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doughnutnational
Gym climber
hell
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Jun 28, 2008 - 01:57pm PT
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I just returned from a trip in the Florence lake area and my guess is those kids had a great time. I hope they spent some time bouldering and cragging as the area abounds with it. People at the Florence Lake told me that all the hikers were in good spirits and probably did not know they were subject of a large search (as pointed out earlier even geographical moron could have gotten to a road from there in at most a couple of days).
12 days in the backcountry is a long time. Hopefully long enough to open some eyes to what is really important and fun. Way better than 12 days playing video games. Bravo to the remaining instructor for keeping the kids happy and getting to Florence Lake on their own.
That being said not splitting the group or at least having more solid plans for reuniting would be important in the future.
PS the boy scouts had an incident near Wishon which required helicopter extraction of a boy scout who was trapped by a falling boulder (he was apparently unwilling to amputate his leg to get out) Anyone want to rip on them?
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Doug Robinson
Trad climber
Santa Cruz
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Jun 28, 2008 - 02:55pm PT
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Apogee, thanks for your insights and balanced treatment of the OB culture and risk management practices. Would you be willing to track this and alert us to the incident report when it's published?
As a guide myself, I'm curious and would like to learn from it. I used to guide Boy Scout trips into that area.
I've seen small separations escalate quickly in my own guiding. Usually just trail hiking, not technical, when I encourage or allow some or all my clients to take the lead on a trail or an easy descent. For them, the responsibility is often its own reward. Junctions, false trails, assumptions about what each other is doing, and suddenly you can't find each other. Low risk, but lots of uncertainty and some anxiety. An hour of that gets to be a long time; 3 days would be really hard.
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