice climber
Ashland, Or
Oct 25, 2008 - 06:02pm PT
I'm gunna miss Ouch! Allways good for a laugh. RIP bro.
Klimmer

Mountain climber
San Diego
Oct 25, 2008 - 06:26pm PT
I am so sorry to hear that OUCH! has left us and has left Earth. My sympathy and regards to his family.

OUCH! had the best humor. He could say so much in one of his animated illustrations.

I know I sometimes bring up the most contraversial topics at times on the Super Taco, I guess that is just me. Why talk about the weather when you can talk about things that deeply matter and get people to really think and discuss? The ST is truly one of the best climber campfires to come to and just hang-out and talk.

I recall starting and talking about aliens on one particular ST thread sometime ago, and OUCH! made a great illustration with climbing aliens. I laughed soooo hard tears were coming to my eyes.

I will have to find that thread and post a link here.
Here is one, I know there is another:
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=473260&msg=473571#msg473571


OUCH! you will truly be missed. God's speed. I'm sure you have God and all the angels laughing by now.

Klimmer
Glenn Simpson
michaellane

climber
Spokane, WA
Oct 25, 2008 - 07:24pm PT
Truly, deeply sad news.

He was, obviously, much-loved and appreciated on this forum.

He so often was able to reboot a thread just before it got terribly ugly and, I think, helped keep people from saying things they might eventually regret. That reveals insight, smarts and gentle wisdom.

I enjoyed reading his bio, Allie ... it fills in the blanks and makes me able to even more appreciate his great art.

--ML

johnboy

Trad climber
Can't get here from there
Oct 25, 2008 - 09:27pm PT
I would like to offer my deepest heartfelt condolences to all of the friends and family of Ouch's.

Very rarely does a person such as Ouch come along, and my world is better having meet part of his.

RIP
divad

Trad climber
wmass
Oct 25, 2008 - 09:47pm PT
The flag flies at half-mast over the Tacoland.
Dwain

Trad climber
Apple Valley, California
Oct 25, 2008 - 09:56pm PT
It was a real HONOR to be OUCHIFIED by Ouch!!!!
It made you feel like you were really a part of SuperTopo.
I will MISS the Great artist, and person Immensely!!!!


Dwain/Cosmiccragsman
salad

climber
Escondido
Oct 25, 2008 - 10:21pm PT
This is terribly sad news.

Peace to you and your family, Allie. I only hope I can touch my daughter’s life as much as your dad did yours.
Lightgirl

climber
Mendocino, Ca
Oct 25, 2008 - 11:00pm PT
This is very sad news. Though I am new here, I've greatly enjoyed OUCH!'s humor.

Allie, I recently lost my dad as well. Besides losing my best friend, I felt like a library full of one of a kind books had just burned down. I am so sorry for your loss. My dad didn't want a memorial either but my family felt like we needed to for our own sakes. This morning I happened to grab the book which I had read from and the pages were still book marked. I don't know if this helps at all, but it helped me at the time. Thank you for sharing with us!

"When you are sorrowful look again in your heart, and you shall see that in truth you are weeping for that which has been your delight...
If you would indeed behold the spirit of death, open your heart wide unto the body of life. For life and death are one, even as the river and sea are one...For what is it to die but to stand naked in the wind and to melt into the sun? And what is it to cease breathing, but to free the breath from its restless tides, that it may rise and expand and seek God unencumbered? Only when you drink from the river of silence shall you indeed sing. And when you have reached the mountain top, then you shall begin to climb. And when the earth shall claim your limbs, then shall you truly dance."
Kahlil Gibran
Dwain

Trad climber
Apple Valley, California
Oct 25, 2008 - 11:03pm PT
More CLASSICS from Ouch!!!
and, a couple of quotes after the animations.




MisterE: "Could there be a Ouch/Cos PS Pro smackdown contest shaping up?

I think so! lol!"







Dwain/Cosmic:"Won't happen, MisterE.
I'd LOSE to the MASTER!!!! "





And I meant every word of my quote Allie!
You are very Lucky to have a Father like him.



Dwain/Cosmiccragsman


Daphne

Trad climber
San Rafael, CA
Oct 25, 2008 - 11:10pm PT
What a legacy Ouch leaves: to be mourned across the country by a community demonstrates the presence he brought to this life. I offer prayers of comfort for all his family. And for Ouch, a prayer for a smooth send to the next dimension.
Scared Silly

Trad climber
UT
Oct 25, 2008 - 11:41pm PT
Well this is rather sad. Whenever there was a controversy Ouch was sure to have a comic to break up the monotony. The Tacostand will not be the same as will bear #46. May your toons enter the third dimension.
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Oct 25, 2008 - 11:48pm PT
The angels will be in stitches with his capricious humor but we mortals mourn his passing. Thanks for all that you brought to this forum, Ouch. We miss you bigtime brother....
Lynne Leichtfuss

Social climber
valley center, ca
Oct 25, 2008 - 11:55pm PT
Ditto lars j. Vaya Con Dios, Go with God, Dear Ouch Man ! LRL
OlympicMtnBoy

climber
Seattle
Oct 26, 2008 - 12:01am PT
Thank you Ouch! Rest in peace.
kuan

Sport climber
CA
Oct 26, 2008 - 01:38am PT
I will miss Ouch!'s magic ability to make someone feel loved and respected by making fun of them. His jokes were like glue that held us together.
JOEY.F

Social climber
sebastopol
Oct 26, 2008 - 01:53am PT


A little taco campfire time in memory of Ouch
Lynne Leichtfuss

Social climber
valley center, ca
Oct 26, 2008 - 02:01am PT
Really nice touch Joey !

Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Oct 26, 2008 - 02:17am PT
just got back from Yosemite Valley, left yesterday evening, climbing with Zander.

Sad news, that OUCH! has died. He had a wonderful sense of humor, and was the best of us all in making sure we didn't take ourselves, or this place too seriously. I am glad to hear that he was pleased to find us, we are also glad that he did as it certainly made the place unique.

He cannot be replaced here.

My thoughts go out to OUCH!'s family and friends, he must have been an incredible person to have known, and to have had as a father and husband.


climbrunride

Trad climber
Durango, CO
Oct 26, 2008 - 02:18am PT
Wow, I don't know what to say. My eyes are all teared up. This is so sad.

OUCH! was such an importent member of this e-family. He will be greatly missed. The TacoStand will be less without him. But we will each be more because of him.

Thanks you for everything, OUCH!
Fletcher

Trad climber
Lothlórien
Oct 26, 2008 - 02:19am PT
Gosh Allie,

I'm so very sorry to hear about you Dad's passing. It too came as a surprise to me because he always came across as very much alive, youthful, present and vibrant (though I knew he was on the older end of the SuperTaco age scale). That's a testament to the vitality of his spirit... our bodies eventually wear our, but our spirits really never age. Boy, was Ouch! a testament to that!

Thank you for sharing your wonderful memories of him. Especially the lesson that "stuff is just stuff." It is the immaterial things that provide the best and most lasting legacy and I can see how he really enjoyed sharing them with you, your family and us.

In addition to the gift of his humor, what an inspiration as a father he is. His example is something to aspire to.

Blessings and Peace to you and yours.

Eric O'Rafferty

P.S. This place just ain't gonna be the same without his cartoons. But I have a feeling his spirit is going to inspire someone in a similar vein someday!
JEM

Social climber
Oxnard, CA
Oct 26, 2008 - 10:35am PT
rhyang

climber
SJC
Oct 26, 2008 - 11:39am PT
Sad news, RIP sir. Always enjoyed his hilarious cartoons :)
Carolyn C

Trad climber
the long, long trailer
Oct 26, 2008 - 11:44am PT
Thanks for all the wonderful laughs and artwork, Ouch! I didn't know you, but I'll miss your humor and wise spirit on this forum.

My deepest sympathies, Allie and family, on your loss.
TYeary

Mountain climber
Calif.
Oct 26, 2008 - 11:46am PT
I am saddened at this news. He will be missed. I too enjoyed his cartoons and sence of humor. Just another reminder to tell the ones you care about, that you love them; now!
Peace to family and friends.
Tony
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Oct 26, 2008 - 01:09pm PT
I'm late to this thread because I was out taking joy from the sun and wind and mountains -- things your father loved too.

He'll sure be missed around here, and I join everyone else in offering my sympathy to you and the rest of his family.

David
nita

climber
chica from chico, I don't claim to be a daisy
Oct 26, 2008 - 01:28pm PT
I want to encourage the Lurkers of Taco land..post-up


It's a Beautiful gift to *Honor Ouch and his Family.*
survival

Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
Oct 26, 2008 - 02:58pm PT
Good call Nita.
Thanks Ouch!
Jaybro

Social climber
wuz real!
Oct 26, 2008 - 03:00pm PT
What they said, I've seen a lot of new and rare names here, keep up the good work!
Ouch!

climber
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 26, 2008 - 06:22pm PT


I hope this picture works that I am trying to put here. First one I am trying myself. : )

My dad has been doing these cartoons for a long time with all of us as on the receiving end! Thank you for expanding his audience of targets! haha! This is his back yard and my 2 daughters and his other grandaughter.

Weren't slip & slides great?

Thank you all. I see why he spent so much time with you...

Apologies for not posting more but I am trying to get all of the pictures from his computer and get them to Nature as he is going to get them on a website...

Dad obviously had political views that were very...strong...shall we say? hehe. I am going to miss his rantings during this election. He really only wanted the best for the hard working little guy. No matter anyone elses opionion or how fired up he would get it all came down to that. He was more part of the humanitarian party than any other really...he just wanted that one to always stay in existence.

Never known a man to care about other human beings as much as he did. Some say they do..but he went out of his way to act on it and never speak of it at all. Now that is a man...

...and that man was my dad.

Ok...so I lied a bit. I get on here and I see what you write and I sooo wish he could see it and then I start crying because I wish it so much. You were not just his friends...you were his best friends...because he had not physically left the house for several years other than going to the doctor a few times. You kept him feeling young and involved and cared for and you took him outside of the walls of this house every day. Thank you.

We are driving back to the Seattle area in a bit and I am forever grateful for this weekend spent with you. It has helped us all during this time and my mom is so pleased that his work will be on a website and he will be remembered by so many. I hope to be a frequent visitor at the campfire...

~Allie

Ouch!

climber
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 26, 2008 - 06:23pm PT
Ok...pic didn't work...trying that again.

Allie
Ouch!

climber
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 26, 2008 - 06:25pm PT

Trying again... ~Allie
Ricky D

Trad climber
Sierra Westside
Oct 26, 2008 - 06:44pm PT
I don't know about the rest of you - but Charming Dawn and I have been sad-sacking around all weekend since finding out about the passing of Ouch!.

What amazes both of us is the real feeling that we somehow have lost a friend - even though neither knew the man other than through his posts on SuperTopo.

Funny how a "virtual" world comprised of 1 and 0's can feel just as real as the analog world.

Community through the computer - who knew?
nature

climber
Santa Fe, NM
Oct 26, 2008 - 07:24pm PT
Allen was a Seahawk Fan all the way.

Seattle: 34
49ers: 13

Woohooo!!!!!111
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Oct 26, 2008 - 07:35pm PT
I'm gonna miss him!


When I told my wife she said'"I wondered why you hadn't called me in to see one of his cartoons in a while".

She'll miss him too.
I'm hurtin . . .

Ice climber
land of cheese and beer
Oct 26, 2008 - 08:37pm PT
Really sad news but obvious that OUCH! lived an excellent life, and he shared the best he had with all of us. I (WE) will miss him!
Sincerest condolences.
Dave Rone
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Oct 26, 2008 - 09:23pm PT
Allie wrote:
"You kept him feeling young and involved and cared for and you took him outside of the walls of this house every day."

I can tell you Allie, that he did the same for us in spades!
He took us "outside of the walls" of our seriousness with his ticklish ministrations.

Ouch! -your wonderful Dad, placed himself at the very core of our laughable little selves, helping us to giggle along in the midst of things real & unreal.

Thanks for sharing with us some nice details Allie: and for helping us to know a little more about a terrific man.

Best wishes for you,
Roy
happiegrrrl

Trad climber
New York, NY
Oct 26, 2008 - 09:28pm PT
Just got back from the weekend to see this thread. Of course, when I saw the title, I had an idea what it would be about.

Allie, thank you for letting us know of Ouch!'s passing and the other, wonderful things you also mentioned. I recall last year when he had mentioned, very vaguely, about not feeling well. he wasn't posting much and we buggered and pestered him until finally he came on and said he was still around. Of course we were all relieved, but we were also a little sad. Because we knew Ouch! was a man who'd had a lot of life, and we knew that some day it would end. As it does for us all. So, though I was not shocked to read in your post he had passed away, it is still sad, because I knew he had family whom he loved very much, and that you would miss him terribly.

Ouch! was a FANTASTIC human being and he gave so much to this forum. It makes me feel good to know that he got to extend his days "out there" by being here. He's far from the only one who used to do it all, and continues that life through reading and posting to this place. What a gift Supertopo is, and Allie's posts show that to be the truth.

I always looked forward to an Ouch! cartoon, and to know that they were his way of expressing humor to his family as well as here seems to make them all the more special. I rememeber the one he did that had me in it. I had just got back from climbing in JTree, and he made an animated one where Locker was leading a traverse on a JTree dome. I was following. The cartoon would show Locker making progress and then all of a sudden the rock "turned" into the head of a giant monster dinosaur! It opened it's mouth and swallowed Locker up! Afterward, when the cartoon started again, it was so obvious to see the monster in it, which before Ouch! had brought him to life, I hadn't noticed. Ouch! was creative and really knew what good-hearted humor was.

Of course I will miss him. As we all will. But Allie, you can be certain that Ouch! may be gone from this plane of existence, but he will live on forever in our hearts. He will be brought up often, as people recall something he wrote, or a funny cartoon he made, at various moments in the future.

I know your heart is hurting with the loss of your dad. I wish you comfort in this time of sorrow. What a great dad your father has been, and a great friend he has been here on Supertopo too.
SteveW

Trad climber
The state of confusion
Oct 26, 2008 - 09:37pm PT
Allie
I'm so sorry for your loss. Your father had a way to make everyone laugh at their folly. I don't know that there
are words enough to thank him for the joy he brought to the
taco.
My condolences to you, and to all of us at the taco that will
miss him so.
Buggs

Trad climber
Eagle River, Alaska
Oct 26, 2008 - 09:43pm PT
Allison et al,

Can't even put it in words. Funniest stuff on ST. Wanted to send him a picture of myself so he could superimpose a chicken head on it but never got around to it.

Peace to all who miss him.

Buggs - Air Force Survival Instructor Class 83-02
cleo

Social climber
Berkeley, CA
Oct 26, 2008 - 10:08pm PT
Ouch was a brilliant poster here... I'll miss him and his funny ways.
le_bruce

climber
Oakland: what's not to love?
Oct 26, 2008 - 10:38pm PT

Your pop was truly, truly a classic, and had a lovely way of seeing the world. He was also the proprietor of one hell of an interesting mind.

I'll never see a twinkie, a bear, or a ranger again without thinking of Ouch!

pud

climber
Sportbikeville
Oct 27, 2008 - 12:22am PT

OUCH!
Godspeed.
Thank you for the smiles. I owe you.
--wayne
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
Oct 27, 2008 - 02:21am PT
I was Ouched. I am and always will be honored to have had that privilege.
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Oct 27, 2008 - 02:50am PT
hey there jem... say, that was a sweet post-pic of the ol' bear missing out... that says it for all of us...

say, allie---i already posted-up here, but after seeing your wonderful slip and slide photo... say, you know:
that is a perfect pic of heaven---the critters will be at peace with mankind... and joy will be there...

say, we come to understand that ouch! trusted us, to share his cartoons here, as, he could have kept them ONLY for you all... we did not know that he did them for family, until now---as---some folks are turned away from their families when they share hobbies:

we have even more joy now, nowing that his family loved him and his work.. and that there was a whole rich life behind this man, who posted the "likes of which i had never seen before" and "did it in hilarious fun and in kindness as well (and---along with quirky guy-stuff for the men hear here!), oh my! :)


well, as i said---i had already posted my condolences and messagea to you and your mom... so this was just a shared-note..
dirtineye

Trad climber
the south
Oct 27, 2008 - 03:00am PT
Ouch! made us laugh. HE seemed like a genuinely good person too.

There's not a whole lot better that you can say about someone.

I'll miss his humor and presence.
the Fet

Knackered climber
A bivy sack in the secret campground
Oct 27, 2008 - 03:39am PT
wow. I'm so sorry. I always clicked on an Ouch! thread, always good for a laugh.

I doesn't suprise me to hear more about the real life Ouch, his caring and humor were easy to see on this forum.

He will be missed greatly.
Doug Robinson

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Oct 27, 2008 - 07:31am PT
I'm inspired here. Shocked, because he pulled the ultimate fast one on us, but smiling for that too. Gotta admire the Chesire-Cat-man stealthing up to whisk the rug out from under us -- and then quick as a wink sliding in a bouldering pad so you can hit the deck laughing at being skewered.

So pleased that someone noticed deftly enough to pull a direct-hit Gotcha!... so utterly taken out by gut-laughing -- not the cute acronym and not the winking punctuation-face, but the real real deal, way uncommon but pretty reliable when he showed up -- that maybe we can be excused for failing to notice that the trickster behind the curtain was not young and vigorous and impish as he came across.

Here's an extra-large peanut butter jar going to the El Cap celebration. Leaving it out in the meadow. Bear #46, wherever you are, drown your sorrows. You, of all people... tossing and turning and wandering the suddenly bleak Valley when you should be hibernating.
Jim E

climber
Oct 27, 2008 - 09:00am PT
This is indeed very sad news. I truly enjoyed his photo antics.
I regret as well as am relieved to have never been the target of his humor.
Good bye OUCH!
My condolences to his family and friends.
artmusicsouth

climber
VA
Oct 27, 2008 - 09:52am PT
I am sorry to hear of your loss. I am essentially a lurker around here (though I do pipe in every now and then) but OUCH's cartoons were the best. I am one of the types who has dreamed of making it to the Valley but just haven't done so yet. His cartoons brought me there with a great sense of humor w/ old #46.

All the best to you and your family as you grieve for your loss but delight in a life well-lived.

May God bless and comfort you all during this time.

Mark
imnotclever

climber
Oct 27, 2008 - 10:15am PT
This is sad. I loved his drawings.
GOclimb

Trad climber
Boston, MA
Oct 27, 2008 - 11:09am PT
Very sad news.

But thank you for sharing a little about him, Allie. Through your stories, your dad is an inspiration to me. And I'm sure I'm not alone.

Gabe
Beatrix Kiddo

Mountain climber
Littleton
Oct 27, 2008 - 11:24am PT
I never met ouch but I sure did know of him! My internet network at the office has this web filtering software that prohibits me from seeing most of his photos at work. I'd E-mail myself links to my house of some of his funny photos so I could see them later. He made me laugh so hard and even inspired me to mess around with some photo shopping of my own. I will really miss his posts.He contributed so much to this site. He'd post a thread and I'd have to open them. My condolenences to all of you who knew this really neat man. I'm going to miss him around here. This is very sad news. :-(
Anastasia

climber
Not there
Oct 27, 2008 - 11:24am PT
Allie,
Your father had a great impact in my life. When he first Ouched me I was going through a difficult part of my life. His drawing was the first laugh I had in a long time... "It meant everything to me."
Sincerely,
Anastasia Frangos
Gene

climber
Oct 27, 2008 - 11:28am PT
A couple of thoughts:

“Ouch,” the word, is used to indicate sudden pain. And that’s how we all feel with his passing. Ouch!, the man, was the antithesis of pain – he was the personification of playful joy.

I feel our Tribe has lost something akin to our Medicine Man – an honored and respected Chief whose potions of silly humor and laser insight chased away evil. Through Ouch!, bad omens were scattered and replaced by rainbows.

GM
Roger Breedlove

climber
Cleveland Heights, Ohio
Oct 27, 2008 - 11:58am PT
Hi Allie,

My heartfelt condolences to you and your Mom.

We will miss your Dad, as you can see from all the responses. Thank you for telling us more about "Sam" and his life.

Roger Breedlove
TKingsbury

Trad climber
MT
Oct 27, 2008 - 12:00pm PT
My condolences, he indeed was a unique and special person

Since I'm living in Montana, I always enjoying reading about his thoughts and experiences in the area.
Karen

Trad climber
So Cal Hell
Oct 27, 2008 - 12:09pm PT
I just got back from an extended trip without email and cell reception and was shocked and saddened to read of Ouch's passing. I too second all of the comments made by other in Taco land. He always made me laugh, my favorite photo of his was of Woody's crotch shot!!!!


Bless you and your family during this time of sorrow, he will be missed by all of us.
Nefarius

Big Wall climber
somewhere without avatars.........
Oct 27, 2008 - 12:12pm PT
Terrible, terrible news. :( He brightened up the taco the whole time he was here, and will continue to do so in our memories. Really sorry for your loss. Just plain bummed after reading this - the best cure is probably to pull up some ouch artwork and remember all the laughter we all shared with him over the years. .

Chaz

Trad climber
So. Cal.
Oct 27, 2008 - 12:48pm PT
Allie,

Thanks a ton for the stories about your Dad. I always knew he was a great guy, but I had no idea.

I just saw this thread because I spent the weekend in Joshua Tree, taking (or attempting to take) pictures. Maybe, if I was lucky, I would bring home one I could post on here for your Dad to screw with.

Every single photo I posted here, I wanted Ouch! to screw with. And he never disappointed me, starting with the very first pic I put here. He actually made me look good by putting donkey ears on my head.

He seemed to really like using my dopey animals in his work, especially my donkey, Molly. That's Molly standing in the plastic pool in the cartoon you put on here yesterday.

Your Dad made me smile and laugh on practically a daily basis for the last three years I've been checking this site, even during a time or two when I had a hard time finding things to smile about. For that, I'm eternally grateful.

Allie, your Dad, and you too, have a legion af friends you have never met who are grieving over your loss right now.
Tahoe climber

Trad climber
a dark-green forester out west
Oct 27, 2008 - 01:28pm PT
Gosh, I'm so sorry for your loss.

There are people that get it and people that don't.
Ouch! got it.
And shared it.

RIP

Aaron Kutzer
darod

Big Wall climber
South Side Billburg
Oct 27, 2008 - 01:37pm PT
Truly sad news. I great loss for the Taco.
Ouch will be missed dearly.
seamus mcshane

climber
Oct 27, 2008 - 03:33pm PT
I was brimming with pride when my son was born.
I was afraid I was being too giddy with pride.
I announced to the Supertopo folks when your Dad (RIP) responded in kind.

It is not pride, it is simply LOVE.


http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=97715&msg=97715#msg97715

That has always stuck with me in regards to him. Love is THE most important thing we ever have.

His loss is immeasurable.

Peace be with you always... and rest assured he is in a better place than this!!!

RIP Allen. sm
roslyn

Trad climber
washington
Oct 27, 2008 - 05:16pm PT
such sad news

my condolences to friends and family

i will miss ouch's supertopo contributions

he was one in a million
Gene

climber
Oct 27, 2008 - 07:54pm PT
Bump for the Best.
charley

Trad climber
nw pa.
Oct 27, 2008 - 08:19pm PT
Truly sad news. My condolences to the family and friends.
I have enjoyed ouch's pictures and humor. He will be truly missed here.
Zander

Trad climber
Berkeley
Oct 27, 2008 - 09:32pm PT
Allie,
I wish you and yours all the best. Thanks for filling us in on things we didn't know about your dad.
I was sitting in here yesterday showing my wife, Wendy, your dads "work" and we were laughing. Wendy had been wondering why I was sad.
Maybe someone can remind me what he called his "work" one time. Maybe "my little silly scribbles". Something like that. A humble man.
His cartoons were inspired, hilarious and silly, sometimes gross but there was gentleness there, and wisdom. We need all that.

Goodbye bro,
Zander
malabarista

Trad climber
San Francisco, Ca
Oct 27, 2008 - 09:58pm PT
RIP Ouch, I loved the Bear 46 cartoons! Damn, I took it for granted he'd always be around. So sorry to hear of his passing. Thanks to everyone who posted stories about him and links to his cartoons.
Ouch!

climber
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 27, 2008 - 10:44pm PT
From the daughter of OUCH!,

My Dad....

"It ain't pride. Just Love. What you have is all the reason for your life. Cool!

Take some advice from an old fool who learned the hard way.
When you look at those precious gifts and find reason to criticize, back off and search hard for reasons to encourage."



You got me on that one SM. I held it together on my first day back to work until that one...and I thank you for it!
It is so perfectly...him. I can picture him thinking it and hoping that you will always do exactly that with your son. I think as a parent of 16 and 17 year old girls myself that it is the best advice you will ever receive in regards to parenting. He felt he was too hard on us when we were younger. He wasn't. Not even close.

I closed my office door and am working and reading these postings and silently crying because there is a hole so big in my heart that I feel like it will never be whole again. Then I think of the life he led and that he had 72 years that were filled with so much happiness and find myself smiled again. : )

Thanks again...I will be posting more pics this week and things I think of, if it is indeed welcome because I like doing it and I don't know what else to do...


~Allie


up2top

Big Wall climber
Phoenix, AZ
Oct 28, 2008 - 12:50am PT
We are honored to have crossed paths with him. My condolences to you, Allie, and his friends and family. He brought unique wit and character to this site and it is a lesser place without him.

Ed
up2top

Big Wall climber
Phoenix, AZ
Oct 28, 2008 - 12:53am PT
And, Allie -- absolutely keep posting. Photos, stories, your insights and feelings. I think we're all enjoy this as kind of a long-form and open eulogy. It's something that helps us, too.

Ed
Lynne Leichtfuss

Social climber
valley center, ca
Oct 28, 2008 - 01:00am PT
Allie, please post the more pics! My husband died at 6o just 10 months ago and the comments and caring and pictures from all the folk here have made ALL the difference in the world to me.

Plus, it is archived so you can go back on a lonely eve and look at the pictures and read the comments and feel the Joy and Peace and Warmth of Love from People that cared.

You have been and will continue to be in my heart and mind and prayers, Lynnie
Anastasia

climber
Not there
Oct 28, 2008 - 01:01am PT
Allie,
You are one of us now. Stay with us and post whenever you feel like it about any subject you feel like expressing... We are a forum of climbers... This means that even though we do talk a whole lot more about climbing than anything else on this site, we also talk about other things...
Just ask Lynne how that works. She came to us after the loss of her husband and... Well, it didn't take long for her to start climbing too. (Not bad for a woman who is also a grandmother, business owner, etc.!)
Sending all my best,
Anastasia


healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Oct 28, 2008 - 01:05am PT
Allie,

Just discovered this thread and wanted to thank you for letting us know the news. As Anastasia just said, please keep posting and become part of the community. We'd love to hear any stories you might care to share about your Dad (and Mom)...

Joseph
Lynne Leichtfuss

Social climber
valley center, ca
Oct 28, 2008 - 01:07am PT
Yo, Pepper, how are you ? Haven't talked for awhile. Life is crazy for all of us. Good words from you for the Daughter of Ouch. Lynne


I am climbing and lovin' it ! Crazy Huh?
Ouch!

climber
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 28, 2008 - 05:21am PT

If this picture shows...I am curious if anyone knows if my dad posted it or if someone sent it to him? If so...what was the context in how it was used? If it didn't show disregard and I will try again tomorrow. Thanks so much...

~Allie
dogtown

climber
Where I once was,I think?
Oct 28, 2008 - 06:02am PT
Allie,

Truly sorry for your loss.

I'll pipe up with the rest and say stick around with us.

It's a good bunch here.

Welcome.

Dog
Maysho

climber
Truckee, CA
Oct 28, 2008 - 10:01am PT
Heartfelt condolences to the family and friends of Ouch.

A big loss to our online campfire, a funny and wise soul who brought a lot of joy to this place.

Thanks for sharing some of the details of his life here Allie, it is nice to know that his forays here were a joy to him while homebound even as he made us all laugh so much.

Peter
Double D

climber
Oct 28, 2008 - 10:33am PT
Allie,

Again my heartfelt condolances go out to you and your family. I really wanted to thank you for taking the time to intimately share about your dad...obviously a great man and an outstanding example of love passed on to all who knew him. Each of us can only hope to have a fraction of the impact on others as he has been through his kind acts, humerous cartoons and thoughtful words of wisdom. I wish I had had the pleasure of meeting him in person.
Jobee

Social climber
El Portal
Oct 28, 2008 - 11:18am PT
Allie,

Your dad had soul, he touched us all in one way or another.
I am very sorry for your loss, many loving healing thoughts coming your way from Yosemite.
-you must come here when the time is ripe.

I have laughed so hard viewing some of OUCH's images that I have cried out-loud! He was very kind and never cruel...a gift in itself.

Werner's post says it all.
Guys like OUCH go straight up to Heaven.

Thank you for sharing him with us.

Jo


Bart Fay

Social climber
Redlands, CA
Oct 28, 2008 - 12:07pm PT
Seventy Two ? SEVENTY TWO !
I always figured he was some talented college kid with too much time on his hands and strong
photochop skills.
I honestly thought all those old Yos & USAF photos were of OUCH!'s dad. Seriously.
Ottawa Doug

Social climber
Ottawa, Canada
Oct 28, 2008 - 01:13pm PT
Dear Allie,

I never communicated directly with your dad, but he put a huge smile on my face many times when I would sign on, find a thread with another one of his outrageous photoshopped captioned thingy's in the forum. A huge loss to say the least. My condolences.

Cheers,

Doug
SteveW

Trad climber
The state of confusion
Oct 28, 2008 - 01:54pm PT
bump for Ouch! and Allie
eeyonkee

Trad climber
Golden, CO
Oct 28, 2008 - 02:17pm PT
Count me in as an Ouch fan. He'll be missed here.
L

climber
Just surfin' the tsunami of life
Oct 28, 2008 - 03:47pm PT
Oh My Gosh...this is so sad. Nita just let me know that Ouch! had passed on...I still cannot believe it.

Allie, your dad was a creative genius of the first order. Where wit and visual humor were concerned, he will never have a match here on the Taco. Ever.

And it was obvious to one and all that he had a heart as big as his talent...which is to say, gigantuous. How fortunate you were to have a father like that...and to have him in your life for so many decades. 72? No way. Ouch! was 17 going on 1000. He had that eternal humor thing that made him ageless.

I sympathize with you and your family for your loss...but mostly I celebrate with you and your family for having such an awesome and amazing fellow in your lives.


Peace to you,

Laura
Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Oct 28, 2008 - 03:57pm PT
Very well put, Laura. Although I gave Ouch a lot of shít, he took it all in good humor
(as it was intended). There will never be another like him. But his works shall live on forever!


dougs510

Social climber
down south
Oct 28, 2008 - 04:05pm PT
Man... this news just makes me sad. I'm not sure what we all share, but it is obviously very unique and powerful. Though I didn't know Ouch personally, I feel a very personal loss. RIP my brother.
scuffy b

climber
On the dock in the dark
Oct 28, 2008 - 06:53pm PT
Oh. This is such sad news.
I feel fortunate to have been hanging around here,
and being exposed to this so-genuine guy. Any of
his small allusions to the then-and-there e.g.
Reno, Tennessee, the 50s, I felt like I knew just
what he was describing. It was like getting the
cryptic Uncle to open up a bit.

Thanks Ouch.
Happy Trails, Allie.
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Oct 28, 2008 - 11:26pm PT
hey there allie... say, i just stopped by again.. say, it would be nice if you still dropped in from timem to time... there is a reason why all these folks have been drawn together, you know.. .

and in a sense, you are now, through your dear-dad, drawn here, too...

god bless and i sincerely hope your mom is doing well... remember to give her many hugs, as, sometimes with mom's, they can keep much "silent" from the kids, as it the habit, to be strong...

much love to you... and much strenght your way, as you seek to honor your dad and his work, not many kids theses days even know what honor is----you are very special, dear gal...
son of ouch

Social climber
Redmond, WA
Oct 29, 2008 - 12:26am PT
Hello to the members of the forum.I've been watching the conversation between all of you, including my sister, following the passing of our father, the man you all know and love as Ouch. I'm his youngest son, Andrew, and I thank you all from the bottom of my heart. My sister has very eloquently shared stories of Dad, and the outpouring of affection that has followed has been wonderful.One thread here made mention of his fondness for the inimitable lyrics of Jim Croce...Jim has been gone for 35 years, and Dad reminisced with a smile every time he heard one of his songs. He loved music....some years ago, my brother Scott and I took him to a Crosby,Stills and Nash concert in Spokane, and the next day, a local newspaper music critic referred to those in attendance as '4500 aging hippies'.....Dad grinned like a possum eating a sweet potato at the thought of a Tennessee country boy being described that way......
Jaybro

Social climber
wuz real!
Oct 29, 2008 - 12:38am PT
Welcome aboard . I'd mention that your Dad rocked, but you already knew that better than any of us.










My bros and I took my mom to one of the last Grateful Dead Concerts, shew was 70.
- after that we couldn't pretend that she didn't know what pot smelled like
nature

climber
Santa Fe, NM
Oct 29, 2008 - 12:39am PT
That's a neat story, Andrew. Thanks for sharing!!!
Mighty Hiker

Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Oct 29, 2008 - 12:39am PT
We're honoured to have you visit, and tell us a bit about your father. Please feel free to come by at any time, especially if it helps you with your loss.

Ouch! made a great contribution to SuperTopo, and will be sorely missed. We all wondered how he found his way to our zany little world, although not all here are climbers, but are glad that he enjoyed visiting and adding to it. Do you know how he came to be here? It looks like he may have had a good trip to Yosemite when he was younger, and perhaps that had something to do with it.

As you may have gathered, SuperTopo is something of a real community. Some people here have known each other since before the internet was invented, and many of us get together for various events such as the SushiFests, the Yosemite FaceLift, and so on. There is talk of a get together in Seattle sometime in the next few months, as 20 - 30 of us live in that general area. You and your sister and families would be very welcome to attend.
Chaz

Trad climber
So. Cal.
Oct 29, 2008 - 12:40am PT
I seem to remember Ouch! saying he liked The Moody Blues, too.
nature

climber
Santa Fe, NM
Oct 29, 2008 - 12:44am PT
I'd consider a trip to Seattle/Tacoma if the timing is right. It's been a little to long since I visited my dad in Tacoma (where I was born and raised)
Mighty Hiker

Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Oct 29, 2008 - 12:46am PT
Information about the hoped-for "SuperTopo in Seattle" is on Wayne's thread, at http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=705376
Gary

climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Oct 29, 2008 - 01:27am PT
Allie, you are a very lucky woman to have had such a father. Ouch! was a genuine soul. I had the same hillbilly upbringing and really appreciated his outlook on life.

He had a great run. As others have said here, he just got it right.

RIP Ouch!
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Oct 29, 2008 - 01:37am PT
hey there son of ouch!, andrew.. wow, thanks for shareing here... and YEP, we all know how well a possom munching on an ol' sweetpotatoe feels... :)
Omot

Trad climber
The here and now
Oct 29, 2008 - 02:32am PT
Oh no, say it isn't so. This is very sad. My condolences to Ouch's family. He was the best, and will be missed.

Tomo
Ouch!

climber
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 29, 2008 - 03:39am PT
From Allie,

Hi Andy! I was hoping I would see you here...

Should we tell them how much he liked Anne Murray? haha! It's true!

I was thinking today that I always thought it was weird that I was named after him being the only girl and the youngest...I loved having the similar names when I got older. He was Allen Gayle and I am Allison Gail. Kind of cool. I think I want to go back to the maiden name again now... I always thought if I hadn't remarried by the time my girls went to college I would make up my own last name because both of mine are really hard to pronounce.

When I was young we had chokecherry trees in our back yard. Dad took a switch off of one of them and whittled it down and swooshed it through the air and put it on top of the fridge...while I watched. When he wasn't around I would get up there and take it and get rid of it. When he noticed it was gone...he would have me go to that tree and get another one and put it back on the fridge again. Sounds bad in this day and age but the best part is that....that switched never touched me. I cannot even remember how it got started that he put it there in the first place but it had become a game. A year did not pass when I grew older that at some point he would say..."you better be careful or I'm going to make you go get a switch." Last time he said it was last Christmas. I was 43. He didn't have a mean bone in his body.

Want to hear something totally bizarre? Sure you do! Ok...so everyone in our family can touch their elbows behind their back. haha! You think that sounds like no big deal? Try it....

All of us can. We got it from dad. hehe. His kids and all of his grandkids. Andys son is a bit young still to know if he got "the gift" : ) haha but I guarantee he will be able to...How did we all figure out we had said gift? I have no idea...then again how did my dad come to make pictures that entertained many with a combination of your awesome photos and wildlife, aliens, twinkies, cartoon cops, sharks, and countless other unexpected figures? Sometimes it is better not knowing how things came to be but simply relishing in the fact that they did.

Andy...since you never answer your cell phone...hehe...call me before you head over to mom & pop's this weekend. I want you to take mom to Target whether she wants to go or not. She loves Target and has not been out of the house for more than 45 minutes at a time in the last year. She will enjoy it...trust me. She needs to get out and not feel guilty about it so come up with a reason that she will believe on why you want to go there.

I'll be seeing some of you in Seattle I am quite certain : )

Goodnight and thank you...

~Allie
Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Oct 29, 2008 - 03:47am PT
Awesome posts, Andy and Allie! I just tried to touch my elbows together, but alas, I can knott.

At this point, I'm thinking some photographic proof is in order...

Oh, by the way, I got a good laugh when I saw the user-name Son of Ouch...

-or as Ouch was very recently wont to declare:

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!1111
Ouch!

climber
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 29, 2008 - 04:25am PT
From Allie,

Aha! I sense a good challenge coming on...and from that I will not turn my back. : )

You will receive such photographic evidence in the coming days...as I sense a bit of skeptism regarding our genetic gift? haha!

~Allie
nature

climber
Santa Fe, NM
Oct 29, 2008 - 09:04am PT
touching your elbows together? That's easy!

How about putting your foot behind your head?

:-P
SteveW

Trad climber
The state of confusion
Oct 29, 2008 - 10:01am PT
Allie Gail and Andrew
Thanks so much for your comments.
Please join us at the Taco as often as you can.
Your remembrances of your father are wonderful.
He really was an amazing man, and we only saw part
of his genius.
Thank you so much!
Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Oct 29, 2008 - 12:12pm PT
Nature - I put my foot in my mouth fairly often.

Does that count?
Ouch!

climber
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 30, 2008 - 02:45am PT
From Allie,

(Ok...so my daughter says that putting these symbols in makes it italic on myspace....haha..hope it works here!)

Nature..

touching your elbows together? That's easy!

How about putting your foot behind your head?

:-P

Even easier... :)

So...

I wanted to share something with you that you probably don't know about OUCH! He was an amazing freehand cartoonist his whole adult life. Truly a natural. When we were young he painted. Built his own eisel and spent hours painting. I don't know where they went. He never did anything for the praise or credit. He probably threw them away when we moved. I am hoping to find a few in mom's basement. He also carved wooden birds...ducks...seagulls..geese...cranes, etc. We all have the ones he made in our homes. His very first one was a duck that he turned into a lamp and I have always loved it. Now I love it even more. He had to stop because he could no longer be around the wood dust that it produced. He continued to draw by hand until he could no longer do that because his hands shook so bad as his illness progressed. He went to the computer and continued to find ways to express himself through his art and it is evident to me in the pictures he was doing in the earlier years that the simplicity increased in the last year due to his hands shaking uncontrollably. Still he kept creating them. Every crooked line or slightly misplaced face makes me smile...because I know the heart it took for him to make it when so many others would have sat down in a chair and let their mind head in the same direction that their body was going. He is the ultimate prime example of how easy it would be to make the mistake of judging someone without enough information to accurately do so....I think of that every day now.

I have read many threads my dad was on here and I admit a few of them made me really angry...until I asked myself who I thought I was kidding? My dad relished in it and trust me when I say that he was so secure with who he was that there is nothing that anyone on this planet could have ever said to him that would have changed that. The cartoons he produced for all of you are evidence of someone who valued the right to ones personal expression and enjoyed a bit of good old fashioned mud slinging with those that could take it as well as give it out along the way! If someone was not getting "it" he seemed to take the high road after sometimes pointing it out to them...often in ways they probably did not even recognize. What he didn't like to do was hurt anyones feelings and when he did, it appears he put in the effort to make it right. Laying down at night not feeling better or somehow powerful due to efforts to make someone else feel badly ...now that is the lesson to be learned...and he was a great teacher of such lessons. Don't get me wrong...I cannot say that he never crossed any lines! I'm sure he,like all of us, had his moments. The one thing I have seen here several times is that when they first crossed paths with my dad on ST, before they got to know him...that is when they felt slighted...or downright hostile! It takes time to get to the bottom of someones soul and see who they really are. We all need to take a bit more time to delve deeper before casting judgement and if after we do...the person is still an ass...then we have the choice to walk away or continue to fight that losing battle. We all know when we are in one...it is what we take away from it that matters I would think.

There is nothing worse than a bully...they learned what they saw when they were young I would guess and they took it to school with them and out onto the playground and they grew up and moved it into the boardroom or into their own family home or to chatrooms or wherever they could find someone that would keep giving them the fix they need. Amazing thing is they don't really ever make many valid points. They only want to win whatever battle it is they are fighting in their own head that they have yet to figure out. Intelligent debate with open-minded people is an awesome thing. this forum is full of them...

Bullies suck. As hard as it is for me to grasp sometimes I truly feel like they need empathy more than anything else because walking around angry all of the time must be exhausting and has to fill them with continual sadness. Typically cannot change them so the one thing I will not do is to walk along side them down that same path...

Sorry. Major rant. I am way behind at work and there is a "bully" that will not cut me a break and is just begging me to snap! I will never give him that satisfaction... : )

~Allie

survival

Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
Oct 30, 2008 - 03:00am PT
Allie is definitely "warming up" to the campfire eh?
Ha ha...that's great.
Wayno

Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
Oct 30, 2008 - 03:58am PT
Heck of yeah, I love it when a stranger makes me cry. Welcome on in.
nature

climber
Santa Fe, NM
Oct 30, 2008 - 06:53am PT
Allie... well.. i guess then touching the bottom of your foot to the top of your head is easy too?

more neat stories... thanks!
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Oct 30, 2008 - 07:00am PT
hey there allie... that was such a deep and sweet, yet strong letter... you are a precious jewel to your dad, dear gal...

say, i have a gift for you... email me... and god bless...
hit the names here, and you find the emails...

but remember to mention supertopo, so i will know where the email is from...
Crimpergirl

Social climber
Boulder, Colorado!
Oct 30, 2008 - 05:14pm PT
I've been on the road for over a week with no internet/taco access. So now I'm sitting in a library in Tombstone Arizona weeping as the man next to be keeps glancing worridly at me.

There aren't words really. I loved Ouch. I was honored to be in his cartoons. I loved emailing with him. I started to believe he could never die.

Callie
mynameismud

climber
backseat
Oct 31, 2008 - 01:09am PT
Dang, Bummers. I lurk only on occasion lately but OUCH is one of the few characters here I can actually rememeber. Will miss his humor.

God Bless
Gary

climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Oct 31, 2008 - 01:39am PT
Poor Crimpie, we understand...

That's why folks keep bumping him to the front page.
Ouch!

climber
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 31, 2008 - 05:09am PT
From Allie,


My dad loved toads... : )

He called me Peaches or Peach from before I was even born. He sent it to me and just had "PeachToad" in the subject line...hehe. I don't know if he posted it here for something as well but it totally cracked me up.

I am trying to get through this week without the string that I am hanging on by breaking...you guys help keep me together right now. I believe the state I am in would be categorized as complete denial. I guess if I recognize it that somehow makes it ok. Thanksgiving and Christmas without him seems unimaginable. I am too tired to come up with anything positive to say to try and make myself feel better...not a good sign. :( I think I am down right grouchy...

He bought like a case of these plastic green frogs that the arms and legs could be twisted up into poses...that he would give my kids and then he would buy them back from them. hehe. Went on for many years. A few months back we were at his house and my daughters had a bunch of them that he had given them in the past...They ambushed him and tried to sell them all to him at once and he agreed on a payment plan. haha! He sent them 2 payments in the mail after the initial down payment. They thought it was so kewl...as he would have said... :) He loved spoiling his grandkids more than anything in the world...

Ok...I take that back...I feel a little better.... : )



neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Oct 31, 2008 - 05:20am PT
hey there allie... say, that toad just made my day... or morning, rather... :)

what the "heck" i say kindly, did i stay up THIS late for...?
oh, my, as i cruise back here to supertopo, i learn WHY:

that's why:

IT WAS FOR THE TOAD! just to see you POST that ol' toad and story...

now i feel better, too, and i just need to justify staying up---nothing as serious as your sad loss...

god bless to you, dear allie...


*check your email when you can...
CAMNOTCLIMB

Trad climber
novato ca
Oct 31, 2008 - 10:34am PT
he will be missed

Brian
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
Nov 1, 2008 - 01:20am PT
Allie, your dad was a greatly loved man. I'm sure you know that.

C-mac, thanks for including this in the ST newsletter, your pretty cool too.
Jaybro

Social climber
wuz real!
Nov 1, 2008 - 01:23am PT
First Headline, even!
mother nature

climber
flowery branch ga
Nov 1, 2008 - 09:58pm PT
Allie,

My deepest sympathies to you and your family. Although I did not meet your dad, I always left the ST forum’s with a smile after seeing one of his cartoon’s of some of the character’s I have met over the past few years.

His humor and creativity will surely be missed.

MotherNature
Ouch!

climber
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 2, 2008 - 01:55am PT
Toads are good...








apologies if any dupes on the pictures...Laptop is acting funny and I don't want it to spaz out before posting...


This is to be the final post from me under Ouch!s name.

I think it is time for me to create my own account. I greatly enjoy seeing the past topics that he was on, that some of you have posted. Somehow I just get a very warm feeling everytime I see his name on ST and will continue to read his posts that go back for the past years in which he was a member of the ST family. Due to the memories you share I believe he will remain a member of the ST family for some time to come... and that is a wonderful thing.

I want to once again, thank you all for the support you have given me and my family and the nice things you have said about my dad. World class compliments from world class people about a world class man. Sweet. I want to apologize for not individually contacting each of you with our gratitude. The shear volume of emails and posts here with the sentiment has made it difficult for me to properly reply. There are times that I feel strong enough to visit ST and there are still days that I do not.

I want to take this opportunity to give a big ST "group hug" so to speak...and I will be visiting ST ...and hopefully meeting Wayne and crew in Seattle...and look forward to seeing the works of my Dad Ouch! that Nature is heading up, on the memorial website. This could take a long time so please don't take it easy on Nature. I still have more pictures to get to him. hehe...Ok...this could take a VERY long time... : ) I think the ideas of something in YellerPines or the dedication of a display case holding artifacts would please him in a great way..but with the logistics involved could be difficult, so rest assured the thoughts are much appreciated but it is not necessary. Thanks Chris for the awesome support you are giving on ST, as it is a climbing site after all. My family will be forever grateful for the efforts that are going out by you all!

I don't know what else to say...other than sorry dad.. but I have to do this. It's killing me but I have to...It just hasn't felt right since after the very first post I made...

Ouch! is all you....


~Allie


nita

climber
chica from chico, I don't claim to be a daisy
Nov 2, 2008 - 01:02am PT
Allie, thanks for adding more pictures..they are great!

keep them coming.;-)..Love the- Ma & me at Squaw Valley!

ps. It is sweet to be able to look back and seeing your dads thoughts and words and fun~Fun art. It is priceless.
nita..
MisterE

Trad climber
My Inner Nut
Nov 2, 2008 - 01:05am PT
Glad you are creating your own user name, Allie.

A lot of friendly supportive people in the ranks here! Welcome!
Mighty Hiker

Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Nov 2, 2008 - 01:07am PT
Allie, there are wizards here who can take this entire thread, or parts of it, and transplant it into the body of another thread. Sort of like posting a photo. Alternatively, if you start another thread in your own pen name, post the link to this thread right at the start. It makes it simple for people to look back. We had one series of threads (the Stonemasters) that went for ten or more, each made up of 100 or so posts, including stories and photos. All inter-linked.
Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
Nov 2, 2008 - 01:10am PT
Hug back at cha Allie. It's wonderful what you've done with us and we look forward to having you on your own account.

As you see, we're one dysfunctional family here and Ouch was a beloved memeber. I seriously doubt he would have disapproved of anything you shared here.

Cheers and best wishes to ouch! and Allie!

PEace

karl
Wayno

Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
Nov 2, 2008 - 03:12am PT
Shite Allie, your making me cry again. Those old pics of your father and mother... My dad was in the Air Force too, during Korea. I've got pictures just like that, different places and different people, but the the same era and two young people in love. I'm feeling your pain; I've lost both parents and a brother and haven't made it to fifty yet. I'm looking forward to meeting you soon at my proposed get together, or just come on in to Angelo's, it's just down the way from Kirkland. Anyway, I'm sure I'll find you here. Don't worry too much, all the pain will receed and you will be left with pleasant memories that come like waves at ever increasing intervals. And then down the road you will read someone else's story and it will all come flooding back and you will welcome it.
mack

Trad climber
POKE-O-MOONSHINE
Nov 2, 2008 - 12:59pm PT
Allie,
I haven't been hanging out here too much recently and just spotted this thread today. Very sad to hear about Ouch. It was always fun to see his creative contributions. Those early photos are really grand. Thank you very much for posting. My sincere condolences to you and your Mom and the rest of the family. He left a huge hole here at SuperTaco, I can only imagine how much you miss him.
Peace and Love,
Leslie
SteveW

Trad climber
The state of confusion
Nov 2, 2008 - 01:32pm PT
Allie
Thank you so much for sharing with us. I wish I knew the words that might comfort you in this time. Just know that all of us here at the taco loved your father dearly, and having a link to him with you is so special for us.
Be well.
Love
SteveW
SteveW

Trad climber
The state of confusion
Nov 2, 2008 - 10:12pm PT
Bump
murcy

climber
San Fran Cisco
Nov 2, 2008 - 10:23pm PT
It speaks volumes how happy your mom looks in his arms.
nature

climber
Santa Fe, NM
Nov 2, 2008 - 10:26pm PT

This is to be the final post from me under Ouch!s name.

I think it is time for me to create my own account. I greatly enjoy seeing the past topics that he was on, that some of you have posted. Somehow I just get a very warm feeling everytime I see his name on ST and will continue to read his posts that go back for the past years in which he was a member of the ST family. Due to the memories you share I believe he will remain a member of the ST family for some time to come... and that is a wonderful thing.


How does that Eagle's song go?

Once you get sucked in you can never leave. LOL!!11

I think it's a great idea to set up your own account so welcome aboard.

Oh.. and for what it's worth... though this is a climbers website not a climbing (only) web site. It's one big happy dysfunctional campfire. Heck...all you have to do is read every word LEB every typed and you'd recognize anything goes.
Mighty Hiker

Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Nov 2, 2008 - 10:29pm PT
Hotel California (Eagles): "You can check out any time you want, but you can never leave."

"Heck...all you have to do is read every word LEB ever typed and you'd recognize anything goes."

Either that, or you'd find another forum.
Lynne Leichtfuss

Social climber
valley center, ca
Nov 2, 2008 - 10:34pm PT
Allie, I just need to let you know how much your Dad helped me process my own husbands death 10 months ago. He honored me with several comic versions of Lynnie, but he also emailed and helped me process the similar grief you are now feeling.

This fourm has been absolutely a life saver for me. I never heard of it until my husband died .... kind of like you and your Dad. The People on here are incredible. They saved my life. I know they have hugely helped you. What an Absolutely Great Planet we live on .... when people live like they should and love and care about each other. Right on Allie. God Speed. You have a life time of good thoughts to dwell on about your Papa. Ain't that great ! Lynnie

Peace, Joy, Love and Big Smiles To You
MisterE

Trad climber
My Inner Nut
Nov 2, 2008 - 10:39pm PT
Lynne, that's so sweet. A big online group hug will now ensue...
AllieKat

Social climber
Kirkland, WA
Nov 3, 2008 - 02:37am PT
"A big online group hug will now ensue... "

I definitely felt that hug here...

...and it was much needed. Thanks!

Not to mention I had Alice Cooper/Welcome to my nightmare...stuck in my head all day. Happy to report I am now humming along to Hotel California!

: )

~Allie
Crimpergirl

Social climber
Boulder, Colorado!
Nov 5, 2008 - 01:49pm PT
Bump.
Splater

climber
Grey Matter
Nov 5, 2008 - 03:32pm PT
What an amazing collection of stories about OUCH.
Very sad news, but still I find this thread to be so inspirational.
Thanks, Ouch.
scuffy b

climber
On the dock in the dark
Nov 5, 2008 - 04:16pm PT
Fattrad, did you know that Love Lies Bleeding is the name of
a flower?
Mighty Hiker

Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Feb 13, 2009 - 11:11am PT
Another Ouch! bump, for his birthday.
SteveW

Trad climber
The state of confusion
Feb 13, 2009 - 02:22pm PT
And another bump for Alliekat.
I hope she's doing okay on this birthday of her father.
Cheers!
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Feb 14, 2009 - 03:13am PT
hey there... hope you are doing all right, allie.. we love you.. god bless to you and your mom...
SammyLee2

Trad climber
Memphis, TN
Feb 14, 2009 - 01:01pm PT
Allie and all ST'ens,

Just a note to remember Ouch! and all his contributions to our campfire. What a great guy.
Crimpergirl

Social climber
Boulder, Colorado!
Feb 14, 2009 - 02:42pm PT
When I open a thread and see OUCH!'s name I still get that excited happy feeling. I hope that I never lose that butterfly in my stomach - his posts were and continue to be such a treat!
Anastasia

climber
Not here
Feb 14, 2009 - 02:50pm PT
Ouch is an unforgettable beautiful man. (Feeling the hug...) His positive imprint in this life will keep spinning us towards being better humans. In that way I don't think he's ever left us.
AF
Jello

Social climber
No Ut
Feb 14, 2009 - 06:32pm PT
I, too, miss the big OUCH...

Hope you're doing well, Allie.

-Jello
Mighty Hiker

Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Oct 15, 2009 - 08:54pm PT
It is jumping the gun slightly, but Friday October 16th will be the first anniversary of the death of our friend. I thought it would be appropriate to remember him.
John Moosie

climber
Beautiful California
Oct 15, 2009 - 08:59pm PT
Lets have an Ouch Fest. Where are those cartoons?
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Oct 15, 2009 - 09:09pm PT
I dunno John.

People already think climbers are masochists. Maybe we should think of a name besides "Ouch fest".
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Oct 15, 2009 - 09:10pm PT
Nature was going to archieve them.....
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Oct 15, 2009 - 09:16pm PT
Often imitated, never duplicated (even though I do appreciate all the valiant recent efforts...)
nature

climber
Tucson, AZ
Oct 15, 2009 - 10:00pm PT
It's in the works... stay tuned.... should have something to look at soon.
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Oct 16, 2009 - 12:04am PT
hey there nature, say that is sweet to do that for his memory...

god bless, to the family of OUCH!
hugs to allikat... :)
John Moosie

climber
Beautiful California
Oct 16, 2009 - 12:34am PT
Hurray !!! Thanks Stich
SteveW

Trad climber
The state of confusion
Oct 16, 2009 - 08:51am PT
We still think of you, OUCH!

Hope you're doing well, Allie!
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Oct 16, 2009 - 08:55am PT
hey there stitch, say, thanks... i came in, just on the tail end of OUCH! and his last year or two? so i missed a lot of his stuff...

thank you for helping us remember him...
and honoring his friedship here, here...
Crimpergirl

Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
Oct 16, 2009 - 09:56am PT
A year has passed but it's still so hard to believe he's gone from here. It will never be the same without OUCH!
Gary

climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Oct 16, 2009 - 10:32am PT
Ouch! was quite the guy, and Crimper is right on.
pc

climber
East of Seattle
Oct 16, 2009 - 11:40am PT
Cheers to Ouch!
couchmaster

climber
pdx
Oct 16, 2009 - 12:31pm PT
Here here! Great guy. I drink to the man's memory!

Fletcher

Trad climber
Shivasana
Oct 16, 2009 - 12:33pm PT
Yay Ouch! We love you so.

Eric
AllieKat

Social climber
Kirkland, WA
Oct 16, 2009 - 04:38pm PT
Thank you for remembering! You are an amazing group of people and dad was so lucky to have found you. I truly believe that you all were integral at helping keep him as sharp and upbeat as he was all the way up until the end. Cannot really adequately relay the appreciation we feel for how wonderful you were to him.

Difficult week as it crept up on this day....seeing these posts makes it much easier. Once again reminds me of who he was and the wonderful life that he lived.

Thank you! I feel like this is kind of a celebration for him and that is a wonderful thing that this morning I would have said could not happen!

This email at the bottom is just the beginning lines of one between my dad and me...it went on to talk about trivial things and I told him he should watch a good vampire movie I had seen and he complained about the price of on demand movies...hehe. We must have exchanged that same type of email 1000 times and for some reason I pull them up often. I wish that I had more time to email him...and more time for him to tell me he is eating breakfast and what the weather is in Spokane...and more time to call me Pickles...just more time for everything. I wish I could have felt the slightest bit like I do now...before he passed....so that I would not have taken a second for granted.

Take the time to be with those you love, answer their emails and phone calls. Take every free second that you can grab hold of. : )

With that said hehe....we are all doing well and mom is getting ready to move over here in the next couple weeks. All of the holidays will be spent together and it is a good thing.... : )

I like reading his emails and seeing his pictures on ST. There will never be another quite like him.

Cheers to my dad Ouch! and cheers to you all.... : )

AllieKat


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-----Original Message

From: aschrimp@comcast.net [mailto:aschrimp@comcast.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:30 AM
To: Allison Awasthi
Subject: YO!

Hello Pickles



Hello pop! What's going on over there?


-----Original Message

From: aschrimp@comcast.net [mailto:aschrimp@comcast.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:46 AM
To: Allison Awasthi
Subject: RE: YO!

Nothing much. Cool and rainy. Breakfast.


nita

Social climber
chica from chico, I don't claim to be a daisy
Oct 16, 2009 - 06:49pm PT
***
Thanks Allie, Not having your Dad around...Is a Huge Loss...


Ouch, Thanks for the art, the laughs and keeping it light around here.. We still miss you... sigh....


damn, that salty liquid again..
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Oct 16, 2009 - 07:10pm PT
A doubly painful anniversary.

Meeting up with Woody to climb, frequently his first sentence was an intense;

DID YOU SEE WHAT OUCH DID TO ME!!!






Followed with an ear to ear grin.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Oct 16, 2009 - 07:13pm PT
good to remember Ouch!
and amazing that he found this place and figured out how to contribute in a very important way, he made sure we didn't take it all too seriously. Being Ouch!ed was certainly a good indicator that it was time to pull back and remember that we're supposed to be having a bit of fun, too.

We'll all be gone someday, and our loved ones, so make time for them, even the most trivial of things.
Crimpergirl

Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
Oct 16, 2009 - 08:11pm PT
One of my parrots is named Pickles! Tonight I will raise a toast to OUCH!
nature

climber
Tucson, AZ
Oct 17, 2009 - 01:33am PT
bump
Mighty Hiker

Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Oct 17, 2009 - 01:47am PT
One of my parrots is named Pickles!
I thought that's what you and Dave called...
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Oct 17, 2009 - 04:17am PT
hey there say, alliekat, i wanted to get this in before the day was over, but i am a few hours late...

hugs and love and god bless to you and your mom and family, during this one year rememberbrance...
Tom

Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
Oct 17, 2009 - 05:47am PT
OUCH! always had a great input to SuperTopo.

I miss him.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Oct 17, 2009 - 07:07am PT
Thanks, Ouch!
NeverSurfaced

Trad climber
Puerto Natales
Aug 2, 2010 - 10:24pm PT
Bummer - I had no idea...
Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Oct 15, 2010 - 11:58am PT
It will be two years tomorrow since Ouch! left us. Bump.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Oct 15, 2010 - 12:11pm PT
Miss ya, Ouch!

Cheers, Alliekat!
Crimpergirl

Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
Oct 15, 2010 - 12:20pm PT
A lot has changed in the two years. I think Ouch and the others who have gone in the last two years are having a much better time where they are than we are here on ST. It's definitely something to look forward to.
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Oct 15, 2010 - 04:12pm PT
hey there alliekat, and family... god bless to you, at this time of remembrance... :)
nature

climber
back in Tuscon Aridzona....
Oct 11, 2011 - 09:11pm PT
it's been almost three years.... bump
Crimpergirl

Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
Oct 11, 2011 - 09:19pm PT
I still get goosebumps. It still brings tears to my eyes. Man, those were the days. It's never been the same without Ouch. And oh how I miss being (and seeing others) get Ouched. Great man.
John Moosie

climber
Beautiful California
Oct 11, 2011 - 09:24pm PT
I definitely miss him. A kind person with a sharp and hilarious wit.
nature

climber
back in Tuscon Aridzona....
Oct 11, 2011 - 09:32pm PT
I have not added any more. But I'll see if I can find some time to continue to dig through the chaotic collection I have on my hard drive.
nature

climber
back in Tuscon Aridzona....
Oct 11, 2011 - 09:47pm PT
6.5G

there's a whole bunch of duplicates. many images are originals. there's some "family" photos in there. Nothing that appears personal though. He was a mad-man :-)


And it sure seems like there is stuff that was or is out on the net that isn't in the collection.
Gary

climber
Desolation Row, Calif.
Oct 11, 2011 - 09:48pm PT
SteveW

Trad climber
The state of confusion
Oct 11, 2011 - 10:34pm PT

I hope you're having fun, wherever you are, Ouch!

(he's probably makin' 'em laugh there too)!!!!
S.Leeper

Social climber
somewhere that doesnt have anything over 90'
Feb 28, 2012 - 07:39pm PT
I was just thinking of Ouch the other day.
Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Oct 16, 2012 - 11:41pm PT
It's four years today since Ouch! (Allen Schrimsher) left us.
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