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Gary Carpenter
climber
SF Bay Area
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Jul 22, 2008 - 12:31pm PT
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Greg:
Two checks are in the mail.
One for a tuning fork the other a donation.
Keep up the good work!
Gary
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msiddens
Trad climber
Mountain View, CA
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anyone know where these can be bought from today?
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Clint Cummins
Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
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They are not marketed, but contact Greg or Theron if you need one.
I prefer to make my own, from a longer and thinner Lost Arrow.
I use a hacksaw to do this, and it doesn't take that long.
If you have a bandsaw, it would go much quicker.
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msiddens
Trad climber
Mountain View, CA
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Thanks Clint
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mucci
Trad climber
The pitch of Bagalaar above you
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I just ground a few out, #1 LA for the starter, then the Moses Fork, very nice.
Most grinding blades are slightly larger than 1/4 inch.
Really easy to make your own.
Although I love the machining that Moses does on his, very nice indeed.
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Greg Barnes
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 6, 2009 - 09:37pm PT
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The ASCA still has 1/4" tuning forks that are professionally milled by Theron Moses. They are #3 LAs with a ramp at the front, so they are pretty thick - you definitely need to start the bolt pulling with other thin pin(s) before they will fit (unless the bolt is already sticking way out).
Contact me to order, we still sell them for $10 each including shipping. You can pay by Paypal from the ASCA site (the "Make a Donation" button), or by check to ASCA, PO Box 1814, Bishop CA 93515 - but regardless, make sure to email me so I know it's for a tuning fork.
They will bend open and break if you try to pull 5/16" buttonheads or larger bolts (except for 3/8" Star-Dryvins, if you use them above the hanger, you can pull the nail itself - the nail is 1/4").
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mucci
Trad climber
The pitch of Bagalaar above you
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Greg-
"except for 3/8" Star-Dryvins, if you use them above the hanger, you can pull the nail itself - the nail is 1/4")."
Is this the best way to remove the Star Dryvins?
I use a modified crowbar under the hanger that splits the soft metal sleeve. It is not the easiest method but it is the only way I have removed that type of bolt.
Would the sleeve (flange) that is visible on the outside of the hanger need to be pounded down to gain access to the nail?
Anything on pulling those buggers would be a big help!
Mucci
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Clint Cummins
Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
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Josh,
Usually we use a crowbar to pull the nail (or more) on the Star-Dryvin, too.
Sometimes a tuning fork works, though.
I also like using penetrating oil between the nail and sleeve;
also between the sleeve and the rock.
Difficulty in pulling varies a lot, depending on how much the nail is rusted/bonded to the sleeve.
We were able to get most of them out on Lava Falls.
But on Fly-Bye and Plague, I think we only got one out of 4 (after much time trying);
so for the others we chiseled off the nail head and drilled a new hole nearby.
Using a lag screw/bolt to remove the lead sleeve is nice, but getting the nail out is the crux.
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mucci
Trad climber
The pitch of Bagalaar above you
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Thanks for the word Clint.
I have noticed that the heads pop off fairly easy if you go at it under the hanger.
Was a Star D, properly placed considered a "Good Bolt" for pinnacles? There sure are a bunch of them.
The few I have replaced came out intact and looked good, the nails were 1.75" or 2" I think and the sleeves were intact. Pretty soft sleeve material.
Mucci
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