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WyoRockMan
climber
Grizzlyville, WY
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Topic Author's Original Post - Jul 13, 2017 - 06:21pm PT
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As part of our purge prior to moving a couple years ago, my wife convinced me to feel the "joy of letting go" a collection of hats that seemed to have accumulated in the dark recess of my closet. Probably 200+, acquired from various vendors and locales. Her reasoning was sound, less stuff is good AND you only wear that one hat anyway.
Fast forward to a week or so ago. She says, "That hat is nasty, fix yourself!" I agree, the hat IS nasty, but more importantly it is falling apart. A new hole appears almost every day. So I began the hunt for a new ball cap.
Trucker Hats. That's it, trucker hats. Deep on every shelf.
I'm not the most fashionable guy around, but I do like practicality. The trucker hat with it's glorious mesh is an absolute disaster for us bald dudes. Ever have polka dot sunburn on your supercranial epidermis? No? Neither have all these young hat designers and store buyers. It isn't pleasant. A huge(?) market is overlooked here. Thanks fashion, you slut.
I did find a hat on the way back from the Black Hills, a wonderful hat from the Liquor Clean in Upton, WY. A bar and laundromat, genius. My wife thinks the hat is too steeped in sophomoric humour. Not fit for family galavanting.
The hunt for a quality ball cap continues...
...without a flat brim.
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caughtinside
Social climber
Oakland, CA
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Jul 13, 2017 - 06:28pm PT
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It is a puzzling trend, they look stupid on everyone. Sort of acceptable wen they were cheap but the new breed of dirtbag-chic truckers are pricey and ugly.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jul 13, 2017 - 08:43pm PT
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People who wear flat brim hats are hard pressed to spell 'hat'.
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anita514
Gym climber
Great White North
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Jul 14, 2017 - 04:29am PT
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People who wear flat brim hats are hard pressed to spell 'hat'.
Judgemental much?
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justthemaid
climber
Jim Henson's Basement
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Jul 14, 2017 - 05:26am PT
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Yeah- I'm a bit perplexed as well... I guess it's the "trend".
I work the retail up at the bristlecone forest. Our traditional soft cap (non-trucker) is the top selling item in the store- probably because you poor guys who just want a normal hat are so desperate for a fix.
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Nick Danger
Ice climber
Arvada, CO
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Jul 14, 2017 - 05:29am PT
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WyoRocMan,
I have spent a number of years working in the oil patch and have a bunch of hats from various oil field service companies, including the ever difficult to obtain Halliburton hat. Also a couple of cool Triumph motorcycle hats. If any of these would fit your bill (poor pun, I know) then let me know and I will send you one.
cheers
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Jul 14, 2017 - 07:30am PT
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Jack has introduced me to the underwear-band hat. Best invention since hats were invented.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Jul 14, 2017 - 08:55am PT
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Not a big fan of the flex fit, sometimes you gotta tighten-up yer shorts and yer hat on breezy run-outs. AAC has been pushing their trucker hats lately, swag at the Craggin Classic and they are showing up at raffles.
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WyoRockMan
climber
Grizzlyville, WY
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 14, 2017 - 10:20am PT
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Thanks for the offer Nick. This has become a quest and just having one delivered would diminish the suffering. I kind of feel the need to hold it, try it and thank the store owner in person.
The Flexfits are comfy, no doubt. They do lose their elasticity in a few months resulting in a sloppy fit with no way to crank it down. Plus they are missing a clip in loop. I like them and have no issue wearing one, but I don't think it will work for my daily driver.
I'm thinking a fabric or leather strap with buckle is going to fall into the "must have" category. The plastic plug and hole adjustable ones just seem slimy in hot weather, and low rent. I have an image to uphold.
My last hat went approximately 1,600 consecutive days. At $20, works out to just over a penny a day. Hoping for similar economy out my next one.
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anita514
Gym climber
Great White North
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Jul 14, 2017 - 11:22am PT
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At last count there were 2 women who owned Blanchard Guitars. Myownself and a gal who bats for the other team.
UhOh. . . is that sexist?
Nah. Just makes you super special and unique in all the world.
Please tell us more!
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blahblah
Gym climber
Boulder
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Jul 14, 2017 - 11:24am PT
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People who wear flat brim hats are hard pressed to spell 'hat'.
Judgemental much?
Umm, I think the word you're looking for is "judgmental." (No "e"--it's a tricky one, a lot tougher than "hat.")
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jul 14, 2017 - 12:20pm PT
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Hey, Charles and Anita, can you spell 'troll'? (hint, it's Norwegian)
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WyoRockMan
climber
Grizzlyville, WY
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 14, 2017 - 12:46pm PT
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Just put "cowboy" in front of word hat. No holes in those to burn yer head.
Kind of hard pressed to wear a cowboy hat. I wouldn't want people to think I was a trucker.
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JLyons
Sport climber
Cali
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Jul 14, 2017 - 01:43pm PT
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Flat hats
Reilly is 100% accurate. If I see someone with a ball cap with the flat bill, I immediately write them off. If they also tuck their ears in, or use the hat to force their ears to stick out more than usual, I find myself scanning the room for an axe. No offense, of course.
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rockermike
Trad climber
Berkeley
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Jul 14, 2017 - 08:25pm PT
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Funny to me how just a slight difference in the curve of a bill can speak wonders about one's personality. Personally I don't go for flat, nor too curved (reads military to my eyes). ha
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landcruiserbob
Trad climber
PUAKO, BIG ISLAND Kohala Coast
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Jul 14, 2017 - 08:34pm PT
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Trucker hats suck.
You can't wear them with sunglasses, you can't surf, paddle, or climb with the buggahs.
Pure caca
Aloha
Rg
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Kalimon
Social climber
Ridgway, CO
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Jul 14, 2017 - 09:02pm PT
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As a construction professional, I prefer a full coverage fabric cap with a flex fit band. This is superior to an open mesh hat with a plastic adjustment band.
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micronut
Trad climber
Fresno/Clovis, ca
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Jul 14, 2017 - 09:08pm PT
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. If I see someone with a ball cap with the flat bill, I immediately write them off. So to challege your presuppositions and overall preconceived by us as to being able to judge a person by his hat style, I posit that the "occasion" drives the style of hat needed. I'm bald so I usually wear a hat. And personally, I like the trucker style. I drive a truck. And I like the breeze from the backside.
Summertime backyard party/night out with the wife? Sims fly fishing hat, slight bend in brim.
Water polo or swim meet? USA knit back dark tone for full sun blockage.
On the river slaying giants? Marmot trucker hat dark mesh back, 55% bent brim.
Motocross with my son. Aw yeah....flat brim, ears tucked. He begs me never to wear an "old man hat" when we're at the track or a desert race. "Flat brim only dad!!!" I acquiesce for him though I feel silly for the first ten minutes. He loves it. And after spending time in that counterculture I would feel naked without one.
So, judge me all you want....I think my hat says both tons about me and nothing at all....I have even been known to wear a wig once in a while...
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jul 14, 2017 - 09:17pm PT
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This is about sending, right?
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ontheedgeandscaredtodeath
Social climber
SLO, Ca
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Jul 14, 2017 - 09:18pm PT
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I'm with micro- go flat where appropriate. my kid's free ride comps, flat brims and phat skis. Fly fishing, red necky curved brims. Any place you are actually worried about sun exposure- a real hat!
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micronut
Trad climber
Fresno/Clovis, ca
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Jul 14, 2017 - 09:20pm PT
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Nice. This site needs a "like" button.
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skitch
Gym climber
Bend Or
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Jul 14, 2017 - 09:32pm PT
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I recently found a hat that actually fits my head from Orvis, but I claim to fly fish.
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micronut
Trad climber
Fresno/Clovis, ca
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Jul 14, 2017 - 10:21pm PT
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Jul 14, 2017 - 10:51pm PT
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There is some kind of weird thing going on with the 'craft' hats. It's a good way to see who only hangs out with other white people. Usually accompanied by a well groomed beard, IPAs and chic luxury leather sandals.
Living in San Diego....it's a thing.
(If you're a girl your hat has to be a painting and if you are a boy it has to be a clean logo. These are the rules)
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ontheedgeandscaredtodeath
Social climber
SLO, Ca
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Jul 14, 2017 - 11:07pm PT
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I've never been able to decide whether I love or hate San Diego!
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Russ Walling
Social climber
from Poofters Froth, Wyoming
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Jul 15, 2017 - 09:40am PT
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The flat brimmed hat is the new "Crown of Idiocy"™™™
It is a cringeworthy accruement.
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JLyons
Sport climber
Cali
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Jul 15, 2017 - 12:32pm PT
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As with most things, there are outliers. Flat brim is the worst, I'm really sorry but it is.
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ec
climber
ca
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Jul 15, 2017 - 11:05pm PT
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hooblie
climber
from out where the anecdotes roam
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Jul 16, 2017 - 04:59am PT
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absolutely, image matters! i stitch ripped the brim from the crown, snugged it down, then slid the brim over to rid it of the floppy volume on top.
after i beat a $180 bicycle vs. traffic rap in this get-up
i posed for the neighbor with a rare, authentic smile.
wrinkle outta place woulda been a no-go.
that's how vain i am
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^^^ immaculate spock and smocks up there doc, you get it
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Jul 16, 2017 - 06:27am PT
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Bring it on, monsoor!
With a Jerry Garcia tie, hooblie...ho man!
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Captain...or Skully
climber
Boise, ID
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Jul 16, 2017 - 09:38am PT
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Not a 'trucker' in the whole bunch. Therefore, it's ALL academic.
And Micronut, ahem, You DO NOT drive a truck. That's just another little rig.
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
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Jul 16, 2017 - 10:27am PT
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I wear the same kinda hat as my t-shirts. The free ones. Shwag. I have an almost endless supply of hats and shirts that were free. One of the benefits of working in a restaurant with a bar. I am a walking booze ad.
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originalpmac
Mountain climber
Anywhere I like
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Jul 16, 2017 - 12:16pm PT
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What a bunch of haters. For the record, flex fit hats particularly backwards are for beer pong playing frat boys, those goofy hats with a velcro straps are for, well, dorks or bald guys. Flat brim hats? Flat brim hats: for men who like to have sex with beautiful women
Suck it, dou che bags!
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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Jul 16, 2017 - 03:59pm PT
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I don't wear a hat. What's the motivation for everyday life?
Curious.
If the answer is somehow obvious, count me stupid as well as curious, and please fill me in. What am I missing?
I ache to be enlightened.
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Russ Walling
Social climber
from Poofters Froth, Wyoming
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Jul 16, 2017 - 04:00pm PT
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I had no idea they were filming a Deliverance 2
MB: I don't wear a hat. What's the motivation for everyday life?
Habit left over from baseball days and glare... for bald dudes the glare off their heads, for me glare behind my sunglasses. Toss in some sun protection since I do a lot of work outside.
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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Jul 16, 2017 - 04:04pm PT
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^^^ Hehe
"Beautiful women" is a moving target.
In more ways than one.
Edit: Now that does make sense. Thanks for the account of it.
I was "blessed" with a full head of hair and radar-dish, protruding ears. So, my scalp is relatively safe, and a hat doesn't cover my ears unless it's one not fit for everyday use. So, all I can do is slather the sunblock and hope that scientists have a clue about that.
All the rest is just stylin'.
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Russ Walling
Social climber
from Poofters Froth, Wyoming
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Jul 16, 2017 - 04:55pm PT
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I roll with the double hat when needed... like at Spring Training games
Daily driver is something like this...
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originalpmac
Mountain climber
Anywhere I like
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Jul 16, 2017 - 08:42pm PT
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Filming Deliverence 2... Thats hilarious.
As for who's in the photo that's yours truly. My name is Pierce and the picture is in Ouray
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Russ Walling
Social climber
from Poofters Froth, Wyoming
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Jul 16, 2017 - 09:47pm PT
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^^^^^
First thought was that flick with Jodie Foster, Nell.... but then I saw the Busch Beer. That sealed the Deliverance deal.
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originalpmac
Mountain climber
Anywhere I like
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Jul 17, 2017 - 08:46am PT
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Hahaha! With the made up language?
Check the pick, thats not Busch beer, thats somr high quality colorado kolsch
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Russ Walling
Social climber
from Poofters Froth, Wyoming
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Jul 17, 2017 - 10:00am PT
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Yeah, but nothing brings out the high_qual Wimmenz like Busch beer!
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Jul 17, 2017 - 10:26am PT
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Bush, git sum!
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jul 17, 2017 - 10:30am PT
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Duct tape dresses? Really?
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Oplopanax
Mountain climber
The Deep Woods
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Jul 17, 2017 - 11:07am PT
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Flat cap >> flat brim
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Jul 17, 2017 - 11:22am PT
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How in god's name does someone from Sierra Madre become a Cub's fan?
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WyoRockMan
climber
Grizzlyville, WY
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 17, 2017 - 11:27am PT
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Update:
Found a suitable replacement in one of my gear totes. It meets proper specs:
1) No mesh
2) Proper bill curvature
3) Good clasp/strap/clip in point
4) Lighter color to minimize heat
5) Survivor of the great purge, bodes well
Mondays aren't all bad.
Carry on.
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originalpmac
Mountain climber
Anywhere I like
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Jul 17, 2017 - 11:27am PT
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I get the feeling those chicks don't actually have any "busch"
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F
climber
away from the ground
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Jul 17, 2017 - 11:38am PT
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jul 17, 2017 - 12:08pm PT
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Gary, a misspent Chicago childhood.* Also had a misspent yute here so I can
unabashedly root for the Blue Crew this year. Come September I'll be
switching between Dodger blue and Husky purple and gold. Go Dawgs!
*BTW, I ain't jokin' about Vinnie. Jess sayin'...
ps
We knew a famiglia in Sierra Madre who came from Chi Town that Vinnie
commuted to work for. :-/
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mooch
Trad climber
Tribal Base Camp (Kernville Annex)
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Jul 17, 2017 - 12:47pm PT
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Too far, Anita? <insert 'Troll Alert'> :)
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looks easy from here
climber
Ben Lomond, CA
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Jul 17, 2017 - 12:59pm PT
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I'm moderately embarrassed that my go-to hiking hat has become a low-curve trucker's hat, but it's so comfy I'm not embarrassed enough to stop. $30 Prana hat for $3 brand new at a thrift store. And at least I was classy enough to peel off the sticker.
Socal selfie for bonus tool points. ;)
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Jul 17, 2017 - 01:49pm PT
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Reilly, knowing that you're from all over the place it doesn't surprise me you're a Cubs fan. It's Walling I wonder about.
I had a love/hate relationship with Billy Williams. I respected his amazing talents, but hated the way he pounded Gibson.
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Nick Danger
Ice climber
Arvada, CO
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Jul 17, 2017 - 02:07pm PT
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Baseball cap versus boonie cover.....I ain't passin' judgement here, I'm just sayin' my boonie cover protects my ears better.
Also, a shout-out to my research partner and co-author Amy, who is one heck of a botanist.
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Captain...or Skully
climber
Boise, ID
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Jul 17, 2017 - 02:20pm PT
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So, WHAT makes a hat a "trucker" hat and not just a ball cap?
That wasn't on the "trucker" test.
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Russ Walling
Social climber
from Poofters Froth, Wyoming
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Jul 17, 2017 - 02:22pm PT
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So, WHAT makes a hat a "trucker" hat and not just a ball cap?
These days, usually the dipshit underneath it...
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micronut
Trad climber
Fresno/Clovis, ca
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Jul 17, 2017 - 03:18pm PT
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These days, usually the dipshit underneath it...
Love it.
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anita514
Gym climber
Great White North
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Jul 17, 2017 - 03:46pm PT
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Y U so angry, Jeebus?
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Jul 18, 2017 - 07:43am PT
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We knew a famiglia in Sierra Madre who came from Chi Town that Vinnie
commuted to work for. :-/
Half the businesses in Sierra Madre have something to do with witness protection programs. That's my wife's theory.
And Harry...
Russ, I get the Harry Caray thing. I grew up listening to Harry Caray and Jack Buck doing Cardinals games on KMOX. Or WRAY when reception was bad. Vin Scully bores me to tears.
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Cragar
climber
MSLA - MT
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Jul 18, 2017 - 08:39am PT
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Russ' last post post nails it and 9 out of 10 times it isn't the one Holding a CDL license. Nothing more dipshitty than a trucker hat wearing driver of a Sprinter van, sorry to all you millennial yuppies out there but I guess it does come in the MYL-SKI (Millennial Yuppie Life Starter Kit of Irony) starter kit so you have that as your defense!
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jul 18, 2017 - 08:45am PT
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Kind of a semi-trucker but just enough curve to be allowed...
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originalpmac
Mountain climber
Anywhere I like
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Jul 18, 2017 - 10:51am PT
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Thats not how you pose in front of an expensive sports car you don't own
This is how it's done. When i was twelve, back when hats got in the way of my sweet mohawk
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therealcracko
Big Wall climber
Palmdale,ca
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Jul 18, 2017 - 12:20pm PT
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Wouldn't you know that this thread would pull me back to ST after many years absence. There is nothing more important in life than proper hatsmanship ! My preference is the classic baseball hat with bill softly curved and hat worn slightly above ears. Other members of the Cracko family have been guilty of wearing hats with V-shaped bills and hats pulled too snugly over the head. Shameful really! The worst sin in proper hatsmanship is the trucker or flatbill hat which is just goofier than shite!! As a middle school Principal, I banned flatbills and trucker hats by humorously appealing to parents sense of style and tradition. Every student at my school knew if they showed up with a flat bill they would be confronted and their principal would correctly shape the bill of their hat. The decal and price tag were also removed from the offending hat. Please just say NO to trucker and flat bill hats. If you need more motivation just take one look at a photo of Trump with a trucker "Make America Great Again" hat. Clearly, he's embarrassing the whole team!!
Cracko
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micronut
Trad climber
Fresno/Clovis, ca
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Jul 18, 2017 - 01:06pm PT
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Welcome back Cracko!
I'm just stoked this thread is still alive.......
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originalpmac
Mountain climber
Anywhere I like
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Jul 18, 2017 - 01:15pm PT
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Does anybody ever put a curl in their hat like this? It's actually function curl over style. Any ideas what that function is?
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Cragar
climber
MSLA - MT
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Jul 18, 2017 - 01:28pm PT
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^^Micro - Good one on the flat-biller front..
Being from Fresno you may be familiar..
I grew up in EastBako and all the cholos would flatten the bill of their ballcap (Dodgers cap in the Lomita/Colonia Varrio)then flip it up. Usually the barrio that they lived in was artfully displayed on under the bill. I know one of the reasons for the flip-up was a way to know who was your vato when it was necessary just in case you didn't know each other. Plus, those f*#ks are territorial as F**k!
Edit: I'd see the cholo wear it curled as well...just another way to be different
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therealcracko
Big Wall climber
Palmdale,ca
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Jul 18, 2017 - 01:29pm PT
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Yes Origin, I happen to know that that particular style is the universal distress symbol for impacted stool. Glad to be of service !!
Cracko
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yanqui
climber
Balcarce, Argentina
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Jul 18, 2017 - 04:08pm PT
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originalpmac
Mountain climber
Anywhere I like
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Jul 18, 2017 - 06:12pm PT
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Aahahaha! Hilarious, Cracko. Actually works like a spoiler when riding my motorcylce around my property. Keeps it on my head, so yeah a little down pressure, just not in the sense you are thinking of.
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therealcracko
Big Wall climber
Palmdale,ca
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Jul 19, 2017 - 01:08pm PT
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Hi Mike, good to see you are still around. Hope all is well with you and yours.
Cracko
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ydpl8s
Trad climber
Santa Monica, California
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Jul 31, 2017 - 10:45am PT
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No hat, but some accessories for your lady I saw at craft fair in Utah.
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