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HighDesertDJ
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Arid-zona
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How is it not a big deal to hate America so much that you want to secede from it? We send billions of taxpayer dollars to Alaska every year (the highest per capita of any state) and so many Alaskans want to take the money and run that it's not a "big deal?"
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nick d
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nm
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Whats really funny is their buddy in the secessionist party was killed in "a plastic explosives deal gone bad"
LOL! You just can't make stuff like that up!
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
Arid-zona
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How McCain lost the economist vote:
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Gary
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Desolation Basin, Calif.
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chaz: How do you figure "...nearly 30 years controlling the government"?
The Republicans held the Presidency and Congress at the same time for maybe five years ('01 - '06).
But five's close enough to thirty I guess, if you don't really care too much about accuracy.
You can say five years is plenty enough to f#ck things up, and you probably won't get much of an argument, but I am interested to know how you arrive at the "nearly 30 years" number.
Chaz, do you understand how our government functions? There has been a Republican administration for 28 of the last 40 years. The executive branch not only has veto power over the legislative branch, they also have responsibility of enforce the laws and regulations of our nation. Or not enforce those rules as the case may be.
Correct me if I am wrong, but at no time in the last 40 years has their been enough Democrats in congress to over ride a presidential veto.
So which party do you think has been most influential over the last 40 years?
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petey23
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 7, 2008 - 12:24pm PT
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Hey HDDJ, what issue was that in? I must have missed it, unless it's in the most recent issue that I haven't had time to read yet.
I'm surprised by those numbers, frankly. Obama's saber-rattling over NAFTA would have concerned most economists I would have thought, but perhaps the general malaise of McCain's campaign and his calling for the firing of Cox made economists nervous about his knowledge of the subject.
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Chaz
Trad climber
So. Cal.
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I'm making progress. Gary's giving ground.
It's gone from "controlling the government" to "most influential".
Which is it?
Please advise.
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WBraun
climber
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Ouote:
"He's going to be Bush on steroids," says Johns, the retired brigadier general who has known McCain since their days at the National War College. "His hawkish views now are very dangerous. He puts military at the top of foreign policy rather than diplomacy, just like George Bush does. He and other neoconservatives are dedicated to converting the world to democracy and free markets, and they want to do it through the barrel of a gun."
unquote.
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"Privately, McCain brags that he was the "original neocon." And after 9/11, he took the lead in agitating for war with Iraq, outpacing even Dick Cheney in the dissemination of bogus intelligence about the threat posed by Saddam Hussein."
unquote.
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Gary
climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Your choice, chaz. Which party do you feel has had the most control of our government over the last 40 years?
Or, which party do you feel has been most influential?
Or do you feel that the president has little influence in our political system?
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dirtbag
climber
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"I'm making progress. Gary's giving ground.
It's gone from "controlling the government" to "most influential".
Which is it?
Please advise. "
Oh sh#t, this is what it's come down to?
They controlled at least 2 out of 3 branches of government for at least the last 14 years.
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