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rincon
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Coarsegold
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May 10, 2018 - 10:07am PT
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Norton
climber
The Wastelands
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May 10, 2018 - 10:12am PT
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^^^^
my goodness but Trump supporters absolutely just ADORE him don't they?
must be all those coal mining jobs he created for the unemployed in Appalachia
or was it the expansion of healthcare?
oh wait, it was the reduction in the Corporate tax rate, that's it !!!
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Trump
climber
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May 10, 2018 - 10:42am PT
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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/10/opinion/democrats-partisanship-identity-politics.html
“The politics of economic self-interest that underpinned the New Deal era have been supplanted by “expressive partisanship,” a form of “affective polarization,” as political scientists put it.
A distinctly social type of polarization that includes political prejudice, anger, enthusiasm, and activism has superceded political conflict over issues.
The more highly educated also tend to be more strongly identified along political lines.
Political knowledge tends to increase the effects of identity as more knowledgeable people have more informational ammunition to counter stories they don’t like.”
1800 posts of intelligent tribal people who’ve convinced ourselves that we’re just intelligent. Cool.
At least we’re no longer doing our little tribal thing over skin color. Me, I don’t even notice skin color, like the way we use that picture of the attractive thin woman sitting on her boyfriend’s lap. I’m one of you - I’m just righteously intelligent.
I would like to hope that Trump will win a Nobel Peace prize for denuclearizing North Korea, but as Kid Cudi says, don’t f*#k up the Feng Shui (of your tribal political identity).
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August West
Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
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May 10, 2018 - 11:12am PT
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Rincon,
The US is certainly not immune from fascists and totalitarian leanings.
Respect for the Constitution? Rule of Law? A system of Checks and Balances?
That's all for libtard sissies. Isn't it more fun to grab a gun and threaten violence! What could possibly go wrong once it is no longer possible to investigate the executive branch?
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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May 10, 2018 - 11:28am PT
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“The politics of economic self-interest that underpinned the New Deal era have been supplanted by “expressive partisanship,” a form of “affective polarization,” as political scientists put it.
The new "liberal" embraces a zero tolerance attitude towards non-believers. Intellectual discourse is out. Crush the "opposition" is in. Sadly, many of the opposition are old school liberals. But embracing diversity (of thought) is unacceptable.
Every week, I hear about intolerance of the new left. Richard Ned Lebow, Bret Weinstein, the Starbucks manager, Nicholas and Erika Christakis etc.
Interesting times
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WBraun
climber
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May 10, 2018 - 11:46am PT
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The more highly educated also tend to be more strongly identified along political lines.
Not educated, but brainwashed to the hilt .......
Libtards are brainwashed to the hilt .....
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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May 10, 2018 - 12:09pm PT
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They don’t know jack about window washing.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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May 10, 2018 - 02:24pm PT
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Intellectual discourse is out.
Seriously? There hasn't been "intellectual discourse" on the right since Buckley died.
The right gave up on "intellectual discourse" sixty years ago when Phillips, then Dent, then Atwater, then Rove decided fear and hate worked oh so much better. In fact, it worked so well, it created and unleashed an anti-intellectual monster which then turned around and devoured the party-formerly-known-as-the-GOP which today, in reality, is a fringe-right collection of extremists, nutjobs and traitors and truly GINO ('GOP-in-name-only') - moderates republicans were shown the door years ago. Hell, Log Cabin republicans are more honest and out in the open today than moderate republicans.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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May 10, 2018 - 02:25pm PT
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The idea has taken hold that citizens discharge their obligation to the republic merely by ascertaining the political leaning of the person raising an objection.
Once they acquire this knowledge, they believe they have everything they need to exercise the duty of citizenship and make an informed, independent judgment.
But especially today, when the foundational institutions of American life are under constant assault and the very idea of truth is called into question by the loudest voices in the public square, we cannot afford to collapse deliberative democracy into partisan branding.
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dirtbag
climber
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May 10, 2018 - 04:52pm PT
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Thank you, lord Jesus, for Robert Mueller.
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Norton
climber
The Wastelands
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May 10, 2018 - 05:19pm PT
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Remember when you decided to vote for Donald Trump?
When he said John McCain was a not a real hero because Trump's heroes don't get captured?
You liked that one didn't you Boo?
-------- *A White House official derisively dismissed John McCain’s opposition to President Trump’s CIA nominee in a closed-door staff meeting Thursday by saying that the senator from Arizona battling brain cancer is “dying anyway,” according to another White House official with knowledge of the comment.
McCain, 81, who has been at home in Arizona fighting brain cancer. McCain — a Navy officer who was captured in Vietnam after his aircraft crashed and was tortured as a prisoner of war — urged his Senate colleagues to oppose Haspel’s nomination
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Norton
climber
The Wastelands
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May 10, 2018 - 05:23pm PT
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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May 10, 2018 - 05:38pm PT
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PEW,What do they know,they research.
Brainwashed .......
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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May 10, 2018 - 05:54pm PT
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Seriously? There hasn't been "intellectual discourse" on the right since Buckley died.
The right gave up on "intellectual discourse" sixty years ago when Phillips, then Dent, then Atwater, then Rove decided fear and hate worked oh so much better. In fact, it worked so well, it created and unleashed an anti-intellectual monster which then turned around and devoured the party-formerly-known-as-the-GOP which today, in reality, is a fringe-right collection of extremists, nutjobs and traitors and truly GINO ('GOP-in-name-only') - moderates republicans were shown the door years ago. Hell, Log Cabin republicans are more honest and out in the open today than moderate republicans.
Thanks for the illustration.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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May 10, 2018 - 06:48pm PT
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One American too stooopid to quit
... a shocker: Donald Trump, a man who took sociopathic pleasure in “firing” people on television for over a decade and allegedly stiffed hundreds of workers and contractors, is a terrible person to work for.
The New York Times reports that Homeland Security secretary Kirstjen Nielsen—who was branded one of Trump’s “fiercest loyalists” by the New Yorker just two months ago—was so thoroughly berated by Trump in front of the entire cabinet on Wednesday that she was prepared to quit, and even drafted a resignation letter, although she didn’t submit it.
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Like a bloated, portly fake billionaire rolling off a hooker after a hot 45 seconds of passionate sex, Donald Trump’s ardor for Rudy Giuliani seems to have cooled.
Trump has been mostly unable to hire and retain top-flight litigators because he destroys everyone around him. His record of stacking former staffers like cordwood as they are either fired, humiliated, shamed, permanently scarred, forced to cut off a finger by the Yakuza, morally compromised, or moved into the Witness Protection Program will go down in presidential history. It’s no secret that he’s a spectacular liar at all times and on all subjects, leaving his legal team constantly wary they have a client who combines a stubborn streak and a self-destructive nature with an endless capacity to lie to them about his marital, financial, and political lies.
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Contractor
Boulder climber
CA
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May 10, 2018 - 07:04pm PT
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Healyje- I couldn't agree more. I hated Buckley's politics but he was honest and unapologetic about capitalism and not the State as the provider of society. Yet he revered the state as the the foundation that all factions relie upon and the determiner of the lines not to be crossed.
The current philosophy coming from the right is not actually a philosophy- It's a snake oil salesman, carpet bagger and plantation owner all rolled into one with the sole intent of tearing down the State as we know it and making off with the loot.
Pundits and politicians of the Buckley lineage still exist but they have been marginalized and pegged as compromising intellectuals. Two years ago, not in my wildest dreams, could I have imagine Peggy Noonan and George Will as allies of moderate thinkers.
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
Boulder climber
ne'er–do–well
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May 10, 2018 - 07:22pm PT
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Winemaker
Sport climber
Yakima, WA
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May 10, 2018 - 08:52pm PT
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From the New York Times:
Kirstjen Nielsen, the homeland security secretary, told colleagues she was close to resigning after President Trump berated her on Wednesday in front of the entire cabinet for what he said was her failure to adequately secure the nation’s borders, according to several current and former officials familiar with the episode.
Ms. Nielsen, who is a protégée of John F. Kelly, the White House chief of staff, has drafted a resignation letter but has not submitted it, according to two of the people. Well, don't just talk about it, do it for god's sake. Talk is cheap. Have some principles; time to say the Emperor has no clothes. On a similar topic I do not understand how Sanders can stand up and lie every day to the press; she knows she's lying and still does it. Damn, is there no self respect, no basis?
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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May 10, 2018 - 09:10pm PT
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Sanders likely makes a good salary lying thru her front teeth....And maybe there's the bonus grab when she has a good performance...
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