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noah
Boulder climber
chicago
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Topic Author's Original Post - Jul 18, 2008 - 04:53am PT
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i need a partner for cave rock, a brave soul. Anyone psyched?
i want to go Monday for a big session (July 21st) and start climbing there a bunch over the next month in preparation for a trip to mallorca for some DWS.
I'm psyched to try and tick the main cave.
noah
330-701-4614
climb420.geo@yahoo.com
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Standing Strong
Trad climber
hopping on a moonshadow
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Jul 18, 2008 - 04:56am PT
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you have got to be f*cking kidding.
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mark miller
Social climber
Reno
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Jul 18, 2008 - 10:20am PT
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Even if this isn't a troll, please avoid Cave and go practice at Mayhem Cove area.Climbers have a poor enough reputation in the eyes of the public don't be the selfish schmuck that screws others in future access issues.
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the Fet
Knackered climber
A bivy sack in the secret campground
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Jul 18, 2008 - 11:18am PT
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noah, climbing was banned at Cave Rock. But you can still go there and enjoy it the way it was before climbers were there, i.e. smash some bottles on the ground and leave a big turd.
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Tahoe climber
Trad climber
a dark-green forester out west
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Jul 18, 2008 - 11:22am PT
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And the last horse crosses the finish line...
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BurnRockBurn
climber
South of Black Rock City
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Jul 18, 2008 - 11:26am PT
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Noah
Shawn from the ER. Have Monday off and can head out but not to the cave. Dont agree with the closure but will respect it.
Give me a call.
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Blitzo
Social climber
Earth
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Jul 18, 2008 - 11:42am PT
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Don't go to the Cave!
You can't do this there anymore!
Photos by Blitzo.
Area CLOSED! Going there will only make things worse!
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Jul 18, 2008 - 12:36pm PT
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the Fet wrote:
noah, climbing was banned at Cave Rock. But you can still go there and enjoy it the way it was before climbers were there, i.e. smash some bottles on the ground and leave a big turd.
LOL!
It's funny how this simple, blatant truth conveniently gets swept under the carpet.
This place was quite literally a shithole until climbers––and climbers alone––cleaned it up.
Shame on the PC apologists!
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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Jul 18, 2008 - 01:51pm PT
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Is that lower wall, seacliff area closed as well?
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Blitzo
Social climber
Earth
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Jul 18, 2008 - 02:44pm PT
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I beleive the whole area is closed. All the articles that I have found refer to the cave itself.
It's a good idea not to risk it.
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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Jul 18, 2008 - 03:05pm PT
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just curious, I wouldn't go there.
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Standing Strong
Trad climber
hopping on a moonshadow
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Jul 18, 2008 - 03:08pm PT
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noah if you pulled that where i am right now, you would get your tires slashed and the broken glass would be from your car's broken windows. and you would be lucky if that's ALL that happened to you.
just sayin'
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Jul 18, 2008 - 03:10pm PT
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If *Noah* pulled what?
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billygoat
climber
3hrs to El Cap Meadow, 1.25hrs Pinns, 42min Castle
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Jul 18, 2008 - 04:08pm PT
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Really? I thought the lower rock was open.
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Ricardo Cabeza
climber
Meyers,CA
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Jul 18, 2008 - 04:22pm PT
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Cave Rock is CLOSED.
Whether or not we agree with it, that's how it is. Don't mess up future options by climbing there.
Training for DWS? Good luck dropping off a route into shallow enough water to snap your tib/fib, femur.
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Blitzo
Social climber
Earth
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Jul 18, 2008 - 04:23pm PT
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It would seem that the lower cliff and the Kona Wall would be open. The focus has been on the Cave, but why risk it?
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the Fet
Knackered climber
A bivy sack in the secret campground
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Jul 18, 2008 - 04:37pm PT
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The lower wall is closed too.
I won't and don't recommend going there, but I don't see how it would matter in terms of making things worse.
As far as I know climbers respected the temporary bans for the most part and got screwed anyway.
We could have easily shared access at different times. But that wasn't even an option from the forest circus.
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the Fet
Knackered climber
A bivy sack in the secret campground
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Jul 18, 2008 - 04:58pm PT
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It's funny too how the FS said it's not about religion just impacts to a cultural resource, so the ban would hold up in court. But all climbing is banned and the cave walls are closed. Bouldering wouldn't harm the resource, but that got banned too... B.S.
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Blitzo
Social climber
Earth
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Jul 18, 2008 - 05:11pm PT
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The things that got the attention of The Washoe were The floor that Dan Osman put in and the fact that women were touching the rock. The route that Grumpy put up, between the tunnels didn't help either.
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dave goodwin
climber
carson city, nv
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Jul 18, 2008 - 05:34pm PT
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Hey Noah what's up?
how was South Africa? Call me at the shop when you have a chance.
take care
Dave
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Ricardo Cabeza
climber
Meyers,CA
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Jul 18, 2008 - 05:41pm PT
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I recently saw someone climbing the route between the tunnels.
Hurt my face, as I was smiling and frowning at the same time.
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Standing Strong
Trad climber
hopping on a moonshadow
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Jul 18, 2008 - 07:02pm PT
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climbing at CR despite the ban is fundamentally uncool no matter how you try to justify it
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the Fet
Knackered climber
A bivy sack in the secret campground
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Jul 28, 2008 - 06:58pm PT
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banning activities for sexist, religous reasons is more fundamentally uncool than climbing.
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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Jul 28, 2008 - 07:04pm PT
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I'm with the Fet.
Though, I think, as a show of goodwill, it would be best to stay off until this is settled. It will not be settled until we have the same 'rights' as those who are hoarding this public resource for their own selfish purposes. It will be settled.
We will climb there again, can we get over this nonsense, already?
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ep0ch
Trad climber
reno
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Aug 28, 2008 - 02:24am PT
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Sorry to bring this back up to the top, after it's been drifting into the pit for a few months.
However, after stopping at the boat launch yesterday to drain the bladder I noted two climbers heading towards the lower cave. I personally respect the FS's ban on climbing, though it isn't really posted anywhere that the area is closed to climbing. Even in the Falcon guide there is no notable mention that it has been placed as off-limits to climbing.
Just passing the word that people are still climbing there.
Also, as a side note, was the hardware not removed after the ban went into effect? I was under the impression that it was. This was the first time I've visited Cave Rock since the ban, and I noted quite a few fixed draws hanging around.
Anyway, if the climbers who were there yesterday read this, please respect the closure. It's closed. Go somewhere else and deal with it.
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Brock
Trad climber
RENO, NV
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Aug 28, 2008 - 10:47am PT
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I suggest getting drunk throwing beer cans around and trying your best to look Native American...If anyone questions you climbing at Cave Rock, tell them you are doing a ceremonial/spiritual PowWow to the great Spider Elder.
Geez, Drill a big tunnel through the rock and no big deal, try to climbi on the thing and it is disgracing the Holiness of the rock...
How about dressing up as Tonto, putting on war paint and climbing?
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Aug 28, 2008 - 12:02pm PT
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Great idea! Anyone up for the cave today?
(knott for climbing, I thought we could smash some bottles, shít and piss all over the place,
in other words, help restore Cave Rock to a knott-so-pristine, pre-climber-inhabited condition)
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Blue Eisele
Big Wall climber
Reno, NV
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Aug 28, 2008 - 12:40pm PT
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The cops busted my friend climbing there and he got a $200 ticket. I think it is ok to break bottles and do your business in the cave though, just don't touch the rock or you will steal it's mojo.
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Aug 28, 2008 - 12:42pm PT
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Spent tampons always add a nice touch...
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klinefelter
Boulder climber
Bishop, CA
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Aug 28, 2008 - 01:29pm PT
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"How about dressing up as Tonto, putting on war paint and climbing?"
Wow, the internets are fun, huh? You can post anonymous, racially insensitive remarks, and not have to deal with consequences.
Punk A$$ B|tch.
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Chaz
Trad climber
So. Cal.
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Aug 28, 2008 - 03:10pm PT
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Dressing as Indians while engaging in acts of civil disobedience is The American Way, a tradition as old as The United States itself.
Ever heard of The Boston Tea Party? Those dudes weren't wearing dashikis.
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