Boy Injured In Flagstaff - was using non-climbing biners

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clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
Sep 12, 2018 - 07:09am PT

I wonder if the rope was purchased at the same place as biners?
If the biners had been rated, the rope instead may have snapped.
A Essex

climber
Sep 12, 2018 - 08:12am PT
I'm curious if these fake biners were on a quickdraw.
zBrown

Ice climber
Sep 12, 2018 - 10:51am PT

YMMV
Boy survives falling from tree house, being impaled in face by metal meat skewer


https://www.wtae.com/article/boy-survives-falling-from-tree-house-being-impaled-in-face-by-metal-meat-skewer/23096586
Dropline

Mountain climber
Somewhere Up There
Sep 12, 2018 - 04:20pm PT

A few friends and I showed up at a small but still kind of popular top rope crag in the late 90s. When we arrived we found television journalist David Hartman belaying his teenage son who had just returned from a week of summer camp that included some climbing. Hartman's teenage daughter was waiting to climb next.

I walked up and around to the top to build an anchor only to find his son's anchor had their rope threaded THROUGH a single nylon sling. I walked back down and suggested they stop climbing for a few minutes and then grabbed some of their nice shiny biners and very new webbing/slings and walked back up to build them a proper anchor.

I brought down the somewhat frayed and fried sling and provided a brief explanation. Hartman was effusively appreciative. Seemed like a really nice guy.

tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Sep 12, 2018 - 04:43pm PT
Really hope the kid is going to recover fully and have another try at climbing with some experienced guidance. when I was about 11 or 12? I had an old weather beaten book of how to be and outdoorsman. It showed pencil sketch of rapelling with what I assume must have been a dulfersitz?? I promptly went out to the hay barn and stole one of the very old hemp ropes that we used to tie hay on the old farm truck. I say stole because Pa was pretty strict about goofin off with farm equiptment when there was work to be done. I got ahold of that old hemp rope and scrambled up the scraggly cliffs above the horse pasture. Could not quite figure out the whole wrap the rope around the tree thing so that you could pull it and retrieve the rope. I simply tied the rope to a tree and wrapped it over my shoulder and under my leg like in the picture. Seemed to work so I backed over the edge of that 20ft shist slab. the old rotten rope promptly broke and I went flying pretty darn good off the cliff and down the hill. just missed getting tangled up in the electric fence. Really lucky to land in soft leaves on a steep slope that I bounced and rolled down without hitting anything hard.
thebravecowboy

climber
The Good Places
Sep 12, 2018 - 09:43pm PT
what did your Pa say, tradman?
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Sep 12, 2018 - 11:24pm PT
hey there say, tradmanclimbs... :O

man oh man... :O

good you made it through childhood... :)
skywalker1

Trad climber
co
Sep 13, 2018 - 12:00am PT
^^^^^ Exactly (to tradman and nee bee). Thankfully he didn't totally crater and hopefully everything is recovery from simple injuries He will improve on his techniques and be more attentive to the gear he truly needs.

Eventually we learn the proper techniques. Give the lad a little slack, perhaps a bit of a loop.

S....

Edit: It doesn't mean there isn't a lesson to learn here just sayin...
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Sep 13, 2018 - 03:34am PT
I am certain that I hid the broken rope and never mentioned it.
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