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WBraun
climber
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Dec 22, 2018 - 06:15pm PT
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Oh mann ... that sounds so horrible .....
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Dec 22, 2018 - 08:04pm PT
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Horrible is catching panty waist hunters on my wood sale...
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Tobia
Social climber
Denial
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Dec 23, 2018 - 07:23am PT
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Grizzly scenario Reilly. Chainsaws are killers, even with all the
protective gear like chaps, sleeves, Kevlar topped boots, helmets with screens, etc.
RJ, I have to wonder why you have such disdain for hunters, is it the idea of it or just some ill mannered poacher type that you have a grub with?
I have used chainsaws since I was a kid, although it was limited to a 16 inch Homelite under my dad's direct supervision.
I learned the art of chainsawing in the forestry business which is so different in this part of the country when compared to the great NW.
Logging crews don't use the complicated system that Mastadon and the Chief talk about. Here the the terrain is flat with rolling hills some are called mountains). We are at the tail end of the Appalachian Mountains, known as the Piedmont.
In my time in forestry business the chainsaw was used on trees too big for the feller bunchers (giant machines with a diamond tooth blade close to the ground and hydraulic arms that wrapped around the tree), once cut at the
stump the operator would move to the next tree open up the arms and cut another, bunching the trees together and laying them down in neat piles for the skidder to pick up and drag to the iron de-limber gate, utilized by backing the skidder's load into the the gate several times removing most of the limbs.
Chainsaws were used to cut and limb the big oaks.
The skidder would drop the bunch next to a knuckle boom loader who sorted
the wood for loading on trailers into three piles - pulp wood, saw timber (lumber) and veneer logs (few) if any. As he sorted them he would pull the trees through one last de-limber that hydraulically pressed hardened rollers against the tree, grinding away remaining limbs.
The chainsaw was used to "limb up" the loaded trailers to free them of any thing hanging outside the bolsters. The pole saw eventually replaced the chainsaw for this job as it was much safer and quicker.
It wasn't always that mechanized, but I will save that for now.
I wear chaps the majority of the time, I will get lazy and not don them
when using a little limbing saw for a single cut or two. It is amazes me
how hot chaps are in the summer. I started wearing shorts instead of long pants to keep from overheating. I find the upper body protective wear to cumbersome and and overkill for cutting up storm wood for firewood and felling dead trees.
Bow saws were ruled unsafe by OSHA in the mid-90's. They can be bit unruly but are the best way to cut up logs on the ground. No kneeling or bending.
It is much easier for me to use a bow saw than to bend over. I bought a few
bows for spares before they became hard to find.
I have had to give up most saw work due to back issues, this is the second year in the past 30 I haven't cut firewood for myself and for the marketplace.
It is pleasurable work, nothing like a filling up the wood racks for seasoning, I doubt I will ever sell wood again but hope to be able to gather enough each year to heat the house.
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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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Dec 23, 2018 - 08:34am PT
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Hey now! 10k divided by 60 trees is $167 per tree. Not such a ripoff if your labor is worth something.
I got one of those knee smiles. Super clean slice. I sharpen by hand.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Dec 23, 2018 - 08:48am PT
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Tobia....No disdain for hunters here though maybe i should have some..Wooders rule , hunters suck is graffitti a friend and i saw becoming part of the folklore...
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FRUMY
Trad climber
Bishop,CA
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Dec 23, 2018 - 08:58am PT
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I have a good friend that took is right eye out with a chainsaw. Didn't do the rest of his face much good either.
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Tobia
Social climber
Denial
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Dec 23, 2018 - 05:37pm PT
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RJ, understood and thanks for the explanation.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Dec 23, 2018 - 06:08pm PT
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I had an old XL12 that my dad got at a yard sale for $15.00 Really loud saw compared to todays saws. It had a real pop to it. Summertime, I was about 20ys old bucking up firewood with no shirt on. Pretty ripped. Some flatlanders stopped their station wagon in my driveway and let their little mop dog out to pee and it started pooping right in the middle of my driveway. I started walking slowly twords them curling the saw one handed and gunning it. They scooped up the little rat with half a turd still hanging out its butt, jumped in the station wagon and peeled out of there. I thought that was hilarious at the time.
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ionlyski
Trad climber
Polebridge, Montana
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Dec 23, 2018 - 11:07pm PT
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Tradman I want your truck.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Dec 24, 2018 - 04:01am PT
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not a chance! If I win the lottery I would have the entire thing rebuilt but would keep the patina. I hate shiny trucks. I went to climb in the bed of my bosses fancy Toyota and stepped on the hub of his stupid aftermarket wheels. The plastic hub broke and he got all bent trying to tell me your supposed to stand on the tire not the hub when climbing into the back of a truck. I told him I have been climbing in the back of trucks for well over 50 years and ain't never had a damn wheel break...
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Dec 24, 2018 - 05:19am PT
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In a perfect world She would have the entire drive train in perfect Woking order with a rebuilt 292 but still looking bad ass and rough on the outside.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Dec 24, 2018 - 05:22am PT
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Steve. That is an amazing project !
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otisdog
Social climber
Sierra Madre, Ca.
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Dec 24, 2018 - 06:36am PT
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To say I had a hard-ass for a father would be a bit of an understatement.
My grandmother ran a boarding house type of operation near Crowley Lake for fisher people. Every Memorial Day, I took the Greyhound from LA to Tom's Place, where she picked me up in her '62 F-150. I spent the summer splitting and stacking the cured wood that I had cut the previous year, and cutting more for the next year. McCulloch chain saws. That, and fishing Hot Creek on just about a daily basis.
It was an awesome escape from the old man. Come Labor Day, which I dreaded, it was time to Greyhound back. Chainsawing and splitting still takes me back to those blissful summers, and I enjoy it now as much as I did then. I probably should burn some of those cords!
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Dec 24, 2018 - 06:40am PT
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What was grandmas name...?
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Chief
climber
The NW edge of The Hudson Bay
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Dec 24, 2018 - 10:37am PT
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Some Canadian chain saw culture
https://youtu.be/F-glHAzXi_M
(If someone can tell me how to post the video rather than the link that would help.)
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Tobia
Social climber
Denial
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Dec 27, 2018 - 12:45pm PT
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Chief, like this:
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ontheedgeandscaredtodeath
Social climber
Wilds of New Mexico
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Dec 27, 2018 - 01:15pm PT
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Doing some saw work. Middle Eel Wilderness.
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otisdog
Social climber
Sierra Madre, Ca.
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Dec 27, 2018 - 06:36pm PT
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RottingJ.....
Evelyn Zerby...I'm thinking it was before your time. There were was 12 houses on Hilton drive, and "Crowley Lake" consisted of the trailer park & store...
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otisdog
Social climber
Sierra Madre, Ca.
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Dec 27, 2018 - 06:40pm PT
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Ontheedge- Stihls legal in the wilderness?
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Dec 27, 2018 - 06:44pm PT
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Zerby rings a bell...Before my time though...I know this local , Jeff , who's related to Tom of Tom's place...
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