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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Communism is just a different name for dictatorship.
Lenin got rid of the communists.
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Majid_S
Mountain climber
Karkoekstan, Former USSR
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Yap
majority of Supertacos are in fact Communists but they can't say it
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Lituya
Mountain climber
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Lenin got rid of the communists.
Funny. Just because Lenin eliminated the LSR doesn't mean he wasn't a communist himself. Is this part of the same revisionism that now claims the USSR was not, in fact, communist at all? Rather, was practicing "state capitalism?" A bizarre world story you types create for yourselves.
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Lituya, may I recommend a very excellent book: Homage to Catalonia by George Orwell?
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Lituya
Mountain climber
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Has anyone not read it?
Careful with Orwell, though--he cuts both ways.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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I'll take Mr. Mooses personal experiences with mob rule over a commies double talk any day of the week...
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Lituya
Mountain climber
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Hitchens wrote a good book a while back--Why Orwell Matters. Like Orwell, Hitchens was impossible to pigeonhole. Which is why I liked the guy.
As for Spain, well, you and I probably see things differently. Still, how anyone who's read Ode could remain in support of leftist revolution is beyond me.
Not sure where your politics lie. I suspect some sort of anarchist Gramsci philosophy? In any event, that's the great thing, right? We're free to subscribe to whatever the f@#% we want to. Unfortunately, commies tend to close the door on this type of discourse once they gain power. And they want your soul too.
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10b4me
Social climber
Lida Junction
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nothing wrong with Communism, on it's surface. The problem is that it has been usurped by totalitarian dictatorships.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Lenin was warm and cuddly compared to his successor.
And do explain how communism is compatible with democracy.
Who’s gonna elect their chosen slave master?
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Lituya
Mountain climber
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So say what you will about those pesky Commies - at least they've learned to play the long game and are doing it with investments and sandals on the ground around the world instead of boots.
Maybe this is because they're too busy subjugating, starving, and murdering their own citizens.
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Has anyone not read it?
Careful with Orwell, though--he cuts both ways.
Have you read it?
Orwell does not cut both ways. He's very consistent.
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Sula
Trad climber
Pennsylvania
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10b4me posted:
nothing wrong with Communism, on it's surface. The problem is that it has been usurped by totalitarian dictatorships. For better accuracy, replace "... has been usurped by ..." with "... quite naturally and pretty much inevitably leads to ...".
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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The problem is that it has been usurped by RIGHT WING totalitarian dictatorships
So hence, calling commies leftists or left wing is a misnomer
There is nothing remotely similar to anything liberal in the great RED Communist Regimens
They have more in common with fascism using slave labor
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Sula
Trad climber
Pennsylvania
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xCon posted:
a commune does better even if half the members refuse to work rather than when all are required to by one guy ripping them all off... Would be interesting to hear of any examples of communes (with, say, 100+ members, that have been around for 10+ years) of which this is true.
Whereas it would be trivially easy to name dozens of companies with 100+ employees for which people enjoy working and who prosper as a result of their work.
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Would be interesting to hear of any examples of communes (with, say, 100+ members, that have been around for 10+ years) of which this is true.
https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2017/10/01/551018759/are-hunter-gatherers-the-happiest-humans-to-inhabit-earth
The idea is simple: Perhaps the American and European way of living isn't the pinnacle of human existence. Humanity hasn't been marching — in a linear fashion — toward some promised land. Perhaps, Western society isn't some magical state in which technology free us from the shackles of acquiring basic needs and allows us to maximize leisure and pleasure.
Instead, maybe, modernization has done just the opposite. Maybe the most leisurely days of humanity are behind us — way, way behind us.
"Did our hunter-gatherers have it better off?" James Lancester asks in a recent issue of The New Yorker.
"We're flattering ourselves by believing that their existence was so grim and that our modern, civilized one is, by comparison, so great," Lancester writes.
A study back in the 1960s found the Bushmen have figured out a way to work only about 15 hours each week acquiring food and then another 15 to 20 hours on domestic chores. The rest of the time they could relax and focus on family, friends and hobbies.
https://www.huntercourse.com/blog/2011/05/amazing-hunter-gatherer-societies-still-in-existence/
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Communism is awesome.
Just look at Venezuela.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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I hope to be going to live in the Kalahari soon, too, in a Land Rover.
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Lituya
Mountain climber
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And I hope to be going to Patagonia next year on my Suzuki. A true race to the bottom? :-)
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Capitalism is awesome, just look at south central LA.
I hope to be going to live in the Kalahari soon, too, in a Land Rover.
You'd be the happiest man on Earth!
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