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bookworm
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Falls Church, VA
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"Or I guess we could go with your route and pretend that "Obama is responsible for the financial crisis" which is so mind numbingly retarded I think my IQ dropped a couple points just quoting it."
never said it, high; but i don't think you should worry about dropping a couple points...i mean, i don't think it's possible to have a negative iq
is the msm actually starting to take obama's campaign seriously, i mean seriously enough to actually do some real investigative journalism? what did cbs find?
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/06/cbsnews_investigates/main4504955.shtml
your man may win, but he's as corrupt as they come...and remember, there's only one thing the media loves more than hyping the next big thing (in this case, obama)--tearing them down
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Brunosafari
Boulder climber
Redmond, OR
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Dutch Tulips, 1907...I didn't know he was that old!
I turned on the Tube to Fox last night to see what they were up to. Straight out, Hannity was trying to make Obama out to be a terrorist, by association.
What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
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dirtineye
Trad climber
the south
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 6, 2008 - 08:16pm PT
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A sadly deluded rethuglican dupe wrote:
"your man may win, but he's as corrupt as they come..."
Hmmm, now just WHO is as corrupt as Bush and Cheney? I really don't think you have much of a case here, but go ahead punk. Make my day.
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
Nowhere
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The headline at foxnews.com right now:
Obama Surges
New FOX News/Rasmussen Reports Poll shows Democratic nominee making significant gains in three of five key battleground states
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nature
climber
Santa Fe, NM
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McSame and Pain just woke up next to a fat lady who is singing like no tomorrow....
LOL!
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ontheedgeandscaredtodeath
Trad climber
San Francisco, Ca
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I just read that Obama is surging ahead in certain "battleground" states. I think the "pals around with terrorists" and similar comments are harming McPalin. People are watching their 401ks evaporate or worse and they are talking about someone who set off some bombs when Obama was 8 years old? It shows disconnect.
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nick d
Trad climber
nm
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Fatty, "just routine"?
Hey, we looted and raped America, again! Just get over it.
Thats GOP baby!
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bookworm
Social climber
Falls Church, VA
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weird...i'm watching the pbs biography of carter:
"from anonymity to the white house..."
"overwhelmed by circumstances: an energy crisis, inflation, and islamic revolution..."
"a good and decent man that was not up to the task of being president..."
"self-righteously arrogant..."
sounds an awful lot like obama...except the good and decent part
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dogtown
climber
Where I once was,I think?
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Bump bookworm!
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dirtineye
Trad climber
the south
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 6, 2008 - 09:40pm PT
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Funny how arch conservatives are now calling Carter the ONLY president who got the energy thing right.
And YOUR MAN, Ronnie Rayguns, dismantled it all, what a fvcking idiot.
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Brunosafari
Boulder climber
Redmond, OR
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Wierd...I was just eating a prune.
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
Arid-zona
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"And, you're forgetting that McCain proposed a bill in 2006 that might have mitigated the current crisis. We'll see something like this again in the future, they happen periodically........Dutch Tulips, 1907, 1929.......just routine."
Fatty's third talking point. Always nice when you have some hypothetical legislation that would have "fixed" an incredibly complicated and long building problem. Would it work as well as McCain-Feingold did, Fatty?
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dirtbag
climber
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"weird...i'm watching the pbs biography of carter:
"from anonymity to the white house..."
"overwhelmed by circumstances: an energy crisis, inflation, and islamic revolution..."
"a good and decent man that was not up to the task of being president..."
"self-righteously arrogant..."
sounds an awful lot like obama...except the good and decent part "
Then quit sucking on Palin's teets, you hypocrite.
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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McCain should have stayed away from lame attacks. Obama was running a pretty issues-based campaign but experience show you have to attack back.
We haven't even had McCain's adultary and subsequent wife dumping yet (after she waited for him to come back from Nam POW Camp)
Glass houses.
Is Palin's Husband a domestic terrorist if he belongs to a group trying for Alaska's indepdence?
"Palin's Attack On Obama's Patriotism Legitimizes Questions About The Palins' Association With Group Founded By America-Hating Secessionist
By Greg Sargent - October 4, 2008, 4:55PM
Sarah Palin attacked Obama's patriotism today over his association with former Weatherman Bill Ayers -- a move that makes it perfectly legitimate to raise questions about the Palins' associations with a group founded by an Alaska secessionist who once professed his "hatred for the American government" and cursed our "damn flag."
In Colorado today, Palin seized on the big front-page New York Times story about Ayers and Obama, which concludes that the two men "do not appear to have been close," to launch her most vicious attack yet on the Illinois Senator -- a harbinger of what's to come.
"This is not a man who sees America as you and I do -- as the greatest force for good in the world," Palin said. "This is someone who sees America as imperfect enough to pal around with terrorists who targeted their own country."
If Palin is going to say this, it is now perfectly legitimate to point out that she repeatedly courted a secessionist group founded by someone who openly professed hatred of the American government, cursed our flag, and wanted to secede from the Union. Sarah's husband, Todd Palin, was a member of this group, which continues to venerate that founder to this day, for years.
As you already know, the group is the Alaska Independence Party, which sees as its ultimate goal seceding from the union. Todd was a member, with a brief exception, from 1995 until 2002, according to the Division of Elections in Alaska.
And though Sarah Palin herself was apparently not a member of this group, there's no doubt that she repeatedly courted this secessionist organization over the years. In 1994, Palin attended the group's annual convention, according to witnesses who spoke to ABC News' Jake Tapper. The McCain campaign has confirmed she visited the group's 2000 convention, and she addressed its convention this year, as an incumbent governor whose oath of office includes upholding the Constitution of the United States.
The founder of the AIP was a man named Joe Vogler. Here's what he had to say in a 1991 interview, only a few years before Palin attended its convention: "The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government.""
From
http://tinyurl.com/4ccnt9
It's at least as relevant as the Ayers gag.
Peace
KarL
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bookworm
Social climber
Falls Church, VA
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"Funny how arch conservatives are now calling Carter the ONLY president who got the energy thing right."
and which arch conservatives would those be? could you actually be quoting pat buchanan????
ummm...dirt? palin's not running for president, but i appreciate the fact you don't deny the parallels between carter and obama
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bookworm
Social climber
Falls Church, VA
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et tu, cnn? then fall, obama.
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/07/cnn-obamas-lying-about-william-ayers/
ok, let's talk about poor judgment (and this applies to most elected officials)...know whose house you're sleeping in (i mean that metaphorically); if obama truly didn't know about ayers, he should have asked about the guy hosting his political coming out party...it's fair to argue ayers' past deeds should not stand alone in judging the man, but he remains unrepentant and wishes they had done more; so, what the guy thinks today weighs even more than what he did yesterday...if you like/admire/respect the guy, just say so and stand by him and your own judgment (come on, don't we all have a friend who everyone else thinks is an a**hole?); denying it only makes you look weak, cowardly, disloyal, etc...finally, if you have any aspirations for elected office, do NOT lie! the truth will out eventually
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dirtbag
climber
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"ummm...dirt? palin's not running for president, but i appreciate the fact you don't deny the parallels between carter and obama"
ummmm...I never said any such thing about Obama and Carter.
But you are one of the site's staunchest Palin supporters, though I have no idea why.
If those thing bug you about Obama and Carter, then they should bother you about Palin.
If they don't you're being dishonest or dense.
Which is it?
And Palin is one 72-yo heart beat away from being Prez. So nice dodge there.
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dirtbag
climber
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"oy vey, now the ap?
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D93LB1280&show_article=1&lst=1"
That settles it. They were bosom buddies. Obama is a terrorist. LOL!
Remember when McCain pledged to stick to the issues?
And Palin is just an empty shell, spitting out insults, the perfect embodiment of the modern Republican Party and its bankruptcy of ideas. (And you and the other Palin teet-suckers here just absolutely love her..)
You guys keep looking more and more desparate and ridiculous as the election nears. It's like watching the last little bits of Republican sh#t spiral down the toilet.
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bookworm
Social climber
Falls Church, VA
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"ummmm...I never said any such thing about Obama and Carter"
like i said, you don't deny
do i think palin is more qualified than obama? you betcha! at least she has actually been in charge of something...but i'm willing to call it a tie on the experience issue...but i guess it isn't really a tie when our vp candidate matches your pres candidate
and, the fact is, biden is only one african-american (shorter life span) smoker (way shorter lifespan) heartbeat away from the presidency...really, a guy who has been thoroughly rejected by his own party...twice!...and a guy who's suppose to have all this foreign policy experience but is completely delusional about one of the most critical states--lebanon--in the middle east (the most critical region in the world)
and i can't understand why you continue to support obama when he has done nothing to support his promises of change...in fact, the facts show just the opposite
see, that's what i mean by faithy...you ridicule people who have faith in god even though you can't prove god doesn't exist...well, you have faith in obama even though there's tons of proof the obama you believe in doesn't exist
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