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Trad climber
Twain Harte, California
Dec 7, 2018 - 01:38pm PT
So far... so far.

The Wastelands
Dec 7, 2018 - 01:38pm PT
number of times President Trump has served time for obstruction of justice - zero

two can play that game

Trad climber
Dec 7, 2018 - 02:23pm PT
New SDNY Cohen filing: "Cohen acted with the intent to influence the 2016 presidential election [by committing campaign finance crimes] ... Cohen himself has now admitted, with respect to both payments, he acted in coordination with and at the direction of Individual-1."


I guess DT is just going to say "Well, of course I knew. I mean....duh." or something.

Of course, paying of the women isn't "Russia," but so far Trump has been pretty much confirmed at lying about every accusation. Why would "Russia" be different? I mean - didn't anyone read the story of "The Boy Who Cried Wolf?"

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 7, 2018 - 02:29pm PT
Did somebody say Flight Tracker?
Got yer Flight Tracker right here, braj!

It’s the latest release!

Dec 7, 2018 - 02:49pm PT
Ha ha. Well, put that time to good use and go to the terminal store that sells glue and get some to sniff!

Trad climber
Dec 7, 2018 - 03:47pm PT
Back on topic, this ship is sinking. The rats are always the first to realize this... except, maybe Biggie Rat..

Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Dec 7, 2018 - 04:01pm PT
I don't see EdwardT as a raving Trump fan so much as enjoying pushing the buttons of anyone he thinks is on the Left.

Sport climber
Yakima, WA
Dec 7, 2018 - 04:18pm PT
Totally clears the President. Thank you!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 7, 2018

Trump re latest filings. Thank god it's over!!!!

Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
Dec 7, 2018 - 04:40pm PT
Thanks for this page of opinion.


state of being
Dec 7, 2018 - 05:51pm PT
The Mueller investigation has already been an outstanding success.

Sport climber
Yakima, WA
Dec 7, 2018 - 09:53pm PT
From the New York Times:

In crediting Mr. Cohen with providing “substantial and significant efforts” to assist the investigation, Mr. Mueller’s separate sentencing memo details new evidence of collusion with Russia, including a previously unreported phone conversation in November 2015 between Mr. Cohen and an unnamed Russian who claimed to be a “trusted person” in Moscow. The Russian explained to Mr. Cohen how the Russian government could provide the Trump campaign with “political synergy” and “synergy on a government level,” and offered to set up a meeting between Mr. Trump, then a candidate for the Republican presidential nomination, and President Vladimir Putin of Russia.



Sport climber
Yakima, WA
Dec 7, 2018 - 09:58pm PT
QuoteThe special counsel focuses on Mr. Cohen’s contacts with people connected to the White House in 2017 and 2018, possibly further implicating the president and others in his orbit in conspiracy to obstruct justice or to suborn perjury. Mr. Mueller specifically mentions that Mr. Cohen provided invaluable insight into the “preparing and circulating” of his testimony to Congress — and if others, including the president, knew about the false testimony or encouraged it in any way, they would be at substantial legal risk.

Mr. Trump’s legal woes do not end there. The special counsel also advanced the president’s potential exposure under the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act for activities relating to a potential Trump Tower Moscow. Mr. Mueller noted that the Moscow project was a lucrative business opportunity that actively sought Russian government approval, and that the unnamed Russian told Mr. Cohen that there was “no bigger warranty in any project than the consent” of Mr. Putin. Here


Dec 8, 2018 - 09:04am PT
divad wrote: “the ship is sinking. The rats are always the first to realize this...”

so far the best recent entertainment value for me, in this whole slow motion shIt carrying train wreck, has been two things:

the first is, as per the above quote, watching the rats, scurry across the deck proving beyond a shadow of a doubt their own nature and the degree to which the ship is tilting... so far the ones i’ve read about are, in no particular order:

tucker carlson: on donald trump he told a swiss magazine that, “I don’t think he’s capable of sustained focus. I don’t think he understands the system. I don’t think the Congress is on his side. I don’t think his own agencies support him.” followed up by saying that in order to pass legislation, “you really have to understand how it works and you have to be very focused on getting it done, and he knows very little about the legislative process, hasn’t learned anything, and surrounded himself with people that can get it done, hasn’t done all the things you need to do so. It’s mostly his fault that he hasn’t achieved those things,”

rex tillerson: "When the President would say, 'Here's what I want to do and here's how I want to do it.' And I'd have to say to him, 'Well Mr. President, I understand what you want to do, but you can't do it that way. It violates the law. It violates treaty.” He went on to add, "He got really frustrated ... I think he grew tired of me being the guy every day that told him you can't do that and let's talk about what we can do." followed further by “it was challenging for me" to move from a "disciplined, highly-process oriented" corporation to work for a man "who is pretty undisciplined, doesn't like to read, doesn't read briefing reports, doesn't like to get into the details of a lot of things."

rudy giuliani: “Answering those questions was a nightmare, it took him about three weeks to do what would normally take two days.” followed up with “The more controlled a person is, the more intelligent they are, the more they can make the decision. But he’s just like every other client. He’s not more … you know, controlled than any other client. In fact, he’s a little less.”

john kelly: the guardian is reporting kelly was interviewed by mueller’s team, contra to the intentions of the trump team, and that due to this kelly and trump are no longer on speaking terms and kelly is expected to quit “in the coming days”.

michael flynn: it is now being reported that flynn sat for 19 interviews with mueller’s team and due to this it is being recommended that he not receive jail time. hmmmm...

my other favourite part in all of this is trying to guess what donald trump’s “I am not a crook” quote, contributed to the annals of american history, is going to be... so far we have at least the following vying for contention:

“very stable genius...like, really smart”

“very legal and very cool”

“Totally clears the President. Thank you!”


but i think my favourite is still the classic, tried and true:

"No puppet. No puppet. You're the puppet. No, you're the puppet."

i honestly don’t know whether to laugh or cry through all of this...

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Dec 8, 2018 - 09:22am PT
Im betting Putin is getting some good laughs out of the prank of he century....Will the pee tapes end up on utube...?

Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
Dec 8, 2018 - 10:49am PT

Sport climber
Yakima, WA
Dec 8, 2018 - 12:26pm PT
WTF? Must be time for a nap or his meds....

Watched Da Nang Dick Blumenthal on television spewing facts almost as accurate as his bravery in Vietnam (which he never saw). As the bullets whizzed by Da Nang Dicks head, as he was saving soldiers….

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 8, 2018

….left and right, he then woke up from his dream screaming that HE LIED. Next time I go to Vietnam I will ask “the Dick” to travel with me!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 8, 2018

Blumenthal is the senior Democrat on the Senate Judiciary Committee.

Dec 8, 2018 - 03:10pm PT
Does anyone think those kind of endless stream of consciousness outbursts are good for the country?

Social climber
Sierra Madre, Ca.
Dec 8, 2018 - 03:44pm PT
Bone spur drafter dodger has truly lost it...as if he has any right to criticize any one about their military service. It's not irony, it's insanity...

The Good Places
Dec 8, 2018 - 04:14pm PT
I am kinda hoping Trump orders full military ground invasion in search for missing man on long's Peak in response to direct appeals from missing man's family

Sport climber
Yakima, WA
Dec 8, 2018 - 05:29pm PT
I just updated my GoFundMe campaign to include a visit to help Joe Biden not run!!! You can see the exciting details here:


Thanks for your support!!!! We are 0.2% of the way there! Cosmic, you little devil you, I know you're lurking!!! How about another donation? Thanks in advance!
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