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deuce4
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Hobart, Australia
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 27, 2018 - 12:10pm PT
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deuce4
climber
Hobart, Australia
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 27, 2018 - 05:19pm PT
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getting the impression that talking about new big wall gear isn't really a thing right now....
crickets.
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Moof
Big Wall climber
Orygun
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Mar 27, 2018 - 09:13pm PT
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I’m still wrapping my head around how you actually sleep in it?
Maybe a good pic of someone laid out in bivy mode would help. All the videos showed being crunched up at best, leaving me skeptical.
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kunlun_shan
Mountain climber
SF, CA
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Mar 27, 2018 - 09:24pm PT
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What are the dimensions of the Trapezium? As John Mac asked, what's the longest length corner to corner?
I can find the total area and packed down length, but the deployed size isn't clear.
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deuce4
climber
Hobart, Australia
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 27, 2018 - 09:26pm PT
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Pretty cozy, actually. Better than the typical undersized ice cave.
Kinda more like a mini trampoline as opposed to a narrow yoga mat.
Has to be experienced, I suppose.
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deuce4
climber
Hobart, Australia
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 27, 2018 - 09:29pm PT
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About 66” long on the wall side, 48” wide.
Dims might change plus or minus a few inches on upcoming production batch, but keeping the max tube length to 23” daypack small.
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deuce4
climber
Hobart, Australia
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 28, 2018 - 02:37pm PT
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Make no bones. This is not a full size ledge. It is what Rob Miller and I call, a "1.5 ledge".
With fly, it is like a little portable cave that two people could be fully protected in fierce storms and get decent alpine sleep. Without fly is is a super comfortable hang out ledge, as good as a full size because no wasted space, but much better because its significantly more stable--rock solid compared to a long full length ledge. People are BASE jumping off it because it is so stable. Not really a bad one-person bivy, either. Certainly better than your stony options on Camp 5 of the Nose shared with three other people.
Did I mention it fits in a daypack?
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micronut
Trad climber
Fresno/Clovis, ca
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Mar 28, 2018 - 02:52pm PT
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Very cool idea and great implementation of an idea. I see it kind of as a " bomb shelter when you're getting pissed on" and a "Nice flat spot to rest on" when the weather is nice on a wall. My Cliff Cabana is sitting gathering dust as we speak. The thing is so heavy I hate moving it from one side of the garage to the other.
Really enjoyed your episode on The Enormocast by the way.
Scott
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deuce4
climber
Hobart, Australia
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 28, 2018 - 03:09pm PT
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Thanks Scott!
New hat design: "Make Portaledges Portable Again"
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Mar 28, 2018 - 03:37pm PT
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For solo big walls in winter on Baffin Island....yikes! Does it come with a holy water font?
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deuce4
climber
Hobart, Australia
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 28, 2018 - 07:53pm PT
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yes, Marek Raganowicz is soloing with one right now in Baffin. Really looking forward to see how he likes it. True test of the ultra lightweight vertical bivy shelter...
you probably need one too, Jim...
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Mar 28, 2018 - 08:12pm PT
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You can put me up in one when I come to visit...they look comfy!
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deuce4
climber
Hobart, Australia
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 28, 2018 - 08:23pm PT
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I will make you one for your next climb of Torre Egger. Then you can take your time up there... :)
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deuce4
climber
Hobart, Australia
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 14, 2018 - 12:55am PT
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First production batch shipping this week.
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duncan
climber
London, UK
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Apr 14, 2018 - 03:40am PT
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John, this is really cool.
It might be obvious but your biggest market could be folk trying the crowded Alpine walls like The Nose, who want insurance against not making it to the next natural bivi or finding all the good spots occupied.
You really don’t want to haul a BD monstrosity on these routes yet many now do.
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deuce4
climber
Hobart, Australia
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 14, 2018 - 02:11pm PT
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Hi Duncan
Yes, I agree, it is the ultimate lightweight weather insurance policy for the Nose.
Two people could escape any storm, anywhere, in relative comfort.
Plus it would be a decent extra bivy when the team gets to the crowded ledge camps.
Personally, I would take it on the Nose to camp on the belay after the Great Roof—probably one of the most spectacular portaledge spots on El Cap—whenever I guided the Nose back in the day, I would bring a portaledge and camp there just for the spectacularness of it all.
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duncan
climber
London, UK
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Apr 17, 2018 - 04:18am PT
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Thinking about this some more, it would also work really well for a two person team on many of the moderate El Cap. walls too: Zodiac, NA, Aquarian, Lurking Fear, and probably others, have decent one-person ledges. If you're happy with one cozy night together you could include The Shield.
You still have the option of both of you using the Trapezium you are slow, or the weather unexpectedly deteriorates.
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deuce4
climber
Hobart, Australia
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 21, 2018 - 02:04pm PT
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^exactly right, Duncan. This is a tool I wish I had when I was in my prime...
Just got word from Marek, who has been soloing new routes in Baffin with it the past couple months. He says the Trapezium is “super cool”, but hasn’t been able to send more feedback yet because his satellite reception is poor.
Production batch shipping out this week from the Tasmanian D4 headquarters!
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deuce4
climber
Hobart, Australia
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 21, 2018 - 04:59pm PT
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Lots of interest from all over the world for all sorts of adventures...
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