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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Aug 26, 2017 - 10:15am PT
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For a while i'd wear my Ultimate climbing helmet when i drove.. Partly to mess with other motorists.. I like wearing my old cycling helmet when sheet rocking lids... A helmet saved my noggin when i went over the bars at 25mph in a road race up in Yerington..
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Aug 26, 2017 - 10:57am PT
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Knowing the fuk what your doing is way more important than wearing a helmet.
The same thing is true with driving and wearing your seat belt.
We've done a lot of climbing together, some of it pretty risky. I think the only time you've seen me with a bucket on was on El Cap? But these new one's are nice. Super light and out of your vision, so I bought one. Several other climbers on this thread who certainly know WTF they're doing have made the same choice. Plus the examples I posted above of Beth Rodden and John Sherman.
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Aug 26, 2017 - 11:31am PT
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From left to right ~ Rock ~ Whitewater ~ Ice(w/out! Visor) Drunken resistance
When this need to debate the point of the benefits of wearing protection comes up
I can't help thinking of the great and doomed who many of us have known over time?
Helmets save lives
save good folks from years of drooling as the result of a traumatic brain injury.
Not that I like them or that I wear one at all times
There is no accounting for stupidnot shown are ski helmets for girls & boys
Please, if you lead climb, not a moment on the sharp end should happen without a
Bucket or safety lid on your head,
life after ? If you can call it life ?
what ever you want call it , it is cruel,
To cruel
Especially given that the entrapped soul lived to cling to the naked edge of the precipice
playing with gravity , always game to Climbing the Other, under side,
Living over the edge, walking the overhanging
A entity that defined a Free Spirit,
[had a moniker]
the very essence of embracing
and so embraced by the freedom of the high and wild !
That, if to then 1/2 exist ?
In some, more guarded, minds, Death may be preferable ?
I think often of a hero, who Inspired for so long, it was not that long ago
How is Wayne Crill?
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V V V Wow! Thnx [magic Mnt] man!
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rincon
climber
Coarsegold
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Aug 26, 2017 - 08:42pm PT
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We've done a lot of climbing together, some of it pretty risky.
Kris! Hell yeah! Mostly it was YOU doing the risk! LOL! You used to be quite a daredevil :-) I wasn't harping on people who wear helmets at all, to each his own as far as I'm concerned. I just hate it when someone tries to shame people for not wearing one, or call them idiots. I've never worn a helmet while climbing in 27 years and have never been hurt other than falling off boulders...I guess I'm just lucky.
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vlani
Trad climber
mountain view, ca
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Aug 31, 2017 - 02:33pm PT
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Those less fortunate of us who happened to have some brains inside that case should sure ware helmets. The others do not need to bother - in an unfortunate event of skull breakage the duct tape will carry you through the rest of your adventure, and when the time is right some screws will do nicely, with Cadillac option of solid oak replacement on the table.
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Aug 31, 2017 - 02:44pm PT
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Not all climbs are equal. Always wear one at Tahquitz never at Holcomb. Being able to objectively assess all hazards, to ones personal level, is the game.
Don't assume because someone isn't wearing a helmet that they haven't taken the risk into account - likely they have, as we all do, every day of our lives be it driving or deciding to go to work instead of f*#king off.
Soon helmets will be the norm if they aren't already, but I didn't learn climbing just now and I like the wind through my hair - even if it might end up killing me. Watched my best friend die from a TBI with a helmet on, been concussed myself a few times, though never had an injury climbing. I know it's a serious game but that's why I play it in the first place.
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vlani
Trad climber
mountain view, ca
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Aug 31, 2017 - 02:49pm PT
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Like soloists who never take into account risk of falling and not dying, people who do not ware helmets on rock never take into account all possible consequences. That is plain obvious.
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Aug 31, 2017 - 03:19pm PT
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Aug 31, 2017 - 03:23pm PT
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people who do not ware helmets on rock never take into account all possible consequences. That is plain obvious
that is one ignorant comment
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Mei
Trad climber
mxi2000.net
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Aug 31, 2017 - 03:27pm PT
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These days, I almost always carry my helmet on my pack, and most of the times, I don't find a need to wear them on my climbs. I assess the situation and use my judgement for the situation I'm in. I never question others' choice to wear one.
One time, I had to commute to work in a bad wind storm. I spend 20+ minutes driving on the woody mountain roads on my commute, where trees often times fall down. While I did not choose to skip work, I did choose to wear my helmet inside my car while driving. Felt funny.
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Aug 31, 2017 - 04:29pm PT
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You used to be quite a daredevil :-)
It's funny how that works. You'd think that when you're in your prime and have a lot of life ahead you would be careful to guard that, whereas when you have less time left you would be more willing to risk it all. But the opposite is the case for most of us. I guess it's a kind of supply and demand, the less there is the more it's worth.
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Mar'
Trad climber
Fanta Se
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Aug 31, 2017 - 05:32pm PT
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AP said:No excuse in this age of comfortable helmets. (to not wear a helmet).
I remember wearing one (as a beginner leading another beginner) on the Trough (Tahquitz) in the 70s once, just cuz I got a light-weight one from somebody. I liked it but the poor people below me were certain I was goona knock rock down on them. They yelled up "Please don't drop any rocks on us!!"
Up 'til then we hadn't~ nor did we.
I only wore it the one time, and I gave it back to that person.
I wear a helmet most of the time now (I have a BD Vapor), but I have no confidence in its surviving a direct hit, either from above or from me auger-ing into the mountain whether it be rock and/or ice.
Those excellent Joe Brown hand-laid fiberglass helmets were real helmets.
I killed one and I lived. Today's helmets are BS.
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Aug 31, 2017 - 08:27pm PT
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Everything in insurance is actuarial. My conclusion from that is that more climbers are wearing helmets, therefore more climbers who get injured are wearing helmets. I have a hard time with the idea that, for the great majority of climbers, a helmet makes them more willing to risk a fall.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Aug 31, 2017 - 08:55pm PT
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Charles Darwin HATES helmets!
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Mtnmun
Trad climber
Top of the Mountain Mun
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Aug 31, 2017 - 09:18pm PT
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Helmets are stupid until you fall and hit your head and die or a dislodged rock or carabiner hits you and you die.
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Mark Force
Trad climber
Ashland, Oregon
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Aug 31, 2017 - 10:47pm PT
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Kevin, No helmet ice climbing or mountaineering?
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Kevs from california we don't do that shit
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Al Fylak
Trad climber
Rochester Hills, MI
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I think helmets are for experienced climbers who have been to areas with loose rock and/or ice. I did not wear a helmet for 10 yrs until I started mountaineering and ice climbing in the 90's. After observing much ice/rock fall, it seemed stupid not to wear one! Since then I have been in several situations where the helmet saved me head lumps or worse. If you climb long enough .. you will start wearing a helmet. It may not save your life in all situations, but if you live after a head hit .. you will be glad you wore the head dome.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Just back from a climb in the Black Canyon. No gumbies there and helmets on every head.
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