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10b4me
Social climber
Lida Junction
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According to pud, that's a good thing.
Actually one of his "excuses" for this is to provide housing for the middle class.
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Keith Reed
climber
Johnson county TX
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Thank you both gentlemen.
I’ve signed and forwarded the link to some friends.
We have to watch out for these very bad people. Everything is for sale. Nothing is sacred or safe.
Next you’ll be seeing lakeside homes on hetch hetchy lake. Or you won’t because it will all be sold and locked behind a fence.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Done!
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Signed!
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Done
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 7, 2018 - 06:52pm PT
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Don't forget to share it if you do the social media thing...
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Pete_N
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, CA
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Thanks for posting this, as miserable as the news may be. Don't give up!
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 7, 2018 - 07:20pm PT
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Outdoor Alliance's goal of 25,000 signatures is far short of what it will take to make an impression. It's like setting up a Go Fund Me looking for $10,000 to help someone with stage 3 or 4 cancer.
There are more than enough Americans who treasure our public lands to make this go viral.
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pud
climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
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The federal government is doing a great job of preserving our natural resources and protecting our public lands.
They are doing a stellar job and we should not invite change.
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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Pud trusts a guy with a signature bigger than the surrounding headers to know how to manage the out of doors. Love it.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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One of those holes needs to be enlarged for Pud....give me a shovel. I’ll start digging now
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pud
climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
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One of those holes needs to be enlarged for Pud....give me a shovel. I’ll start digging now
No thanks Jim. I don't care to join your crowd.
The narrow minds here sit and sputter. They complain all day but accomplish little.
I'll be outside where life abounds. You boys stay put.
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 7, 2018 - 09:53pm PT
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Pud, Most of the Southern Sierra, as an example, is National Forest. Are they ideal land managers? Of course not. I but heads with them all the time. But the thought of handing the management of those lands over to State control makes me shudder. Of course maybe you think the State of California has a habit of doing things right (I know you know better than that.)
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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I know that all the western states have state land management policies in their state constitutions, which mandate them to manage their state lands for the most return to their state school-trust budgets.
That usually means selling state lands to the highest bidder.
Here's the worst & the best of it & a link to a longish article on the subject.
Conservationists who see the state trust lands as a preview of potential fallout for large-scale land transfers point to Nevada as a reason for concern.
While Nevada originally had 2.7 million acres of state trust lands, it now retains only about 3,000 acres. Other states, such as Montana and Wyoming, have as much as 90 percent of their initial estate.
"One of the broader concerns is that the state governments don't have a lot of extra resources available for land management," said Lee-Ashley.
https://www.eenews.net/stories/1060052928
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pud
climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
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Ksolem,
I think you're right. California state government officials are so far removed from the needs of their constituents they would likely find a way to destroy a great opportunity to help preserve our public lands.
The current problem of federal mismanagement of these lands has to be addressed and the old methods of wait and see are unproductive.
They've had their chance in my opinion, and we need to step up and take the reigns.
Are we so afraid of change that we are willing to sit idle while our public lands continue to be taken away?
I have 4 children that I want to have access to these lands and, their children as well.
The old farts and childless trolls on this site only have petty insults to throw around. Nothing of any real value to contribute.
The fear and lack of imagination on this site is a reflection of mainstream America imo. Their decisions made in fear of the unknown.
I don't choose to live this way.
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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Nice try Ksolem.
You should be a modern day journalist.
Lee has excluded current parks and monuments from consideration of conveyance. He's only talking about a percentage of the remaining holdings deemed ordinary.
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Jim Clipper
Gym climber
from the ground up
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Signed. I hope it makes a difference. It seems that there are a lot of smart people, working hard to use social media, lobby politicians, and even write law. Unfortunately, more seem to be employed by corporations than unions or non-profits. Slippery slope, even if the law only affects a percentage of ordinary public land.
Isn't Yelowstone only half a buffalo park?
The numbers will likely be influenced by those that gerrymandered the districts last.
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