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blahblah
Gym climber
Boulder
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Dec 19, 2013 - 08:04pm PT
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let me rephrase, I myself and only I, am damn proud that a UNANIMOUS state Supreme Court
ruled in favor of same sex marriage
there, feel better now?
Yes, here's why.
The important point is that those of you who depend on state or federal supreme courts for your damned "rights" to sodomy or whatever else you want to do better be prepared to suck plenty of lemons when the courts don't go your way, which will be something like half the time. (Actually you'll probably get your sodomy and drugs and whatever else more than half the time, as that's the way the country seems to be moving--isn't it great? Our founders would be so prod.!)
And actually I don't have any huge problem with "gay marriage" but I do wonder about a theory of constitutional interpretation that finds that somehow people have a "right" to engage in behavior that was punishable by death when the constitution that they are "interpreting" was enacted.
However, that debate seems to be mostly over.
The constitution-means-whatever-the-hell-we-say-it-means school seems to have won the day.
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dirtbag
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 19, 2013 - 08:25pm PT
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Norton, I'm proud of your state for adopting such an enlightened constitution. The people and their elected representatives did a very good thing.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
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to engage in behavior that was punishable by death
Uh, probably gonna need to provide some documentation here. Where? What laws? etc. The usual stuff.
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TradEddie
Trad climber
Philadelphia, PA
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Uh, probably gonna need to provide some documentation here. Where? What laws? etc. The usual stuff.
He's correct, existing English common law remained in effect in most states after the Revolution and the US constitution, although the last person convicted under such laws was in 1785, two years before the US constitution was drafted. Many "crimes" such as trading with Indians were capital offenses. In 1842 Florida passed a law providing the death penalty for sodomy, the first state to do so in 123 years.
http://www.glapn.org/sodomylaws/history/history12.htm
By contrast, people were being executed for aiding runaway slaves in the 1850's.
TE
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
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^Interesting stuff.
To sum up, I suppose you could say it was punishable by law, but no one was punished.
Kind of makes you wonder what the status of the Florida law is today.
If someone pokes someone in the butt with his gun barrel while standing one's ground and it goes off and kills the person, is the poker innocent on one hand, but guilty on the other? Gets even weirder if the guy happens to be standing his ground against a slave. God forbid (God still does forbid I'm pretty sure, even though the Supreme Court appears not to) that the two are married.
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Bushman
Social climber
Elk Grove, CA
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Positive diversity should always make the world a place.
Open the mind.
This one's for all you rock 'n roll fans out there.
'Unmistakable'
Woke up to the sounds of the tinkling keys,
That played all around the peripheries,
Of a quavering rhythm and gliding Bach themes,
Of a classical piecework mixed with rock and roll dreams,
Where it lilted and tilted like Don Quixote's lance,
As it built to crescendo and started to dance,
Before rock and roll intro I knew it was him,
And I couldn't help notice the twitch of a limb,
With an artisans hand and a flair for dramatic,
Who belts out his words with a voice that's ecstatic,
There is only one man that can light up a tune,
And throw down the gauntlet like Oliver Moon,
It was he and none other who showered with light,
Than the one the only Reginald Kenneth Dwight,
Living long in the spotlight as rock and roll's son,
But to most he is known only as Sir Elton John.
-bushman
10/07/14
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TradEddie
Trad climber
Philadelphia, PA
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The best part of this for me is how it upsets the bigots and religious zealots. Personally, gay rights are way down on my list of concerns, but the vehement opposition of right wing conservatives makes it a bigger deal for me. I even have to admit that I'm slightly disappointed when I see a Republican change their position on gay rights.
TE
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, or In What Time Zone Am I?
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people have a "right" to engage in behavior that was punishable by death
ummm....sounds like climbing.
Susan
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dirtbag
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 16, 2015 - 05:19pm PT
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It looks like the Supreme Court will take up this issue again, hopefully for the last time.
I'm sure the usual group of haters will make their usual dipshit arguments.
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
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Jan 16, 2015 - 06:21pm PT
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"To live outside the law you must be honest."
Anyone agree.
The law and it's "executioners" are way out of control.
Maryland Parents Investigated For Neglect After Letting Their Kids Walk Home From School Alone
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-01-16/maryland-parents-investigated-neglect-after-letting-their-kids-walk-home-school-alon
Think about how terrifying this is for a second. Two clearly loving, intelligent and thoughtful parents where threatened with the removal of their children for allowing them to do something that should be seen as completely normal by all but the most scared, pathetic and uncourageous amongst us. To make matters worse, the whole thing started because a neighbor ratted them out.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Whether it's in the deli or the back side , bacon wrapped shrimp has got to hurt...
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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It wasn't enough to just say shrimp, he had to wrap it in bacon
it's better than having ur dick wrapped in poop
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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it's better than having ur dick wrapped in poop
Are you speaking from personal experience?
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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yep and i'm here to tell ya bacon or shrimp are better!
let alone intertwined.
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
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One way to get that poop-offa-ur-dick might be a golden shower. However, then you gotta deal with getting the urine smell outa your hot dogs.
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Lollie
Social climber
I'm Lolli.
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zBrown, that's gotta be a joke, right?
This obsession with other people's sexual habits is strange. Absolutely unhealthy.
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