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dirtbag
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Aug 27, 2018 - 08:15am PT
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But emails! Benghazi!
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apogee
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Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 27, 2018 - 09:34am PT
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https://www.politico.com/story/2018/08/27/john-mccain-death-white-house-flag-full-staff-797461
The White House raised its U.S. flag to full staff on Monday, less than two days after the death of Sen. John McCain, with whom President Donald Trump had publicly feuded.
McCain, a celebrated war hero and two-time presidential candidate, died late afternoon on Saturday in his home state of Arizona after a battle with brain cancer. Although other flags in Washington, including at the Capitol and around the Washington Monument, remained at half-staff in McCain's honor on Monday, the White House flag was not among them.
While the U.S. flag atop the White House was dropped to half-staff over the weekend, the president has not as of Monday morning issued a proclamation ordering U.S. flags be flown at half-staff in McCain's honor.
Presidential proclamations for the death of a prominent U.S. official typically call for the flag to be lowered until the date of interment. McCain's funeral is planned for Saturday.
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A Essex
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Aug 27, 2018 - 09:47am PT
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Trump is jealous of actual patriots
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Aug 27, 2018 - 09:51am PT
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If only McCain hadn't been captured...
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Aug 27, 2018 - 10:10am PT
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Moar Woar props up the entire system through public fear of "them". The enemy du jour.
“The past was alterable. The past never had been altered. Oceania was at war with Eastasia. Oceania had always been at war with Eastasia.”
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nafod
Boulder climber
State college
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Aug 27, 2018 - 10:15am PT
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No, the Iraq Withdrawal was created and militarily ordered by the Republican Bush Admin
And yet they were eventually sent back by Obama
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Contractor
Boulder climber
CA
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Aug 27, 2018 - 11:19am PT
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Fat Dad, good comments. The Palin pick for VP was one of the seminal moments in the Ascension of the Freedom caucus- I know McCain and his staff regretted that.
In terms of the votes related to Veterans issues, some votes were cast due to pork riders, no doubt but I specifically remember McCain opposing the GI bill that Obama was pushing for- McCain claimed troop numbers would drop due to service members leaving the military to get a free education and we couldn't afford this during a time of war. Well no sh#t...shouldn't they!
Nonetheless, he did what he thought was right in his service to our country- Trump got deferments and banged cleaning ladies.
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apogee
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Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 27, 2018 - 12:40pm PT
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Yeah, no, Jody. Just trying to be respectful for a person who had a significant role in our country's history. Apparently, that's difficult for some people to do.
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dirtbag
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Aug 27, 2018 - 12:59pm PT
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Aug 27, 2018 - 12:21pm PT
I appreciate that he has stopped being a RINO and can gtfo of the way.
Now if Ruth Ginsburg can hurry up, that'd be great.
Classy.
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michaeld
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Beta Sprayer at your Gym
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Aug 27, 2018 - 01:16pm PT
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They're only a fan of McCain because he's outspoken against Trump.
He was tried for treason in a military tribunal and was sentenced to death. He gets to keep his honor for his families sake. Dying the day after he stops meds for his brain tumor, sure...
Anyways, it was nice to see ISIS lowered their flags to half mast this week in honor of McCain.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Aug 27, 2018 - 01:16pm PT
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dirtbag
climber
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Aug 27, 2018 - 01:24pm PT
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They're only a fan of McCain because he's outspoken against Trump.
Partly. And, that’s not a bad thing.
And partly because there’s a seemingly dying tradition of respecting political opponents who have character, such as McCain.
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WyoRockMan
climber
Grizzlyville, WY
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Aug 27, 2018 - 01:27pm PT
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He was tried for treason in a military tribunal and was sentenced to death.
Care to provide proof of this trial and verdict?
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dirtbag
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Aug 27, 2018 - 04:47pm PT
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He was tried for treason in a military tribunal and was sentenced to death.
Care to provide proof of this trial and verdict?
Yes, please provide the source.
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Norton
climber
The Wastelands
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Aug 27, 2018 - 05:12pm PT
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ATG
Aug 27, 2018 - 03:40pm PT
You guys realize, I wonder, that this political bullshit is all supertopo is good for?
This is barely a climbing forum.
F*#k you guys. -----------------------
you forgot to post a political lie and then say something proudly and obviously racist
you can do better, try again
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couchmaster
climber
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Aug 27, 2018 - 07:21pm PT
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Michaeld, I hope you too aren't joining the #ZippersAtHalfMast movement to salute John McCain now. Lets see a link or it's fake news.
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apogee
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Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 27, 2018 - 07:33pm PT
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Yessiree, xcon, you can find any kind of opinion to support your views on the interwebz!
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Aug 27, 2018 - 07:42pm PT
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It appears Michaeld is now working for the Russians, to divide our society, per this post.
Snopes.com refutes his lie.
Did John McCain Admit He Was a ‘War Criminal’?
Rumors that the Arizona senator admitted that he was a 'war criminal' and that was he pardoned by President Nixon for his crimes are not true.
Those who promulgate the “pardon” aspect of McCain rumors never cite a single piece of evidence documenting that such a pardon was extended to McCain, save for occasional vague references to the notion that McCain was supposedly one of a group of 33 Vietnam-era POWs who were collectively granted pardons.
We contacted Professor of Political Science and Pardon Power Blog editor P.S. Ruckman, Jr. to ask whether there was any truth to the claim that John McCain had been pardoned by President Richard Nixon, who told us that his extensive review of data from multiple sources did not corroborate it:
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/john-mccain-war-crimes/
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WBraun
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Aug 27, 2018 - 07:46pm PT
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while under duress from continuous beatings by his captors
There were no witnesses to that except McCain's own words.
McCain had all his POW records sealed forever by manipulating the legislative process.
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