Remembering 9-11-01: Let's Put it All in Perspective (OT)

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GDavis

Trad climber

SoCal

Sep 10, 2008 - 05:34pm PT

Wes, I gotta agree. While I may not agree with many others, I can understand where they are coming from and why they think certain things. It makes sense to me why some argue against gay marriage or have issues with the current administration. That is logical.

Illogical is refusing to believe the numerous point-by-point rebuttals and simple facts. Wes, when you show me facts on issues regarding scientific research or studies, I take them to heart. As long as you have an unbiased source, facts are something we can all sink our teeth into.

Creepy music with weird camera angles and slo-mo's of planes flying by buildings claiming there weren't any windows... well... I'll need more than that.

k-man

Gym climber

SCruz

Sep 10, 2008 - 05:38pm PT

but the burden of proof's on you

Still afraid to address the article in the OP, I see. I guess you cannot refute any of the FACTS that are put forth in that article.

For example, domestic spying started before 9/11/01. Or that the case for the Iraq war was fabricated, or that plans for the Iraq war were made before 9/11, and so on.

But, why argue with a wall...

sandstone conglomerate

climber

Sep 10, 2008 - 05:42pm PT

why exactly did we go to war with Iraq? Weapons of mass destruction? was that it? oh yeah, saddam was a bad dude. that mustache and sh#t..kinda reminded one of a sun-tanned Hitler.

dogtown

climber

Where I once was,I think?

Sep 10, 2008 - 05:43pm PT

Ho hum.

Chaz

Trad climber

So. Cal.

Sep 10, 2008 - 05:45pm PT

I've read at least 100 articles linked by posters on here on this subject, probably more, and you're telling me THIS ONE's the the one that will change my mind?

Really.

k-man

Gym climber

SCruz

Sep 10, 2008 - 05:46pm PT

Innocent questions that could use answers:

1) Why did Bush have to be forced to fund the 9/11 Commission?

2) Why did Bush refuse to testify under oath about 9/11?

3) Why couldn't Bush's testimony on 9/11 be taped, recorded, or in any way preserved?

4) Why did the questions have to be pre-screened?

5) Do you think Bush has something to hide WRT 9/11?

Chaz

Trad climber

So. Cal.

Sep 10, 2008 - 05:50pm PT

How 'bout YOU answering them for us.

You're doing a piss-poor job of convincing me to see things your way, and I'm giving you a chance.

Klimmer

Mountain climber

San Diego

Topic Author's Reply - Sep 10, 2008 - 05:55pm PT

It is true. 9-11 has not been thoroughly investigated. Any attempt to really trully investigate it just gets shot down. I wonder why?

Even looking at, or attempting to look at, or to study foresically any debrie from 9-11 from a non-biased, non-government, non-partisan investigative international team point of view just gets shot down by our government. What is there to hide? Hey, if it trully was Arabs with box-cutter knives and jet fuel that brought it all down, then the electron microprobe or microscopic forensic study will show that, even at this late stage in the cover-up, 7 years later.

Our government is supposed to have an incredible amount of footage from many cameras focused on the Pentagon, from many perspectives that shows the airline going into the building. We have seen none of it. And don't tell me about the one video that looks like a small aircraft or missile that is leaving a smoking trail flying into the Pentagon that they have released. That just proves our point. It wasn't a jet airliner. Show us all the footage. Prove it.

The 9-11 Commission Report has been rightfully called "The 9-11 Ommission Report." The entire event has not ever been rightfully investigated completely, just white-washed only. What is there to hide?

Spectacular coincedences happened on 9-11-01, over and over and over again, and the laws of physics were suspended. The OCT does not match the evidence that is known at this time.

That my friend means that hypothesis and/or theory is busted. That is how the scientific method works. The moment your hypothesis is invalidated then it is done. Time for a new one. Well, apparently the government hasn't gotten the memo. Much of the OCT has been invalidated with known public evidence. So why are they still hanging on to it?

The CTs of 9-11 actually tie the known evidence together better without invalidations. Is it perfect? No. But when you have a government hiding the evidence and not letting it all be studied in the full day light of science, what can you do?

Read any 9-11 book by Dr. David Ray Griffin. He gets it so simply and logically. He can blow the OCT out of the water without really trying.

k-man

Gym climber

SCruz

Sep 10, 2008 - 06:14pm PT

Chaz, I'll answer the questions: I think that Bush has something to cover up, plain and simple.
Otherwise he would not need to hide.

Now the burden of proof is on you--prove me wrong.

Another question: Why did Bush pardon Libby when he was convicted on perjury charges in relation to the Plame case?

My answer: Cover up.

Prove me wrong.

OK Chaz, do something besides side-step.

Chaz

Trad climber

So. Cal.

Sep 10, 2008 - 06:23pm PT

"Chaz, I'll answer the questions: I think that Bush has something to cover up, plain and simple.
Otherwise he would not need to hide."

And you wonder why the Defense rests without having to call any witnesses.

I thought you would do better than that, seriously.

k-man

Gym climber

SCruz

Sep 10, 2008 - 06:47pm PT

Hmm, defense rests without calling presenting a case.

We know Bush lied, what more do I need to present?

I say I won this one.

Chaz

Trad climber

So. Cal.

Sep 10, 2008 - 06:54pm PT

You should have quit earlier, K-man.

Your case gets weaker with every post!

I mean, you started off like a house on fire. And now we're left with *the President lied*.

Flashlight

climber

Sep 10, 2008 - 07:21pm PT

That's right, if we don't buy that psychodribble then we are not "thinking"...typical lunacy from the left.

seamus mcshane

climber

Sep 10, 2008 - 07:24pm PT

Bush/Cheney'08!!!

k-man

Gym climber

SCruz

Sep 10, 2008 - 07:27pm PT

I mean, you started off like a house on fire. And now we're left with *the President lied*.

For some folks, the president lying is an offense. And, when it's in direct conflict with the constitution, it's an impeachable offense.

Some folks think that *is* something.

On the other side of the coin, you've offered.... [nothing]