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Crimpergirl
Social climber
Hell on earth wondering what I did to deserve it
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Topic Author's Reply - May 1, 2007 - 10:59pm PT
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Agreed. I got one light tonight. Need to install. Nothing but thunderstorms/lighting all afternoon and evening.
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Wild Bill
climber
Ca
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No, don't save the money. IMO That would be false economy. Get a TRO to put this wierd situation 'into the system.' It's not an over-reaction because, well - YOU NEVER WANT THIS GUY AT YOUR HOUSE AGAIN AND HE'D HAVE NO LEGIT REASON TO BE THERE.
The cops who took the report will tell you his name/address. Or you may have to go to the station ot obtain a copy of whatever report was generated - which you should have a right to get.
Crimpie, listen: you were on this guy's mind. You may STILL be on his mind (since he hasn't been distracted by being beaten/shot/stung/burned yet). YOU want to forget about his visit, but he's still thinking about it. Maybe he figures things will go better next time because he'll be more sober, and won't have been up for two days tweaking. Yeah, just one more try.
You get my drift. Crimpie, some say you are just plain not a gun person. Some aren't. But likewise some folks are not dog people. And contrary to some silliness spouted above, a gun is WAY easier to learn and control than a dog. Cheaper by far, in terms of investing time and money.
I mean, what? - you bond with this dog, make him your pal and family member, and THEN you're going to send him out to do your dirty work of self-protection?! And you're going to open your door to do it?! Crazy on both counts. When the creep has a gun, your dog loses and so do you, because creep's not done yet.
I like THESE 'motion sensor lights'
Taurus 617 .357 seven-shot
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nita
climber
chico ca
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Don't forget your... bat and pepper-spray-foam..
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Shack
Big Wall climber
Reno NV
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For the same price as the restraining order...
(OK...a few dollars more)
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Ouch!
climber
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I once saw a study of people who bought guns because they were frightened. Some stuck them in a drawer and seemed to gain confidence and take comfort in the availability. A few sat around playing with them, hoping for something to happen so they could use them. This latter group would make me nervous to have for neighbors.
Seems to me respect for guns varies greatly between people who grew up with guns and see what they can do to large animals and people and those who suddenly got them as adults.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Nobody would dare consider breaking into Ouch's place because they'd be afraid of what he could do to them in a taco picture.
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Chaz
Trad climber
So. Cal.
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Ron writes:
"Nobody would dare consider breaking into Ouch's place because they'd be afraid of what he could do to them in a taco picture."
That, and Bear 46 has Ouch!'s back.
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RRK
Trad climber
Talladega, Al
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never mind a restraining order. Check with the police about a trespass citation or warrant - anything to get his name in the books. Most places you will have to swear the warrant and then attend the trial but it shouldn't cost anything. Your incident could in fact be a recurrence of what would otherwise be viewed as aberrant and uncharacteristic behavior on the part of young Romeo. He may also be encouraged to repeat if he doesn't get a kick in the nuts right now (we call that "avoidance conditioning" down here.)
Agree with the comments on the false sense of security in just possessing a weapon. It's just one tool in the box and you really really need to be comfortable with it. Did you buy a rack and immediately start climbing 5.11 trad? If so then give me a call 'cause I need a rope-gun. The most effective non-lethal tool is your telephone - as you have discovered. That being said I reiterate - go with the 12 ga for the last line of defense in your home - load with #1 or #2 for lots of stopping power and plenty of allowance for aiming error.
RRK
BTW those motion sensors can be rigged to activate all sorts of bells and whistles inside the house in case you are a sound sleeper. You'll likely need the services of a local killi-watter to hook up the more complex arrangements.
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jstan
climber
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I have to weigh in with OUCH! on this one. We used to butcher regularly when I was a kid. When the time comes to pull a trigger and kill all you can think of is how irretrievable the action will be. If you are pointing a gun at a creature who knows they have one half a second to act, you don’t have the time to ponder irretrievability. Clearly guns can have their time and place. But such a decision rests on a person being fully intentioned, prepared legally and emotionally, and thoroughly trained. All of which can and should be done when the situation warrants.
A further comment on this public forum discussion. Imagine the worst has come to pass and somebody’s lawyer needs to show another person’s intention. Does an extended public discussion such as this help matters?
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AbeFrohman
Trad climber
new york, NY
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Where can one get one of those bean bag cannons??
perhaps its just coincidence that you knew him.
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Crimpergirl
Social climber
Hell on earth wondering what I did to deserve it
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Topic Author's Reply - May 2, 2007 - 03:00pm PT
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*begin dork alert*
The evidence is very clear that females are overwhelmingly victimized by someone they know. That is part of what makes this incident totally unremarkable. Men are victimized about 50/50 by strangers versus known assailants.
*/end dork alert*
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AbeFrohman
Trad climber
new york, NY
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well im sorry to hear that. should have thrown a lamp at him.
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