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Aeriq
Social climber
Location: It's a MisterE
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Rock on Ammon! Your destiny is in your hands - seize the moment and laugh heartily at the worriers.
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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yep, the parallel is that it is a lifestyle choice. haters gonna hate.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Jim, getting old is a function of the passing of the years, but what’s this “brittle” thing you brought up?
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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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Nuance here is that i've got no beef with BASE participants . My beef is with anyone who promotes it. The newest is BASE kids. Gobsmacked
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Aeriq
Social climber
Location: It's a MisterE
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There ain't much difference between Adrenaline addiction and Heroin or Coke addiction.
And the enablers of the same.
And do you see how Addicts keep upping the ante?
Doesn't turn out well.
Tell it to Dan Osman, Dean Potter and Sean Leary. You all were such good friends to them.
They lived the lives they wanted. What is your problem?
We all die - let people choose their own fukking fuse.
You don't live their lives, so don't project yours onto them.
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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We should never let people do drugs till they die from them.
We should never let people live until they die from it either, right Tuttle? Hahahaha!
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Jim Clipper
climber
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FWIW. Why such negativity on someone's post about recovering and persevering? Friends said they worry, and that should be heard. Also, the peanut gallery, including myself, says rad, but at the end of the day I dont think that's why the pirate decides to unfurl the sail.
Finally, how about a RockShox sticker for the peg leg. If you can rig one that makes landings safer, easier, even better. Be careful with any beta testing. Send some pics to RockShox with a letter of appreciation. Get "paid" doing what you love... mind your wheels...
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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A little education in the Co-Dependence of Enablers may be useful as well.
One giant conflation, tut.
MDs: Often wrong; never uncertain.
Who do you think you are to tell people what risks are appropriate for them, what their value priorities are, and what gives their lives meaning and joy? You've got NO handle on objective facts regarding such issues. Your hubris is showing.
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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In his way, he has tried to point out,
as I did in the "what to do in W. DC" thread,
That to say that Addictive actions/drugs
that one builds a tolerance to, so the need to take more & more to reach the same -No-Place- each time so that a person takes more & more
Thinking they need those poisons to achieve - nirvana or whatever-
are not funny, not a joke & kill, cause strokes,
get the L.E.Os out after you, when you figure how to make it pay/feed you,
& then if you don't wind up eating dirt, you'll sure to be some bubba's .....*"Special friend" "Buddy"
(*oh, I want to go so vulgar but Ive been asked not to, your little squeamish minds can't take it)
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Don Paul
Social climber
Washington DC
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I was trying mind my own business but if this is going to be the top supertopo thread I have to sound off too. I once had a boss who told me "Opinions are like a$$holes. Everybody's got one." He was actually a nice guy.
Bottom line. If Steve S says you are really bad at base jumping, you probably are. Congradulations on your recovery but please don't die trying to impress the crew on supertopo. They'll cheer you on all the way to your death.
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ionlyski
Trad climber
Polebridge, Montana
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Congradulations on your recovery but please don't die trying to impress the crew on supertopo.
Pretty sure Trying to impress Supertopo is not on his mind. That is really funny and conceited.
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Don Paul
Social climber
Washington DC
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Funny? OK. If you die on one of these jumps, should someone post the go pro video on youtube?
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Jim Clipper
climber
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age old question? would you still do it if no one's watching, or filming? many have, and still do.
virtually everyone here has a better understanding of the technical proficiency involved than me. still, considering the resume, including injuries, there seems to be some knowledge of the game. you don't get up there purely by luck, and usually you're gonna fall along the way.
some people are wired differently. maybe try to keep them closer because they are more rare. i may question judgment, but not someone's freedom to live their life in a way that doesn't harm others. In this case neither.
edit: dp, do you want to see the video? I was "struck" by the technical nature of early BASE. Analysis of gear, conditions, environment, etc., seemed the norm. Not for me, but some may see value in a video, at least to examine the reality of it all.
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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Never more apropos than in a spray of ego jerking presented as concern.
^^^ This
Pretty sure Trying to impress Supertopo is not on his mind.
^^^ And this
That is really funny and conceited.
Yeah, beware of those with "concern" for you who make false equivalencies designed to force you into their set of values and priorities, always, of course, with sincere expressions of "your best interest."
EVERYONE dies, and EVERYONE gets hurt. The difference between Ammon and some others of us compared to the majority on this planet is that we embrace risk and intentionally seek a risk/reward ratio that we have DECIDED works for us. Meanwhile, the majority are risk-averse, yet they then just die uselessly in car wrecks, from strokes, from diet/lifestyle-related diseases, and the litany goes on.
Yer gonna die! How do you live? With intention, or dodging bullets most of which you'll never see?
Tut and his ilk need to read some Camus (and I'm not even a practicing existentialist).
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BASE104
Social climber
An Oil Field
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I remember the old days of BASE when nobody made it to 100 jumps without spending time in plaster. Now there are people with thousands of jumps without injury. Gear and technique have constantly improved. Problems have been solved.
I regret seeing people cast negative opinions from the arena seats. Ammon is living his life, and what he does is not addiction but affection. It is super fun after you get past the initial willies.
Why anyone would opine on somebody else’s life choices baffles me. Harding probably heard it after putting up the most beautiful route on Earth.
It isn’t the place for us to judge others. It bothers me to see people do it. Ammon is just following his own path, responsible only to himself. I wager that a mere prosthetic will not stop him. The prior injury certainly didn’t.
The world would be a different place without hard chargers willing to take risks. Those types have pushed us further along. It is simple human progress, and it means something to the only one that matters, the participant.
Off heading openings are the typical cause of wall strikes. Modern gear has decreased their frequency greatly, but they still happen. Sometimes you can turn away, and sometimes you can’t. He knew this. Too bad that it happened twice.
He will not stop, I wager, and as for “circling the drain,” that comment is rooted in ignorance.
I hope that he keeps living life full blast. Taking adventure away from guys like him is the real death sentence.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Nicely stated Base. I learned long ago that everyone follows their own path and although the path others choose may not be to your liking it does to them.
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weezy
climber
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Basejumping is like smoking cigarettes. It's not good for you but it's kinda fun sometimes.
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weezy
climber
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simmer down buddy..
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