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Clint Cummins

Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
Oct 22, 2014 - 08:21pm PT
Base104, I already challenged you earlier,
to find an El Cap route besides the Muir that was freed ground up.
So you go first. :-)

Then maybe you can explain to me how your suggestion to rap bolt
slabs which you think do not have stances is related to how free routes
were done on El Cap which is not much of a slab.

The conflict of where and how bolts should be placed is ongoing.
Within ourselves, often.
This conflict did not disappear when rap bolting became accepted in
some areas in the US.
BASE104

Social climber
An Oil Field
Oct 23, 2014 - 09:31am PT
Clint,

You are the de facto historian of the valley, or at least you seem like it. I assume that you, if anyone, would know the particulars of El Cap free routes. You would know which free wall routes were worked, even to a small degree, from the top down.

I really don't want to get into a pissing match with you, but since you seem to hold opinions as well as history, when exactly is it OK to add a bolt either on aid or top down swinging around piecing together a route?
GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Oct 23, 2014 - 09:34am PT
I really don't want to get into a pissing match with you...


... but I will anyway because we need rules, dammit! HOW CAN WE CLIMB WITHOUT RULES?
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