need advice on new how to climb big walls book


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A friends backyard with the neighbors wifi
Oct 5, 2008 - 11:34am PT
bump, because its better than politics.

Either way you do it, I hope you post it so we can read it.
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Oct 5, 2008 - 12:00pm PT
If you like any of the material that I wrote for Strassman's How to Climb Big Walls, I would love to help out or long as you don't poke out my third eye! LOL

Social climber
wuz real!
Oct 5, 2008 - 12:16pm PT
Put a hat on it...

Trad climber
Poughkeepsie, NY
Oct 5, 2008 - 02:10pm PT
Chris, if you want feedback on the really important stuff, then don't post a half-baked preliminary version, which will waste your readers' efforts on stuff you could easily have fixed yourself.

Post a fairly advanced draft once, take comments, and then move on---don't post the corrected version. The good folks at SuperT can, and will, argue their positions forever. You, presumably, have somewhat less than that amount of time.

Trad climber
Truckee, CA
Oct 5, 2008 - 05:21pm PT
Rgold is right: post one version, use or ignore the comments, and move on. Things can be iterated to death here. But deuce4 is not: walls are not a good place to start, for those who have never climbed before. Don't need that kind of chapter. Anyone that should be in the readership of such a book ought to be competent with multipitch climbing. What's useful is highlighting what's different from Grade III-IV climbing that the reader is already good at. Plus aid of course. Don't shy away from expressing gear preferences; too many instructionals say it's all good, use whatever you prefer. Most climbers don't have that kind of budget. True, you need a variety of hooks and such, but not so for other gear categories. A useful wall book would tell you, are hybrids really that much better than C3s (or the opposite, as some say), big wall ladders much better or just different than old school etriers, and so on. Also, for wall maneuvers more than any other realm of climbing, really good graphics are critical. I'd get your illustrator in the mix early. My 2c.

Trad climber
Lake Placid NY and Scranton PA
Oct 5, 2008 - 08:29pm PT
Mr. McNamara,

I can't wait for you to be finished, I will definitely buy a copy. About time someone with (some) sanity puts out a big wall book that I actually stand a chance of understanding.
Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
Oct 5, 2008 - 08:32pm PT
I think it would be excellent content for the site and you'll get food for thought. Good for everybody. You might lose out on a few sales from folks who read it online.



Oct 6, 2008 - 03:19pm PT
Motivation for CM...

Go, Chris!

Big Wall climber
somewhere without avatars.........
Oct 6, 2008 - 03:49pm PT
How about something informative and well written about aid soloing. I see this brought up frequently - people wanting information about soloing and being told the same thing all the time - Currently, there's really nothing out there. I remember finding vague information before my first solo and really learned trial-by-fire, which was fine for me.

Just a thought...
Fat Dad

Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
Oct 6, 2008 - 04:14pm PT
Some good suggestions.

Personally, I think you need to refine it a bit before sharing because, as someone noted earlier, you may get a ton of responses to content you've already committed to changing.

Still, having said that, some of the comments you receive may help direct or change the course of the book.

Good luck.

Oct 6, 2008 - 04:38pm PT
Chris, If ya wanna reduce the chafe/noise, you might consider putting an editorial group together and doing it offline.
Fat Dad

Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
Oct 6, 2008 - 05:11pm PT
"aid climbing is neither"

Boo. Hiss.

Oct 6, 2008 - 05:47pm PT
Maybe start your own Wiki site as it will be easier to track edits?

Link to hosted Wiki's
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Oct 6, 2008 - 07:44pm PT
I suppose weakwrist climbs sans shoes, rope and clothing, but I would rather not see for myself.

Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
Oct 9, 2008 - 11:18pm PT
"Munge - the entire Somali telecoms project I'm working on is predicated on it being a paradoxical instance of development 'without state'. So yes, utterly preposterous according to conventional wisdom (making you conventionally wise)."

Kupa, not for nothing and this won't sound sexy at all but wouldn't we rather say "A treatise on non-conventional development"

Abstract me bro. Hook a forum up.

Trad climber
A hole
Apr 15, 2013 - 03:39pm PT
If you don't think it would be giving away too much, how about making a pdf for just the "Master Checklist" available for people who buy the hard copy to print instead of photocopying from the book?

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