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thebravecowboy
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The Good Places
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Aug 20, 2018 - 06:09pm PT
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You mean like talking about attire?
Let trump go, we're not talking about the fire-crotch fake-hair f*#ker anymore, we want to know why you are so willing to forget the past, give up on your American brethren, and accept the decline of the american empire by sucking some white russian deek. I mean yeah Putin hates China, but do we need to let him, ahhh, social media-f*#k us?
OH! So about social media, yeah it's this thing, more impordddddant than nukes, that can be wielded by others against us.......
I lost 'im.
F*#k it, let's go climbing.
Have a nice night you anti-american, Jody. I know I will. :-)
EDIT: JOdy only liked attacking HRC because she approached that transexual line that was just crossed by the person crossdressing who wirt elected to east-US admin office recently....hmmmmmmmmmmmm....
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Aug 20, 2018 - 07:18pm PT
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Speaking of Paul Manafort,... three days of deliberation and still no verdict. An acquittal sure would be a blow to the Mueller team.
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Norton
climber
The Wastelands
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Aug 20, 2018 - 07:35pm PT
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Contractor
Boulder climber
CA
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Aug 20, 2018 - 07:50pm PT
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Speaking of Paul Manafort,... three days of deliberation and still no verdict. An acquittal sure would be a blow to the Mueller team. Amazing, rooting for the guy that evaded paying millions in taxes and committed bank fraud while wearing a $15,000 big bird jacket and against the Marine, Riffle Squad leader who wore a bronze star and a purple heart for heroism in combat. Pathetic...
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blahblah
Gym climber
Boulder
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Aug 20, 2018 - 08:06pm PT
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Judge Ellis honorably served as navy pilot and sharply rebuked Mueller's team on a number of occasions, so I don't know if the right way to evaluate the Manafort trial is try to link the various actors' military service to anything.
Sounds like the jury is doing the right thing by taking its time and (presumably) carefully evaluating the evidence. We should respect the process, and it's not really the American way to assume Manafort's guilty until the verdict is in. (Not that juries never make mistakes.)
If Mueller can't get a conviction, may be time to wrap things up and move on, it would seem like it may be pointless to continue.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Aug 20, 2018 - 08:16pm PT
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And 305 years in prison would be a blow to manafort...
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Psilocyborg
climber
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Aug 20, 2018 - 08:24pm PT
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anyone who trusts putin...LOL
anyone who fears putin....LOL
All you stupid "liberals" and "conservatives" are getting played. get a grip
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 20, 2018 - 08:33pm PT
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Sigh!
I do want to defend this thread by posting that I think most of the folks posting here are "mostly-sane."
Except for????
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monolith
climber
state of being
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Aug 20, 2018 - 08:36pm PT
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Judge Ellis honorably served as navy pilot and sharply rebuked Mueller's team on a number of occasions
Juddge Ellis admitted to the jury that he was wrong as well.
If Mueller can't get a conviction, may be time to wrap things up and move on, it would seem like it may be pointless to continue.
Manafort trial doesn't have anything to do with the Russian investigation.
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monolith
climber
state of being
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Aug 20, 2018 - 08:49pm PT
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(^^very weak logic jody^^)
For Jody:
In appointing Mueller, however, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein gave him broad authority not only to investigate "any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated" with Trump's campaign, but also to examine any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation.
BTW, even if Manafort is not convicted on anything, Gates has already admitted guilt.
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Winemaker
Sport climber
Yakima, WA
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Aug 20, 2018 - 08:54pm PT
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Cowboy, I criticized Obama's policies and executive actions. The left's attacks on Trump and anybody who supports Trump or works for him goes WAY beyond criticism of policies. Jeez Jody, have you completely forgotten eight years of absolutely insulting republican insults and attacks against Obama? During his State of the Union address a certain republican stood up and shouted 'You lie'. Come on, the things said about Obama and Michelle were disgusting and unending. During the very first days of his administration the republicans got together and agreed to be against ANYTHING he proposed, even if it was in the country's best interest. They fought against any proposals to mitigate the financial mess we were in just because he was a black man. That's the basic truth and if you can't see that ........
The things being said about Trump are actually reality based. He has been laundering Russian money through his real estate business for years and is about to be caught and he knows it. Do you really want this 'man' as president? He is amoral, unethical, unthinking, egotistical, and unaware of the basis of this countries roots, systems, beliefs, and rights. He's gamed the system for decades, declaring bankruptcy but coming out ahead, stiffing honest working people and their businesses, and finally, gotten involved with the Russian Mafia who have him by the balls. Just look at the evidence that is daily coming to light.
This is the man you support because you 'Hate Socialism'? Most people in this country just want a fair deal with an even playing field. The rich have certain advantages unavailable to we small folk and you're okay with this? That rich persons can set up off shore bank accounts, launder ill gotten gains, avoid taxes, game the system? They don't actually produce anything, except money for themselves. It's disgusting and not what America is about. How much tax money has been avoided by these people while we all pay our 'fair' share? Want to balance the budget? Stop all the cheating.
Edited to add: And here is Mr. Trump, who won't show his tax returns, says he's a billionaire and is proud, proud mind you, that he hasn't paid any taxes in twenty years. Thanks Donald for supporting the country that allowed you to make all that money. Socialize the losses and privatize the gains. Jody, you paid money every year to this guy because he never paid taxes, and he doesn't give a f*#k about you. Loyalty for this guy goes in exactly one direction, and it ain't towards you.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Aug 20, 2018 - 08:55pm PT
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Facts are funny things...
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blahblah
Gym climber
Boulder
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Aug 20, 2018 - 09:01pm PT
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If Mueller can't get a conviction, may be time to wrap things up and move on, it would seem like it may be pointless to continue.
Manafort trial doesn't have anything to do with the Russian investigation.
True, but it may suggest some problems with the basic competence of Mueller and his team--in deciding what cases to bring, or in their trial skills, or both.
As I understand it, the conviction rate at federal trials is well over 90%. This trial is under the microscope for a host of reasons.
If Mueller's team can't get a conviction here, maybe they just had some bad luck (and ran into a very difficult judge). But a lot of people are going to be asking if they've got deeper problems.
And should a federal prosecutor really be crying just because the judge is giving him a hard time!?
Of course this is all conjecture until we see what the jury does--a lot of pundits are saying it's too early to say much now, but if nothing happens tomorrow, chances of a conviction are going to go way down, we'll likely have a hung jury. (There are lots of charges, so we may get a mixed verdict too.)
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
Boulder climber
ne'er–do–well
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Aug 20, 2018 - 09:02pm PT
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Chris has repeatedly asked that we stop posting this sh#t, but you just keep on doing it don't you.
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monolith
climber
state of being
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Aug 20, 2018 - 09:05pm PT
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It's always the other guys fault.
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monolith
climber
state of being
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Aug 20, 2018 - 09:06pm PT
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But blahblah Gates has already admitted guilt and so have four others. Seems Mueller is competent after all.
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Capt.
climber
some eastside hovel
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Aug 20, 2018 - 09:10pm PT
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Jody arrives=thread demise.
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WBraun
climber
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Aug 20, 2018 - 09:14pm PT
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Jody arrives=thread demise.
Nope, not even remotely true.
It's YOU nutcases and all your st00pid knee jerking.
Blame yourselves ......
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Aug 20, 2018 - 09:15pm PT
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jonnyrig
climber
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Aug 20, 2018 - 09:19pm PT
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Politics? LOL
I keep my guns loaded and my fridge full of beer. I'm watching the world literally burn. Bring on the popcorn!
Damn near got the wife convinced I should buy a backhoe and put a bunker in under a swimming pool out back, so that's good.
Quality entertainment folks! Keep it coming!
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