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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Topic Author's Original Post - Dec 13, 2018 - 06:50am PT
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Circling the Dwain is an example. Posters get off topic on OT threads and they achieve a life of their own which often isn’t very pretty.
Climbing threads (the original purpose of ST...duh) keep people more focused and on topic but, alas, they seem too boring for this crowd.
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mtnyoung
Trad climber
Twain Harte, California
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Dec 13, 2018 - 06:57am PT
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I'm not sure that "boring" is the right word, Jim. I'd say "diverse."
One of the fun things about this forum is that the conversation isn't just about one topic (climbing). It's much more diverse. I like it.
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MH2
Boulder climber
Andy Cairns
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Dec 13, 2018 - 07:42am PT
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One should be choosy when picking which threads to look at. Some good stuff will be missed but so will almost all the bad.
A good rule is to only look at threads by posters you have learned to trust.
I'm having my doubts about this donini guy, now. He was so good.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Dec 13, 2018 - 09:25am PT
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Dec 13, 2018 - 09:37am PT
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Has JD been deputized by the OT PoPo?
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Dec 13, 2018 - 09:49am PT
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Yeah, we need to keep this about climbing, not camper vans!
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Don Paul
Social climber
Washington DC
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Dec 13, 2018 - 10:04am PT
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I come here to read the climbing stories, but there just aren't that many of them. For other subjects, the opinions of the fearless climbers are always interesting. As are the opinions of people who live in their cars.
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Mike Friedrichs
Sport climber
City of Salt
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Dec 13, 2018 - 10:20am PT
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What constitutes a "climbing topic?" Is climate change off topic? I certainly don't think it is. What about social conditions that allow for more disadvantaged people to have opportunities to climb? Is that off topic? Access, affordability, communication, leisure time, advocacy, mentorship are all solidly on topic as far as I am concerned.
I don't think it's the topic that throws these threads off the rails. Rather it's the inability of certain people to think critically. What did Cosmic ever contribute? Some may think that he is a good person (I think he is a bigot), but what did he ever post that was thought provoking in any way? I won't miss him.
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Jim Clipper
climber
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Dec 13, 2018 - 10:57am PT
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Anti. I spent some formative years in Apple Valley. Mom and Uncles went to VVHS when the ville housed around 6k people. When the major employer was the man who ran the nearby military bases.
If I went back, I'd probably agree, but my tribal nature makes me take exception to criticisms of white collar climbing. Where else do you go to shoot guns, meth, and sport climb from the tailgate on your truck? *
The desert really can pretty up, but it all comes back slowly it seems.
*all at once
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Trump
climber
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Dec 13, 2018 - 12:17pm PT
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Nicely said.
For me, I’m glad that we all have the free will to create something like this thread, despite it being likely to turn out not pretty, while also commenting on the duh-ness in other people’s thinking, if that’s what you, for example, choose to do.
How we choose to use it - that’s on us.
Seems like maybe there’s some commonalities in how we choose to use it, that maybe we’d prefer not to notice in ourselves, while also calling attention to it in other people?
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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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Dec 13, 2018 - 01:17pm PT
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I went climbing with Cosmic a few years back near Apple Valley, and had a great day with him. In person he is mellow, kind, somewhat taciturn. At least on that one and only day I hung out with him.
I must say I do like the in-person persona more than the online! But hey, we each come here for our own reasons, to get our own type of fix whatever that might be, and nobody else can change whatever that is for each of us.
For me, the bar on banning people would be pretty high. I just skim over the gutter conversations and it doesn't really register- sort of an internal grease monkey thing.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Dec 13, 2018 - 09:45pm PT
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I only seem to get dog sweater ads
Maybe I need to get out more?
On the OTHER hand
Every Picture tells a Story Don't It
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johntp
Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
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Dec 13, 2018 - 11:49pm PT
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One of the fun things about this forum is that the conversation isn't just about one topic (climbing). It's much more diverse. I like it.
Yup. We are fortunate to have a crowd here that has been in situations most can't imagine. Whatever is on your mind or problem you have, someone here can relate.
It is a campfire. People that have done incredible things just trading stories and thoughts.
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MH2
Boulder climber
Andy Cairns
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Dec 14, 2018 - 07:17am PT
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The Google Eye is quite perceptive.
While we are off-topic, I find that Google can be quirky, inscrutable, or just guessing wildly. Here are the 2 choices it filled in for me after I entered "level of c".
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Winemaker
Sport climber
Yakima, WA
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Dec 14, 2018 - 07:34am PT
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Hey Ghost, I thought Donini was a Malbec man. Is that at your new digs?
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Dec 14, 2018 - 08:49am PT
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I got these on the mh2 text entry
..Curriculum
..Change
..Criteria
..Chat bots and intelligent conversational agents
..Credability
And
I got a buy Moke ad today
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hooblie
climber
from out where the anecdotes roam
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Dec 14, 2018 - 09:41am PT
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yes, tossing a fresh topic into a forum full of monkeys
[Click to View YouTube Video]
is predictably unpredictable
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Adventurer
Mountain climber
Virginia
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Dec 14, 2018 - 10:17am PT
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Looks like the direction this thread took has made the point raised by donini in his original post!!
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Dec 14, 2018 - 10:20am PT
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Donini
Is this an experiment? Are you counting the unintended or hidden intended consequences of this thread?
^^^^^^
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steveA
Trad climber
Wolfeboro, NH
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Dec 14, 2018 - 10:37am PT
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Another thought provoking thread initiated by JD.
Jim-are you still in Colorado?
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chipper_shredder
Social climber
outinthecuts
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Dec 14, 2018 - 11:06am PT
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SO....this is an OT thread....about how there shouldn't be OT threads,
Because OT threads tend to go OT
did I miss anything ?
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Dec 14, 2018 - 11:22am PT
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Dec 14, 2018 - 11:44am PT
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Look at the hand position of the Troll. Someone has stolen it's guns.
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Adventurer
Mountain climber
Virginia
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Dec 14, 2018 - 02:43pm PT
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A big +1 on couchmaster’s recommendation of a Sig Sauer P226. Very reliable gun.
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couchmaster
climber
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Dec 14, 2018 - 02:57pm PT
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Yeah - that was Toms suggestion from that 2016 link. I have several of them. They made a bunch of versions including a 6" long model directed for target shooting. (The P226 X6).
If you buy one stamped "West Germany" that isn't rusted, you'll be happy. You can get @ 5000 rounds through before they suggest changing the upper spring out. These things are like the energizer bunny......
I waited till the kids were grown up till I bought them, figure $ priority's would be the kids first. Once I saw that their college and all that was taken care of, I jumped onboard. Back when I was in the Army I had lusted after a well tuned up Colt 1911, the ones I shot in the army were total sh#t for accuracy, most likely having gone through WW2 and multiple other folks they were worn out. So I bought some high end 1911's (Wilson and a Les Baer) but found I liked my Sig Sauer Earnest Langdon P220 I'd bought used much better than either and it was cheaper too. That led to the P226 for 9mm, the basic pistol is identical except in 9mm.
With the 1911's, they have a safety you flip off to fire it, call that single action (SA). The Sigs can come that way but commonly they are DA/SA (Dual action first round then SA). There isn't a safety, in it's place is a harder first pull to get the round off. It's still safe, lots of police carry them loaded and stuffed into a holster, but it's easy to pull and fire.
Mostly I just like to shoot. Like people like to bowl. Except around here you can link a shooting trip in with a climbing or hiking trip (if you chose your location well) and you can't do that with a bowling trip. I don't need them for self defense, although once at 3am with only my underwear on, while chasing a guy down the cold dark street who had tried to break into our house, I was reconsidering that policy....Of course, the bright side is that the policewoman who showed up first could be relaxed as she could clearly see I was "unarmed" so to speak, standing there talking to her all but near naked in my skimpy skintight briefs.
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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Dec 14, 2018 - 03:02pm PT
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oops, we were talking pseudophalli, anyway
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Dec 14, 2018 - 03:12pm PT
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I have a 226, but it is a bit much to carry.
Sig 938 is the best compact 9mm.
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couchmaster
climber
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Dec 14, 2018 - 03:16pm PT
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I don't carry. I know folks who do carry a P226 and it's big like Ron says. The new P365 is suppose to be tight little package. I have a little Ruger for those few rare times I want something hidden but on me. Haven't needed it yet.
If you want to carry, the Glock G19 is most likely the most common carry pistol in the country. The G26 is great as well. You know, we could start up that other thread, there are over 200 posts on it. http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=2839046&tn=0&mr=0
Funny but my first post over there calls out Piton Ron for not showing up first with his usual good advise:-) .
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Dec 14, 2018 - 03:25pm PT
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G19 is still a bit much.
I only carry mine (all tricked out of course) when I carry a 9mm carbine that takes Glock mags.
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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Dec 14, 2018 - 03:30pm PT
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Pussies sure do love pistols.
-donini
speaking of, can we get a donini aphorism thread goin' here?
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johntp
Trad climber
Little Rock and Loving It
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Dec 14, 2018 - 06:22pm PT
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Mill Valley, Ca
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Dec 14, 2018 - 07:33pm PT
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I’ve been known to carry on occasion. This pic was a real hit on Tinder:
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Dec 14, 2018 - 07:52pm PT
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Sig 938 is the best compact 9mm.
The 938 is a poorly repackaged colt mustang which is a design intended for .380 acp.. I had high hopes.
Sig 'repaired' mine like 9 times. Two new frames.
The two piece guide rod is a fatal flaw.
Put a couple thousand down the pipe before you trust it.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Dec 15, 2018 - 02:07pm PT
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Well I had a Mustang that was worthless jamarama.
Had nothing but luck with the 938. Did side by side with Taurus Millennium, Kimber Solo, Sig 239, Glock 43, Ruger 9 + LCP, and Kahr.
The slide stop on the Solo broke on the first shot.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Dec 15, 2018 - 02:41pm PT
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Pretty morbid Gary. Lets not forget hot cars and drowning.
You will never prevent stupidity.
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Dec 15, 2018 - 03:23pm PT
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Sometimes you have to wonder if stupidity isn't the basic building block of the universe.
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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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Dec 15, 2018 - 03:57pm PT
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So much toxic pusstulinty.
Why would anyone care if Darwin calls his children home? Morbidity is universal
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Dec 16, 2018 - 02:11am PT
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Xmas pistol?
To keep fat guys out of your chimney?
Didn’t that Donini guy used to post about climbing?
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Dec 16, 2018 - 10:41am PT
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But apparently OT threads offer me reassurance that I can go to Tel Aviv with a clear conscience .
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