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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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What is sthe story on the husband???
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Gary
climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Chaz: If you are the one in control of your own life, it doesn't matter who the President is.
And what if you're not in control of your own life?
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ontheedgeandscaredtodeath
Trad climber
San Francisco, Ca
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I think he belonged to a group that wanted Alaskan independence. If you have been to Alaska, or know many Alaskans, you'll know that belonging to such groups is no big deal.
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Chris2
Trad climber
The Gunks to Joshua Tree
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Because rockgirl, the republican party loves her and people in general are intrigued by her.
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dirtbag
climber
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"I think he belonged to a group that wanted Alaskan independence."
In other words, he's an America-hater.
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ontheedgeandscaredtodeath
Trad climber
San Francisco, Ca
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Probably more of oil industry lover than America-hater.
They drool at the prospect of resource extraction without meddling from the lower 48.
It's just a nutty Alaska thing. What's alarming is that some one stupid enough to actually pursue such a thing could have the ear of the president.
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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If McCain/Palin lose, especially if the Democrats also have a majority in the Senate and House, the unwieldy Republican coalition will start disintegrating. Its various uneasy bedfellows won't get along so well without the rewards of power, and don't have much else in common.
After nearly 30 years controlling the government, the Republicans are essentially bereft of constructive ideas or leadership. (As the supposed "anti-government" party, they arguably never had any constructive ideas, and were primarily a vehicle for gaining control.) Loss of power may cause the party to reformat itself as a more traditional conservative body, and jettison the fringe elements. It may have to substantially reform to have any credibility, as happened in the 1850s, and again under Theodore Roosevelt and then in the 1930s - 1950s.
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Chaz
Trad climber
So. Cal.
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How do you figure "...nearly 30 years controlling the government"?
The Republicans held the Presidency and Congress at the same time for maybe five years ('01 - '06).
But five's close enough to thirty I guess, if you don't really care too much about accuracy.
You can say five years is plenty enough to f#ck things up, and you probably won't get much of an argument, but I am interested to know how you arrive at the "nearly 30 years" number.
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dirtbag
climber
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You're forgetting the conservative 3rd branch of government.
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Chaz
Trad climber
So. Cal.
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OK then.
The Republicans have held the Presidency, Congress, and the Supreme Court at the same time for what, THE SAME FIVE YEARS! ('01 - '06).
Jesus!
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dirtineye
Trad climber
the south
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Well Chaz, your typical rethuglican BS misrepresenting the facts goes like this:
'Well, the repthugs only controlled both presidency and congress for like 5 (which is wrong BTW) out of 30, so, .... blah blah blah...:
BUt you see Chaz, even a 5 year old can understand that you DON"T NEED BOTH CONGRESS AND the PRESIDENCY to control govenrment.
In fact, after the rethuglican revolution led by Gingrich, just how much did Clinton get done?
And there there is the bully pulpit, used so effectively by Ronnie Rayguns, to set in motion the crap that has ruined our country.
BUT let's look to an arch conservative authority on the subject, one who USED to vote republican without hesitation, but now feels differently.
Bacevich, retired army colonel, serious conservative (real conservative, not neo-con) is one of the sources for the 28 years of republicans in power and what do we have to show for it???
LIES!!!
THey SAID smaller government, but htey give us bigger and moreintrusive govenrment. . this happened under Reagan, Bush, and Bush 2. BTW, that's 20 years of rethug neo-con presidents, if anyone is counting.
They SAY they are for balanced budgets, but EVERY rethug president had given us bigger and bigger deficits, while ONLY CLINTON, the DEMOCRAT, made a balanced budget.
Now don;t take my word for it, go to bill moyer's site and read the transcript where Bacevich says these things.
And here's more news: HE's not the only conservative who feels betrayed by the rethugs.
So there, Chaz, I hope this helps a little, although I suspect you are probably in the same hopeless category as LEB.
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Reagan: 1981 - 1989.
Bush I: 1989 - 93.
Bush II: 2001 - 2009.
All Republicans. And Clinton was at most a centrist.
House of Representatives:
Democrat majority 1981 - 1995
Republican majority 1995 - 2007
Senate:
Democrat majorities 1987 - 95, 2005 -
Republican majorities 1981 - 87, 1995 - 2005
(More or less tied 2001 - 03)
Hopefully I haven't misread the official websites of the two bodies. Pretty hard to quantify the Supreme Court, but again a gradual tilt towards conservatism.
Overall, the Republicans have pretty much had the initiative since 1981.
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dirtbag
climber
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"OK then.
The Republicans have held the Presidency, Congress, and the Supreme Court at the same time for what, THE SAME FIVE YEARS! ('01 - '06).
Jesus! "
For that time, they had control over at least 2 out of 3 branches and for some of the time, they had control over all 3. That's a conservative-run government.
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Chaz
Trad climber
So. Cal.
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So the Republicans controlled things from the MINORITY?
You're not making good sense.
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Hardly from being a gradual shift, the Supreme Court has taken a dramatic shift to the right with the appointments of Roberts and Alito (who, BTW, had earned the nickname "Scalito" prior to his appointment for his rigidly conservative opinions, just like his namesake Scalia). Add in Thomas and you have a perfect storm of conservative judicial activists, three of whom are pretty young and likely to be around another 20 yrs.
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
Arid-zona
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Can we stop using the word "activist" in the reference to "judges?" It's such a bullshit concept.
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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HiDesertDJ,
Well, yes and no, but I agree with you in spirit so I'll oblige.
I've used the term in my post because it was a label used so frequently by the right to criticize decisions they did not like, even when there was strong precedent supporting a decision. Now that a group of openly conservative justices are on the bench, they have displayed a policy of overlooking precedent when reaching certain decisions, though no one on the right (who agreed with the rulings) have sounded the activist alarm.
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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"I think he belonged to a group that wanted Alaskan independence. If you have been to Alaska, or know many Alaskans, you'll know that belonging to such groups is no big deal. "
Sounds like a "Domestic Terrorist" to me. It can't be true, the backlash against Palin's "America hating terrorist lover" would be all over that
Peace
Karl
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