Food strategy for car-to-car w/ naps in black bear country?

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Bargainhunter

climber
Oct 9, 2018 - 08:00pm PT
I read Bob Burd's car to car ascent in a day of Black Kaweah and my eyes bulged out of my head. Then I read Leor Pantilat cut another 4.5 hours off his time and and scooped the FKT at 15.5 hours. Holy sh#t. That's a LONG way in and a LONG way up and LONG way down and out. 15 hours? WTF! Rumor has it that Bob Burd hates camping, hence he does all of his peak bagging in a day.
limpingcrab

Trad climber
the middle of CA
Oct 9, 2018 - 08:25pm PT
Not advice but just my experiences up in that area: Iíve slept with food many times in that region and only once had a bear wake me up,, but that was at the popular Charlotte creek campsite.

I bet you can dayhike Farquhar without a nap. Itís a nice steady climb with good trails most of the way.

If youíre in Kings this weekend and see a dude with a wife and two little blond kids come say hi!
HermitMaster

Social climber
my abode
Oct 9, 2018 - 08:38pm PT
Credit: HermitMaster
seano

Mountain climber
none
Oct 9, 2018 - 08:43pm PT
Rumor has it that Bob Burd hates camping...
I have seen him camping first-hand -- it seems even Bob can get tired of grinding out the Big Arroyo approach by headlamp.
AntiChrist

Gym climber
Urth
Oct 9, 2018 - 08:48pm PT
Put your food in a LOKSAK OPSAK Odor-Proof Barrier Bag.

You putchur weed in there!
skywalker1

Trad climber
co
Oct 9, 2018 - 10:29pm PT
For me I wouldn't worry too much about the bears. If I Im' correct in your thinking of a long thing. Below tree line just dawn a puffy and some thing soft for your head and sleep off the trail a bit. I doubt you'll have any issues really.

S....
Lituya

Mountain climber
Oct 9, 2018 - 10:45pm PT
NutAgain, you're demonstrating the urban stereotype as someone else already mentioned here. Over this season alone, hiking and climbing here in WA, I've probably seen about a dozen black bear. Hundreds over the years. They are a non-issue; live and let live. Respect their space, simple as that. Not trying to be too hard on a sincere inquiry, but you should reevaluate your urban mindset--about bears and more! ;-)
Nkane

Trad climber
San Francisco, USA
Oct 10, 2018 - 11:57am PT
Bears hate racists too, Reilly.
Risk

Mountain climber
Marooned, 855 miles from Tuolumne Meadows
Oct 10, 2018 - 01:37pm PT
If you're at or below Sphinx Lakes, bears could be a problem. As I recall, areas above Sphinx Lakes are either too steep for bears or are boulder fields. Some of the boulder fields on the way to Brewer have rocks the size of Volkswagens! Bears aren't generally going to go up into those boulder fields or scree slopes.
NutAgain!

Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 10, 2018 - 02:47pm PT
I probably won't lose sleep over being an urbanite mountain-interloper cliche. We all have different sets of opportunities and trade-offs around which we make our life decisions. But I might lose some sleep if I shiver bivy!

At this point, I am focusing on East Ridge of Mt Gardiner via Kearsarge Pass (Onion Valley). Likely it's too much for my present conditioning, but the only way to tell is to get out there and give myself enough time to keep moving ;)
limpingcrab

Trad climber
the middle of CA
Oct 10, 2018 - 02:55pm PT
Traitor!

West side is the best side!!!
Delhi Dog

climber
Good Question...
Oct 10, 2018 - 07:57pm PT
Bears aren't generally going to go up into those boulder fields or scree slopes

Scree, boulders...bears
Scree, boulders...bears
Credit: Delhi Dog
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Oct 11, 2018 - 06:56am PT
The bear that followed me up the east side of Shepherd Pass didn't seem to mind, snow, scree, or steep.
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
Oct 11, 2018 - 07:22am PT
Ricky B response is right. Flannel wearing subaru drivers are risky!!! Lol

Crab is right tho. West siiiiiiiiiide!
Risk

Mountain climber
Marooned, 855 miles from Tuolumne Meadows
Oct 11, 2018 - 08:12am PT
Over this season alone, hiking and climbing here in WA, I've probably seen about a dozen black bear.

Bears in Kings Canyon behave much differently than WA bears.

urban mindset

What the hell is that? Where do you live, Forks?

Delhi Dog, where is that? Sierra? what elevation? That turf of grass makes me ask. Sure ain't Agassiz Col!
NutAgain!

Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 11, 2018 - 09:31am PT
Seriously though, westside folks are just jelly because they have to hike so far to get above treeline. That said, I will stipulate that it is might nice hiking through the beautiful forests and flower-filled meadows.
Scott Thelen

Trad climber
Truckee, Ca
Oct 11, 2018 - 12:11pm PT
Have fun out there! That peak is deep.
Canít wait for the city slicker trip report.
Keep an eye out for big horn sheep.
Malemute

Ice climber
great white north
Oct 11, 2018 - 08:12pm PT
Take vegan food and the bears will turn up their nose at yur stuff.
Batrock

Trad climber
Burbank
Oct 12, 2018 - 08:26am PT
Ive read that in addition to peeing around where you sleep you can smear yourself with your own feces. Just remember that if smearing on with toilet paper to either burn the toilet paper or pack it out. Best practice is just to use a smooth rock.
Dingus Milktoast

Trad climber
Minister of Moderation, Fatcrackistan
Oct 12, 2018 - 08:42am PT
Just keep a pet chupacabra.... bears will no longer be a concern.

DMT
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