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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Apr 28, 2008 - 03:52pm PT
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It seems Pretty obvious by the number of repete ascents that the BY is a great Classic. Do any of you think that we would even remember the name of the BY if it was so absurdly sketch that no one bothered to repete it? Would Southern Bell be remembered if Hank didn't get hurt on it?? Southern Bell has certainly gained a large part of its name recognition just from this thread. There Certainly are pleanty of death routs out there that just fade into oblivion.. Just a few more rusty 1/4 inchers stakeing claim to what could have been a great rout......
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Apr 28, 2008 - 03:57pm PT
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I think Knott!!
2000 posts would not take up over 1000 printed pages. Try again.
If I've read 1000 pages here, I'm ashamed at my use of time.
Of course I'm already a bit ashamed but over 1000 pages, no way
Peace
karl
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Roger Breedlove
climber
Cleveland Heights, Ohio
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Apr 28, 2008 - 04:09pm PT
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Hey, you guys better be careful.
P2K is powerful and potentially dangerous stuff. Aside from all the broken Window panes and traffic lights that signal green in all directions, bolts are likely to start popping out without provocation.
Posts will start disapearing and there is even talk of time reversing. Loose talk probably, but are you willing to take the chance?
Buzz
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Apr 28, 2008 - 04:14pm PT
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Roger that
I predict P2K will cause a computer abnormality where the thread will actually go back in time, back and forth, until someone with claims to bandwidth waste and idiocy occupies the post 2000 slot. Until that time, we face 20 to 40 posts of potential nonsense (like this one)
Only you can stop retro-posting!
Peace
karl
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Apr 28, 2008 - 04:17pm PT
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Hey! some of us are still argueing here so you wankers with the the fluff posts need STFU so we can ARGUE GOD DAMN IT!!!!
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Blowboarder
Boulder climber
Back in the mix
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Apr 28, 2008 - 04:21pm PT
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postcount ++
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couchmaster
climber
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Apr 28, 2008 - 04:29pm PT
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I will say, although when I started reading this, I felt and said that Yos has been and should continue to be a bastion of stylistic purity, ie bottom up climbing. However: I have to say, my thinking is changing as I read. Maybe it's the Karl™ influence.
Thinking of the difference between Southern Belle and GU, I don't know why you dudes feel so proud of Southern Belle. Ya got up it once Coz, and as you say now you're too scared to try it again. No one else even wants to try. So what? This young man Sean showed some heavy consideration of those who will follow him, and it took a lot of moxie hard work, time, skill and money to have done so. He could have banged in some cheap steel 1/4" bolts and been in and out quickly. Your calls for chopping seem to show a selfish self-absorbsion, your way only or the highway.
Did you do likewise on SB and consider others? No you just tried to get up it the easiest way possible and felt lucky to have done so once, you thought of yourself and f* everyone else eh? As Karl points out, what they generally call that is "selfish™ ", not proud.
Somehow you think GU as a ground up poundfest aid route which in turn would later be attempted free would be better. I think not, and accept Doug Robinson's explanation as not just viable but truthful and honest. This ain't the end of the world. You copping the route would be selfish beyond belief.
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BTW: I have not seen this addressed in the other few thousand posts yet: Is it ethical to read this from the top down or do you have to read only bottom up?
Post #1979 or so depending on how many get deleted.
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Norwegian
Trad climber
Placerville, California
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Apr 28, 2008 - 04:30pm PT
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ive been outta the loop for many many posts.
i thought some guy was promising to chop this route? did it happen. i recal a date in april when he was scheduled in the valley? hadn't he the balls?
this obsession with post count is very... critisizable. a minor celebration of man's folly.
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Matt
Trad climber
primordial soup
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Apr 28, 2008 - 04:37pm PT
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'member when walter payton was the 1st back to gain 10k yards?
he got the record-
then he got tackled for a loss-
then he got the record again, pretty funny.
so, how many of us will get the 2000th post?
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divad
Trad climber
wmass
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Apr 28, 2008 - 04:55pm PT
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Who cares who makes the 2,000th post or the 10,000th post? The proudest post, the one that drew the line in the sand, has already been made.
It was the first post.
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Apr 28, 2008 - 04:55pm PT
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Prediction: Matt will now post 30 - 40 junk posts in a row, to ensure he's bracketed P2K. No matter if a few get added or deleted, he's on the money.
And we haven't even yet really examined the style in which Karma was established. I mean, just because Ken had a bunged up leg is no excuse for an impure ascent involving jumaring and other awful sins. :-)
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Clint Cummins
Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
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Apr 28, 2008 - 04:56pm PT
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couchmaster (and others),
> Thinking of the difference between Southern Belle and GU, I don't know why you dudes feel so proud of Southern Belle. Ya got up it once Coz, and now you're too scared to try it again. No one else even wants to try. So what? This young man Sean showed some heavy consideration of those who follow him, and it took a lot of moxie hard work, time, skill and money to have done so.
> Did you do likewise on SB? No you just tried to get up it the easiest way possible and felt lucky to have done so once, you thought of yourself and f* eveyone else eh? What they call that "selfish™ ", not proud.
Sorry, but Coz can't be blamed for the runout nature of Southern Belle. Remember, Coz just did the FFA with Schultz. The FA (above p3) was done by Schultz and Shipley - they established its runout nature. Please look at the FA/FFA info. Shipley is no longer of this earth, and Schultz is probably too busy making $$ to post here....
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Loomis
climber
Lat/Lon: 35.64 -117.66
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Apr 28, 2008 - 05:02pm PT
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"The proudest post, the one that drew the line in the sand, has already been made "
The winds of time will fill that line and and the rest of the routes on SFHD, by hook or crook...
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Apr 28, 2008 - 05:07pm PT
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Clint wrote
"Sorry, but Coz can't be blamed for the runout nature of Southern Belle. Remember, Coz just did the FFA with Schultz. The FA (above p3) was done by Schultz and Shipley - they established its runout nature. Please look at the FA/FFA info. Shipley is no longer of this earth, and Schultz is probably too busy making $$ to post here...."
So now you're calling Coz a sideman in this drama? Who led which scary pitches? If we're going to get to post 3000 before the 4th ascent, we need to hook Shultz into the time-waste-vortex of internet climbing.
I will give Shultz credit for climbing the thing twice, but will also call him a selfish wiener so he can join the sausage-fest and flame be back.
Peace
Karl
Edit: TIG how do we know those aren't retro-boobs?
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Apr 28, 2008 - 05:11pm PT
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They may be rap-down boobs. I mean, look at those braids!
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Loomis
climber
Lat/Lon: 35.64 -117.66
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Apr 28, 2008 - 05:13pm PT
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I'll take the Euro girl over ethics any day, but of course I will drink the beers first.
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Apr 28, 2008 - 05:15pm PT
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Good point - there's two of them, and they ascend parallel to each other. I wonder how you can tell if they're 'up' or not?
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Apr 28, 2008 - 05:25pm PT
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The 1000th post is somewhat meaningless - if you were to remove all the Bullshít Filler Posts™,
we would still probably be under 1900 posts at this point. FWIW, Spencer rightfully got # 2000,
before Matt deleted the proper number of his BSFPs. Knott the best style, to say the least.
Congrats to Spencer for getting # 2000 - his legacy shall knott be forgotten!
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Mtnmun
Trad climber
Top of the Mountain Mun
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Apr 28, 2008 - 05:33pm PT
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bump
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Spencer Adkisson
Trad climber
Reno, NV
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Apr 28, 2008 - 05:36pm PT
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Hey thanks dude, it's a dubious honor. I'm sure I did less to deserve it than others here, but whatever.
I just want to say that I spent the first part of today observing and helping teach a first grade class up in Incline Village today, and being around kids and seeing what some of them are going through (six years old, dad in jail, mom no-speak engleis) does wonders for putting the whole kit and kaboodle in perspective. This dialouge is not meaningless, but but there are definitely more important things to consider in life. Having said that, I really, really enjoy watching the wheels go 'round. Have a great day everybody. =)
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