john hansen
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Topic Author's Original Post - Jun 10, 2007 - 10:25pm PT
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Who drew the original lighting bolt ,and how has it been maintained thru the years. Yabo saw the route , Kauk climbed it. ..whats the story on the lighting bolt.
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The Warbler
climber
the edge of America
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Jun 10, 2007 - 10:31pm PT
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Probably Mike Graham. I remember him drawing those bolts all over the place at that time. Maybe Bachar or RK.
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WBraun
climber
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Jun 10, 2007 - 10:35pm PT
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Yabo drew it
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Jude Bischoff
Ice climber
Palm Springs
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Jun 10, 2007 - 10:35pm PT
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My daughter and I saw Lynn Hills first female ascent and on the same day a European climber did the first downclimb of Midnight Lightning.
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john hansen
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 10, 2007 - 10:39pm PT
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I'm glad Yabo drew it. If werner says it is so,, it is so.
He was there.
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WBraun
climber
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Jun 10, 2007 - 10:49pm PT
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Not that it's gospel truth that Yabo drew it John.
Could have been the others too.
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Russ Walling
Social climber
Out on the sand.... man.....
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Jun 10, 2007 - 10:51pm PT
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First down climb? Unlikely....
I go with Yabo or MG.
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Jude Bischoff
Ice climber
Palm Springs
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Jun 10, 2007 - 10:58pm PT
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I saw the downclimb in action, the guy sent it and then downclimbed it. Poetry in motion I might add.
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Chaz
Trad climber
So. Cal.
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Jun 10, 2007 - 10:59pm PT
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I had heard you were supposed to draw over the image with chalk after you failed to climb it.
Anyway, that's what I did after I *tried* it.
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Russ Walling
Social climber
Out on the sand.... man.....
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Jun 10, 2007 - 11:01pm PT
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Not to split the thread... but Lynne did the thing eons after it was originally done and what makes you think a Euro downclimb was the first? I've seen plenty of guys down climb the thing from the mantle.... so it is not much of a reach to believe it was downclimbed years before Lynne was there.
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Jude Bischoff
Ice climber
Palm Springs
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Jun 10, 2007 - 11:06pm PT
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Lynne made an announcement it was the first downclimb, but you could be perfectly correct. He did it from the top. And yes time wise, this was maybe 6 or 7 years ago.
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Russ Walling
Social climber
Out on the sand.... man.....
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Jun 10, 2007 - 11:09pm PT
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Hey Jude.... (killing myself with that one... sorry!)
Was this when Lynne was on a top rope? Or am I just mixing up an ascent or two...? The first time she did it is what you saw? Got any pics? That'd be cool....
As for the downclimb... I'm 98.587% positive she was mistaken about the Euro.
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Jude Bischoff
Ice climber
Palm Springs
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Jun 10, 2007 - 11:14pm PT
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Forgot my camera that day. Ron Kauk was taking the photo's from a ladder. I guess she practiced on top rope earlier in the day, but sent it after two falls.
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Russ Walling
Social climber
Out on the sand.... man.....
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Jun 10, 2007 - 11:16pm PT
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Crowley. Please try to control yourself. I know it is hard for you. You are not adding anything, once again, to this discussion between Jude and myself. So kindly, step back, relax, and fuk off.
Timeframe edit: I think Lynne did it in 1998 the first time.
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Russ Walling
Social climber
Out on the sand.... man.....
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Jun 10, 2007 - 11:23pm PT
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I've always wondered why the Park Service allows that obvious "graffiti" to stay??
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mojede
Trad climber
Butte, America
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Jun 10, 2007 - 11:27pm PT
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I'd guess that the Rangers viewed it as "removable", and it fell into that grey area--my .02.
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Jun 10, 2007 - 11:54pm PT
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It's not graffiti, it's a pictograph. A historic and cultural icon. Just like Camp 4 is a national historic site or whatever.
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Jun 11, 2007 - 05:21am PT
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If that's the case then half the routes in Joshua Tree would have my initials spray painted all over them.
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bachar
Trad climber
Mammoth Lakes, CA
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Jun 11, 2007 - 07:03am PT
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Werner has smoked too much hippie lettuce...
I drew the original bolt on Midnight Lightning....
Yabo indeed "found" the line first and had the vision to see that the problem was possible. He showed it to me and Ron - we thought there was about as much chance of doing it as there was the chance that a lightning bolt could strike at midnight (like in the Hendrix song 'Midnight Lightning") - so I drew a bolt on it in chalk....
That's it - pretty stupid huh?
Cheers, JB
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Tahoe climber
Trad climber
a dark-green forester out west
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Jun 11, 2007 - 07:54am PT
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That's crazy John!
Thanks for that!
Wow!
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