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Trad climber
Lee, NH
Apr 27, 2008 - 06:19pm PT
Mjolnir (also spelled Mjollnir) was the name of an enchanted hammer belonging to Thor,
the Norse thunder god. I secretly wondered whether Forrest thought of that name due to
its resurrection in the Marvel comic books. Naw, couldn't be.

Forrest's polygonal Mjollnir looked vaguely like the Marvel version, IMHO.

And neither looks much like the historical representations of Mjolnir.

Trad climber
Vacaville Ca,
Aug 2, 2008 - 01:50am PT
How did I miss this thread?

A bit of an old thread but one worth bumping to the top of the heap from time to time.

So, here ya go. Here's some stuff I've accumulated over the years from various sources. See if you can identify it. Some easy, some not so much.

First up, a mistery nut I have.
No visable markings on the nut. I thought It might be an old Chounard, but doesn't match any of my other old Chounard nuts.

Another mystery nut. This one looks to be pretty modern.

Some interesting cams made by Edelrid.

Mighty Hiker

Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Aug 2, 2008 - 01:58am PT
First nut (wedge) may be a MOAC. Pre-stoppers.

Trad climber
Vacaville Ca,
Aug 2, 2008 - 11:51am PT
Here's a "D" biner I bootied on a "not so well traveled" route in the Valley. Looked to have been there a while.

Next to a modern oval for size referance.
It's one of the biggest aluminum crabs I've seen.

Two old style Chouinard biners, just for fun.

Chicken Skinner

Trad climber
Aug 2, 2008 - 01:27pm PT

The first nut is a MOAC. They only came in one size.


Ice climber
New Hampshire
Oct 16, 2008 - 11:05pm PT
I had the honor of sorting through a big box of old climbing gear for my boss last summer. I started by just emptying the box and spreading it out, then taking a picture. Unfortunately this is the only one I have of most of the gear.
What I'm most curious about is the nuts in the bottom leftish of the picture they look like they're used in a similar way to a hex. It's like a normal nut with two nubs from each side. The nubs run the length of the nut, but it you were to hold the but in front of you, the nubs are offset vertically

Also of interest are the biners in the bottom right, to the left of the nuts. The biners have a bar that crosses their axis, and spins freely. When I asked about it I was told that they're for making a carabiner brake, but I could never ID who made them.

For the fun of it, you're more than welcome to try you hand at IDing anything else in the picture. I have closer pics of some things, so feel free to ask. Thanks go out to the nut museum, without them I never would have been able to identify as much as I did

Trad climber
Vacaville Ca,
Oct 17, 2008 - 12:33am PT
Those hexes are made by Clog I believe. I have a couple that are identical accept slung with cord. Early to mid 70's I believe. Not certain.

What the hell is that aluminum nut looking thing just above them?
nick d

Trad climber
Oct 17, 2008 - 12:38am PT
If we're looking at the same thing it is a Forrest PinBin? I think thats the right name.

edit: I don't think I'm looking at the same item!

Trad climber
Vacaville Ca,
Oct 17, 2008 - 12:42am PT
Not the pin bin, (though I was wondering about that too) the thingy just to the right. Looks like a square with some grooves and a hole in the top.

Oct 17, 2008 - 03:19am PT
Bonjour Basilisk & Salamanizer!

The nuts on the bottom left are Clog Cogs! The one alone just above them is also a Clog Cog, but it is pictured upside-down. These nuts hit the market in 1976 and had to be the serious British competitor for the Chouinard Hexentrics. In fact, unfortunately for Clog, they never became popular. The original sets consisted of the sizes 1 to 10. The sizes 1 to 5 were available either on wire or on rope; the sizes 6 to 10 were only available on rope. These five bigger sizes were too much heavy so, in a second generation (the ones on your photo), these sizes were made shorter, with two holes on the top, and just one hole on the bottom. The early longer sizes are rare…

If I had understood how to post a photo on this forum, I would have showed you a couple of good pics of these nuts…

The three blue hexes on the bottom are C.M.I. Hexachoks (no “c” before the “k”), made circa 1976.

Stephane / Nuts Museum

Ice climber
New Hampshire
Oct 17, 2008 - 11:29am PT
Hi Stephane, thanks a bunch for your email. Here's a copy of the pic you set me

The hexachoks are interesting too- I could never find any info on those. Never suspected they were that old. Are they the first anodized chock?

Trad climber
Oct 17, 2008 - 11:52am PT
Damn, those chocks don’t look used at all.

The Colorado nut is an awesome piece of gear. (this may have already been stated, didn’t read each post) However…

The “fins” will snap right off, if the nut is placed incorrectly.
scuffy b

On the dock in the dark
Oct 17, 2008 - 12:03pm PT
Not the first anodized chock, but maybe the first good anodized chock.
Dolt was anodizing chocks much earlier than this, spidernuts, trunuts, etc.
Most of his stuff didn't have a great shape.

Ice climber
New Hampshire
Oct 18, 2008 - 11:33pm PT
More goodies from Stéphane!

* Clog Cogs 2: The first advertisement for the Clog Cogs, published in Climber and Rambler in August 1976.

* CMI Hexachoks 1: CMI Hexachoks and Wired Hexachoks. The 2 wedges are prototype Wallnuts designed by CMI for Royal Robbins

Stéphane, any idea what's going on with that up-ended hexachok on the left? It looks like it's only been hollowed out halfway. Just a different design they were playing with?

On the Cog photo it mentions stacking, something I hadn't even thought of when I played with them. It sort of an early Bluewater CocoNut in that respect. Stacking nuts has really fallen off these days.

I gotta say, I am supremely jealous of all this info! Keep it coming please!

Ice climber
New Hampshire
Oct 20, 2008 - 12:32pm PT

"It is a real pleasure to “drive anybody mad” with all the info I can supply… so enjoy again!

The attached pic should answer your question about the CMI Hexachok. In fact all the Hexachoks were manufactured with a 1/8” web in the center. This page is an extract from the CMI catalog 1975!

If I am not mistaken, the Bluewater Coconuts were in fact made by the French company Simond in 1996 and known here as Camerocks. These nuts were never really popular in France. An earlier version of these nuts is the Simond Bicams (attached pic), made in 1986. The nuts with the red plastic sleeve can be stacked together, but not with the nuts with the blue plastic sleeve, and vice versa;


It's pretty interesting that "I-beam technology" was being implemented even back then. I thought that was just a recent thing, thus why DMM obsesses over it so much

I was just thinking it strange that the concave side of the nuts was on the outside, but I just noticed the coconuts did the same. In fact I can't think of any other way to do it aside from the modern concave/convex nuts.

The Coconuts/camrocks were never popular in the states either. Regardless, I was thrilled to come across an ad for them in an old guidebook to North Conway. I was even more thrilled when I found the units themselves last summer

Trad climber
Oct 20, 2008 - 12:39pm PT
Salamanizer (a few post back), they sure look a lot like


"The nut, that always get stuck!"

(because the bottom is rounded, there is no way to "hammer" at it, with your nut tool)

Basilisk...interesting drawings. Very nice.

Ice climber
New Hampshire
Oct 21, 2008 - 11:25am PT
Less Politics, more climbing history!

Stéphane is on a roll!

The original brochure for the camerocks:

And for the fun of it I scanned the ad in my Conway guidebook:

I also came across a Fish ad. Anyone know if there's a relation to the board favorite gear-maker?

And one more for Stéphane. I don't know if you collect ice gear, but This collection is largely unorganized:

The only one I know for sure is that Warthog second from the right. I have guesses one the rest, but it's up in the air. Got any clues?

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Oct 21, 2008 - 11:56am PT
I don't recall the names, but remember seeing all those ice screws out in the wild on folks racks at one point or another.


Trad climber
Oct 21, 2008 - 11:59am PT
into the "way back machine of my mind"


Trad climber
Chatham N.H.
Oct 21, 2008 - 12:02pm PT
The one on the right is a Lowe Snarg.Then the warthog.The black one dunno,but the clip in area looks a lot like some Salewa screws I have.The next is the Chouinard standard screw.The wire one might be a Simond,but not at all sure.
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