Bolt Replacement Glacier Point Apron


Discussion Topic

Return to Forum List
This thread has been locked
Messages 1 - 20 of total 45 in this topic << First  |  < Previous  |  Show All  |  Next >  |  Last >>
Roger Brown

Oceano, California
Topic Author's Original Post - Aug 23, 2008 - 03:53pm PT
On August 14 with Clint leading and me following we got our ropes fixed on Glacier Point Apron. My daughter is comming over today to show me how to post the pictures I took. Our ropes go up the right side of Monday Morning Slab to three pitches above the Coonyard. On the 15th Clint was off on another adventure and I started hauling up more rope and replacing bolts. Then on the morning of the 16th I had a little mishap. I managed to get down ok and with Kendall (local climber who just happened to be at the base) helping, I was able to get packed up and back to the parking lot. I was treated at the Clinic and sent on my way. I am home now and it may be another week till I can get back up there. So...... all that rope and the stuff at the base is my stuff. I left my ASCA signs at most of the anchors and at the base, but nothing with my name on it. After a week, the gear at the base may look a little abandoned. If any of you are climbing there, maybe you could dust things off and rearange the stuff hanging in the big bush so it looks a little bit more recent. The Clinic called yesterday and informed me that there are no broken ribs, so that should cut recovery time in half. YEE-HA, life is good.
Roger Brown
(I hope this is readable, the meds have me a little more goofy than usual)
Jay Wood

Trad climber
Fairfax, CA
Aug 23, 2008 - 04:17pm PT
Sorry to hear about your spill. A buddy just injured his rib from a missed step, and a jerking recovery motion. Not too fun.

Go easy on the comedy.
Mighty Hiker

Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Aug 23, 2008 - 08:01pm PT
Sorry to hear of your mishap, Roger - broken ribs, even without any other injuries, are no fun at all. What happened?

I'm too far away to do anything about your ropes and gear. Perhaps you should contact Jesse (if you haven't already), so he knows that the ropes and gear are there, and why. Otherwise, the NPS might remove them. Jesse may also know someone who could help with getting the gear consolidated, and keeping an eye on it.

Reposted, in case Jesse is now off work, though he hasn't been around ST much lately.

Trad climber
Boulder Colorado
Aug 23, 2008 - 08:09pm PT
oh Roger, you have all the fun :)

Big Wall climber
Aug 23, 2008 - 11:14pm PT
roger what did you do?
Mike Bolte

Trad climber
Planet Earth
Aug 24, 2008 - 12:59am PT
ah, broken ribs. There is pretty much nothing you can do. The two things that hurt the most are laughing (bummer) and getting up from a prone position-- oouch.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Aug 24, 2008 - 01:53am PT
Take care of yourself Roger!

Crestline CA
Aug 24, 2008 - 08:43pm PT
Careful Roger... you are the man with the plan..... keep it up Bro!!
Best wishes Tom
Clint Cummins

Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
Aug 25, 2008 - 04:59am PT
I hope you're healing up well, Roger!

Here are my photos to go with Roger's.
Some of Roger's photos are in his "Photo Test" post:

Apron view from the parking lot, morning of August 11

Roger following p1 of Monday Morning Slab Right Side

Roger belays p1 of Coonyard Pinnacle

Following Coonyard p3

Roger belaying p4

Typical Rohrer anchor on the central Apron rappel route (often doubles as belay anchor on Coonyard)

Following p4 (crux 5.9 traverse)

Following p5

Original(?) anchor atop Coonyard Pinnacle (fortunately there was a good bolt nearby)

Roger reaching Coonyard

Belaying from Coonyard

Clipping one of Layton Kor's original (1960) 1/4" Star Dryvin bolts on the Coonyard to Oasis extension

Roger leaving Coonyard, 3:30pm.
Shortly after this, my haul of the fixed line jammed, and I went down it to free things up.
As it turned out, it was jammed right at the ground.
I got a couple more ropes from Roger's car so we could continue further,
then hand-over-handed back up the fixed line with my miniTraxion.

Roger at the belay above Coonyard, after I returned, 6pm.

Clipping old slings on a fixed pin before cutting them to clip direct

Pitch with several tree climbing and branch-grabbing moves

Heading down the fixed ropes, 8pm.

Stoked OW climber
San Jose, CA
Aug 25, 2008 - 05:12am PT
You guys kick so much @ss. I am totally going to make use of your new bolts.

And Roger, I hope you heal up soon... taking one in the line of fire for community service, now that's dedication!

Aug 25, 2008 - 05:45pm PT
Sorry to hear about the injury Roger. Heal up soon!! Great work on the apron too! Nice to see people keeping things safe.
J. Werlin

Aug 25, 2008 - 07:58pm PT
Many thanks for all your work, gentlemen.

I hear you on the ribs, Roger. Three weeks into my own recovery. Get off those pain killers as soon as you can so you can tell what's going on. I saw someone who does Cranial/Sacral work as well as myofascial, helped ALOT, particularly with breathing and a rib that was out.

Good luck, mate. Patience.

Aug 25, 2008 - 08:07pm PT
Sorry to hear about your mishap - best wishes for a speedy recovery. My pop broke a rib in a fall (not climbing related) two years ago and it took him a while to recover so the bruised rib(s) sound a whole lot better to me than breaks...

I'd also like to say thanks for helping keep us safe!

Your gear should be safe - especially since it's marked but posting it hear helps to spread the word.


Gym climber
Aug 25, 2008 - 08:48pm PT
More KUDOs to The Team!

I won't be up there until this weekend...let me know if you still need assistance.

Also, speedy recovery to you Roger! We NEED you ;-)

Social climber
petaluma ca
Sep 13, 2008 - 12:25pm PT
When I did the first pitch of Coonyard with "Little" Joe McKeown in August 1960 I placed two bolts purchased from "The Dolt" in LA. They are the ones with the screw on nuts. That cured me of bolting forever. We made Coonyard the next day with no more bolts, and in October Jeff Foott and I almost made the Oasis, about two pitches short, with no bolts. We descended in complete darkness and on the traverse back Jeff, following, had a spectacular rolling pendulum type fall from which his hardware threw sparks around as he clanked over the granite. It was pretty neat, and he wasn't hurt much. Then Chouinard and Kor went up all the way to the Oasis placing bolts. I never understood this as Chouinard was against bolting (I thought) and so I chopped the one he put in on the third pitch of Coonyard. I took a bunch of falls on the first pitch, but they consisted really of slides, and getting hurt on the Apron is a big surprise to me. So now I'm an old guy, and I think the efforts at making things safe is good. However, someone needs to come up with an extractor so you don't have so many holes in the rock, or the old stuff needs to be drilled out.

Great pics. Much better than Little Joe took. They make it look steep which should impress my grandsons.

Sep 13, 2008 - 12:33pm PT
Hope you are recovering well, and thanks for the good work !
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Sep 13, 2008 - 12:45pm PT
Welcome Bill!

Any more reflections on old school friction climbing?!?

The Roper Green Guide description. What aid did you guys leave behind for Chuck and Frank?
Roger Brown

Oceano, California
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 13, 2008 - 01:35pm PT
Thank you so much for your first ascent report. No bolts other than the ones at the top of the Coonyard, (rap anchor) and the bolted anchors for the next 2 pitches have been replaced. The Kor bolt shown in Clint's photo will not be replaced. We will only replace those 2 bolts on the first pitch as shown on the topo. We try real hard to replace only first ascent bolts and sometimes we get it wrong. Also we take a lot of pride in removing the old bolts and re-using the old holes. If the old bolt is broken or we break it upon removal, we punch it down into the hole and do a patch job. Using epoxy and small stones we can do a pretty good job of hiding the damage. Clint is up there today checking my gear left at the base and the ropes. My rib damage turned out to be way worse than I thought. 5 broken, 3 complete with displacement and misalignment. The damage was that bad probably because of the huge rack of stuff I was carrying. Hangers with double ring hangers are really heavy and I had a lot of them on the big-wall rack along with all the bolt removal stuff and the cams. The first couple days of one of these projects involves hauling a lot of stuff to the high point and I was planning to do it in as few trips as necessary. But thats all history now. I am healing fast, off all meds, and finally sleeping in a bed again. I will be at Face-lift a week from Monday and plan on GPA a week later. I got in a hurry and made a stupid mistake and got off lucky. "When in doubt, lower out" Sorry about the spelling:-)
Roger Brown


Social climber
Santa Cruz Mountains/Los Gatos
Sep 13, 2008 - 04:31pm PT
glad to hear that you are healing Roger.
really appreciate all you do for the community.
be safe out there.

Social climber
petaluma ca
Sep 16, 2008 - 05:47pm PT
For Steve Grossman - The only hardware left on the route for Sacherer and Ostin was the two bolts on the first pitch. Glacier Point Apron is such a low angle that exposure was not an issue. On descents we didn't leave pitons but draped things over protruberances and often walked down carefully, usually just hand over hand then flipped the rope off. Pitons and such were too expensive. Old school friction climbing was to understand physics, the resolution of forces and coefficients of friction and then go for it and hope for the best, something which Sacherer and I talked about ad nauseum.
Messages 1 - 20 of total 45 in this topic << First  |  < Previous  |  Show All  |  Next >  |  Last >>
Return to Forum List
Our Guidebooks
Check 'em out!
SuperTopo Guidebooks

Try a free sample topo!

SuperTopo on the Web

Recent Route Beta