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AP
Trad climber
Calgary
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Oct 17, 2017 - 04:41pm PT
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100 F, not enough water?, mind altering drugs?
Bad combination
Would certainly explain a few things
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Oct 17, 2017 - 06:20pm PT
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hey there say, all... wasn't there a thread, here, a ways back, where they
was a young couple LOST for a few day?? in a 'park' or something, where they had hiked, and they were found, but--
the outcome, reminded me of that...
i was NOT sure, whether to share?? that or not
(wanting to NOT insult them or family) just that it seemed similar... :(
(calif? and one of the climbers said, that there was 'city' area, nearby, very close? and that they chould have found their way, ?)
they had had a very strange experience, so they said,
and it turned out, that: they had been using bath crystals??? (i think she was found HANGING? onto a cliff?? or, someone was??)
it was very sad :( that they could not have enjoyed their hike,
in some better way... :(
i think?? they too, had family that was very worried, about them... :(
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clifff
Mountain climber
golden, rollin hills of California
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Oct 17, 2017 - 06:37pm PT
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The above website Russ gave appears to be infected with malware!
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justthemaid
climber
Jim Henson's Basement
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Oct 17, 2017 - 06:58pm PT
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The hallucinogen angle might explain a lot.. Easy to get lostor disoriented if you aren't familiar with the area. You don't really realize how dehidrated you are. Been there and done that BTW.
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L
climber
And I'm searchin' for waterspouts...
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Oct 18, 2017 - 08:35am PT
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The above website Russ gave appears to be infected with malware!
Yes, I had the same experience. Had to shut everything down.
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Russ Walling
Social climber
from Poofters Froth, Wyoming
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Oct 18, 2017 - 09:00am PT
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Newsweek is malware? Must be Russian election manipulators testing new software
Orbeso and Nguyen checked in to an Airbnb in the high desert on Wednesday July 26th. The owner, who spoke with Devine on the telephone said the pair planned to hike at Joshua Tree National Park Thursday, July 27th and he confirmed with Devine that a neighbor saw them leave before 6 a.m. By Friday, when they hadn't checked out of the Airbnb, the owner called the sheriff's department. Some belongings, including 4 types of hallucinogenic drugs, were discovered in the rental, suggesting they never came back.
From here: http://www.kesq.com/news/missing-hikers-spotted-outside-joshua-tree-national-park/623782662
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phylp
Trad climber
Upland, CA
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Oct 20, 2017 - 11:06am PT
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Wow, too. Wow again.
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BigB
Trad climber
Red Rock
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Oct 20, 2017 - 11:23am PT
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damn....murder-suicide
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BigB
Trad climber
Red Rock
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Oct 20, 2017 - 12:24pm PT
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DMT..."Another sad example of why the frenzied speculator gossips early in this thread so often entirely miss the mark."
DMT, Werner actrually called it in post 42
Werner..."Foul play or psychedelics involved here?
What is the nature of these two peoples history?"
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Oct 20, 2017 - 12:46pm PT
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Can the guy be charged with 1st degree manslaughter..?
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Oct 20, 2017 - 01:42pm PT
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A truly sad story.
I offer my sincere condolences to the Families and Friends of the deceased.
RIP
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Daphne
Trad climber
Northern California
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Oct 20, 2017 - 02:21pm PT
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This is terrible. I am so sorry for anyone finding this thread in their grief over the deaths.
(IMO, Warbler needs to either update the old thread with an apology or delete his comments.)
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LAhiker
Social climber
Los Angeles
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Oct 20, 2017 - 04:43pm PT
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Statements by authorities in this article imply that the murder-suicide may have been an act of desperation. From the article:
The sheriff's department said it's possible that extreme heat and lack of resources played a role in their demise.
"They had positioned their clothing to protect to cover the lower parts of their body from the sun and the heat," said San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department spokesperson Cindy Bachman. "Investigators say it appeared they were rationing food, and they had no water."
http://abc7.com/gunshot-wounds-found-on-bodies-identified-as-missing-hikers-in-joshua-tree/2553182/
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WBraun
climber
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Oct 20, 2017 - 05:17pm PT
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Why didn't he shoot the gun into the air to attract attention originally?
We had a case like this and shots were fired to attract attention to the location of the subject and he was found and rescued.
Or did he?
How many bullets were still in the chamber or clip?
How many bullets were shot?
The news media gives nothing as usual.
This whole thing is hokey ....
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Bargainhunter
climber
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Oct 20, 2017 - 05:19pm PT
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Sorry, I'm not buying the shootings as an act of mercy. What's up with young people hiking in J-tree with guns? For the weight of that gun, they could have carried more water. I bet the guy's background is suspect.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Oct 20, 2017 - 05:21pm PT
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Wasn't it mentioned early on that the dude liked to carry "knives", as in more than one?
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Oct 20, 2017 - 05:30pm PT
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Given the amount of drugs available it’s a fool’s errand trying to analyze this logically, particulary given the sparse data available. Drugs, dehydration, and panic are not necessarily coefficients of homicide.
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