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Jingus Newroutaineer
Sep 14, 2018 - 10:39pm PT
So how exactly did the Rooskies convince all those people who would have been better served by a Hillary victory not to vote at all?


Really, is that the best you can come up with?


Watch and learn when Jared and Fredo get indicted. Word on the street (Woodward) is they fed the Rooski's the RNC data on who to target.
the Fet

Sep 14, 2018 - 11:33pm PT
Manafort knows all about the Trump tower meeting with the Russians. And if Donald knew about it in advance and obstructed justice afterwards. Mueller wouldn't give Manafort the deal he got unless Manafort had something to offer.

Funny how Giuliani said "the President did nothing wrong and Paul Manafort will tell the truth." Minutes later, he seemed to reconsider. A "corrected" statement removed the bit about Manafort telling the truth. Haha! "He'll tell the truth, uh wait a minute, that won't be good for us... we need to start prepping for when he tells the truth so we can call it a lie! Remove that section about telling the truth."
ground chuck

Ice climber
Sep 15, 2018 - 02:22am PT
Manifort is the iceberg , rump is the titanic, rump's diehard supporters are locked in steerage now, even if they wanted to repent, they know it is too late to save face. they are waiting for the first trickle of ice water to seep into their watery graves, at which time they will be scurrying around with the rats, we tried to warn them, but no, they choose to deny the doctorine presented before them, so they only themselves to blame. indeed, hamifort wants out of jail bad, real bad. and he is willing to do anything for even a glimmer of hope. yes, he must have the goods, otherwise there would have been no deal. they worked to long and hard to get the evidence to put him away, they won't throw that away unless they get the beef they need to sink the rumpster.

when does the movie come out? i bet they are working the script right now. this has been a long climb, but the crux move is being made with full confidence. you can feel it.

guliani is just the nurse at rump's death bed, not trying to defend rump but provide some type of emotional support by telling lies of denial which he thinks will give rump hope, but he knows it is a hopeless cause, his lies a sham, but he feels he owes it to his sinking friend, plus, the money is good.

"Manafort has flipped! BOOM (the sound of broomsticks breaking the sound barrier crashing to earth - NO witches). The entire Trump family now in jeopardy. No pardon for Paul from Trump. No nice things to say about Mansfort by Rudy. Nightmares at the White House will be unending.

— John Dean (@JohnWDean) September 14, 2018"

Sep 15, 2018 - 05:51am PT
That’s a tough one Reilly. It’s pretty hard to honestly understand anything that we’d prefer not to understand, the way these brains of ours work. Most of us people prefer not to understand that about ourselves. But I’ll bet the other people idiots interested in psychology, and the other people idiots at Cambridge Analytica, had something to do with it. Please share with us what your investigations reveal. What do the other people idiots at the US intelligence communities tell us about what the Russians did?

If you’re waiting until you have 100% of the informstion before you form a belief, then you’ll probably be dead before you get to one. But if we blame other people for not doing that, well, human enough.

Boulder climber
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 15, 2018 - 06:03am PT
From Axios
Jonathan Swan

Scoop: Republicans secretly study their coming hell

Congressional Republicans are getting ready for hell. Axios has obtained a spreadsheet that's circulated through Republican circles on and off Capitol Hill — including at least one leadership office — that meticulously previews the investigations Democrats will likely launch if they flip the House.

Why this matters: Publicly, House Republicans are putting on a brave face about the midterms. But privately, they are scrambling to prepare for the worst. This document, which catalogs requests Democrats have already made, is part of that effort.

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It has churned Republican stomachs. Here are some of the probes it predicts:

President Trump’s tax returns
Trump family businesses — and whether they comply with the Constitution's emoluments clause, including the Chinese trademark grant to the Trump Organization
Trump's dealings with Russia, including the president's preparation for his meeting with Vladimir Putin
The payment to Stephanie Clifford — a.k.a. Stormy Daniels
James Comey's firing
Trump's firing of U.S. attorneys
Trump's proposed transgender ban for the military
Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin's business dealings
White House staff's personal email use
Cabinet secretary travel, office expenses, and other misused perks
Discussion of classified information at Mar-a-Lago
Jared Kushner's ethics law compliance
Dismissal of members of the EPA board of scientific counselors
The travel ban
Family separation policy
Hurricane response in Puerto Rico
Election security and hacking attempts
White House security clearances
The spreadsheet — which I'm told originated in a senior House Republican office — catalogs more than 100 formal requests from House Democrats this Congress, spanning nearly every committee.

The spreadsheet includes requests for administration officials to be grilled by committee staff, requests for hearings to obtain sworn testimony, efforts to seize communications about controversial policies and personnel decisions, and subpoena threats.
These demands would turn the Trump White House into a 24/7 legal defense operation.
The bottom line: Thanks to their control of Congress, Republicans have blocked most of the Democrats’ investigative requests. But if the House flips, the GOP loses its power to stymie. Lawyers close to the White House tell me the Trump administration is nowhere near prepared for the investigatory onslaught that awaits them, and they consider it among the greatest threats to his presidency.

For complicit Republican Congressman, it'll be a spread sheet in the most literal sense- Okay folks, let's see what you've got hiding in that prison pocket of yours.


Ice climber
Sep 15, 2018 - 07:04am PT
So how exactly did the Rooskies convince all those people who would have been better served by a Hillary victory not to vote at all?

Since it's all just speculation anyway, why not speculate on how much different things (you know all things considered) would be if H. Clinton or E. Warren had been elected.

Maybe someone can post some interesting graphs.

Indian Domestic Sales


Trad climber
The Dark Side
Sep 15, 2018 - 07:22am PT
The Blue wave will turn Red with the help of my Russian military

along with the help of the GOP, there will be massive purging of voters, voter machine hacking, gerrymandering and other dirty tricks
The GOP has too much to lose if it loses power
so it won't

Sep 15, 2018 - 09:04am PT
Contractor, please cite the link on Axios for your post.


Trad climber
Sep 15, 2018 - 09:07am PT
I listed to "An American Life" (may be wrong title) last night, and the stories were on how they are clamping down on immigration. One point was about how the deportations are actually targeting those who have legally come in. It's just enraging; they spout "We want people to come legally! " But it's not true. If you have some spare time to listen to the program, well worth the time.

I would find it difficult to imagine any decent human being to still stand with GOP after hearing it.

Just horrible people behind the design if this deportation move.

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Sep 15, 2018 - 09:09am PT
Tut, I’m sad that yer such a sucker.

Boulder climber
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 15, 2018 - 09:16am PT

Ice climber
Sep 15, 2018 - 09:19am PT

President Donald Trump has reportedly been fixated on unflattering news reports about his response to Hurricane Maria, which slammed Puerto Rico in September 2017.

Trump has particularly been irritated by video footage of him throwing rolls of paper towels to a crowd of relief workers on the island, according to The Washington Post. The footage prompted accusations that Trump lacks empathy.

"I'm not to blame for this," Trump said about Maria at one point, according to one of his advisers.

Trump continued to cast doubt on the final death toll from Hurricane Maria on Friday, and mischaracterized an academic study that estimated 3,000 deaths in Puerto Rico in the months after the storm.


Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Sep 15, 2018 - 09:27am PT
To call Trump tone deaf would emply that he may have other redeeming qualities which he doesn’t.
Larry Nelson

Social climber
Sep 15, 2018 - 10:26am PT
Trump's fingers look too short to accurately shoot paper towels into anything

Gym climber
Sep 15, 2018 - 10:33am PT
I remeber when Russians were the bad guys and even Palin was worried about seeing them from her house. Now McCain is the bad guy and ANY reports of Russians doing anything nefarius MUST be fabrications. Unfukingbelievable how fuking stupid some fuking Merkins are.
August West

Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
Sep 15, 2018 - 10:48am PT
So how exactly did the Rooskies convince all those people who would have been better served by a Hillary victory not to vote at all?

The usual suspects:

Fear mongering. Conspiracy theories and other lies. Bigotry.

The politics of hate and resentment.

It's ok to cut my social benefits to pay for a trillion dollar tax cut for the 1%. As long as it makes libtards cry, it is worth it.

Ice climber
great white north
Sep 15, 2018 - 11:01am PT
Unfukingbelievable how fuking stupid some fuking Merkins are.

Not at all

Who still thinks America is #1 ?

And you—sorority girl—yeah—just in case you accidentally wander into a voting booth one day, there are some things you should know, and one of them is that there is absolutely no evidence to support the statement that we're the greatest country in the world. We're seventh in literacy, twenty-seventh in math, twenty-second in science, forty-ninth in life expectancy, 178th in infant mortality, third in median household income, number four in labor force, and number four in exports. We lead the world in only three categories: number of incarcerated citizens per capita, number of adults who believe angels are real, and defense spending, where we spend more than the next twenty-six countries combined, twenty-five of whom are allies. None of this is the fault of a 20-year-old college student, but you, nonetheless, are without a doubt, a member of the WORST-period-GENERATION-period-EVER-period, so when you ask what makes us the greatest country in the world, I don't know what the f*#k you're talking about?! Yosemite?!!!

We sure used to be. We stood up for what was right! We fought for moral reasons, we passed and struck down laws for moral reasons. We waged wars on poverty, not poor people. We sacrificed, we cared about our neighbors, we put our money where our mouths were, and we never beat our chest. We built great big things, made ungodly technological advances, explored the universe, cured diseases, and cultivated the world's greatest artists and the world's greatest economy. We reached for the stars, and we acted like men. We aspired to intelligence; we didn't belittle it; it didn't make us feel inferior. We didn't identify ourselves by who we voted for in the last election, and we didn't scare so easy. And we were able to be all these things and do all these things because we were informed. By great men, men who were revered. The first step in solving any problem is recognizing there is one—America is not the greatest country in the world anymore.


Jingus Newroutaineer
Sep 15, 2018 - 11:05am PT
Tut, I’m sad that yer such a sucker.



It just doesn't get any sadder than that.

Power Crux

Social climber
ignoring verbal commands
Sep 15, 2018 - 11:42am PT
lol old man Reilly believes every word out of trumps mouth and calls other people sucker


Ice climber
Sep 15, 2018 - 01:04pm PT
Trump has a lot more to be concerned about than paper products

Though he has probably sheeit his pants a couple of times in the laxt two days

In addition to giving Mueller more information about his own case, Manafort could also help him connect the dots on several pivotal events that occurred while he was spearheading the Trump campaign and even after.

Those include Russia's hack of the Democratic National Committee; his offer of "private briefings" about the campaign to a Russian oligarch; and former Trump lawyer John Dowd's reported efforts to dangle pardons for him and former national security adviser Michael Flynn last summer if they stayed mum during the investigation.

Most importantly, he can give Mueller a firsthand account of a June 2016 meeting at Trump Tower between top campaign officials and two Russian lobbyists.

Manafort attended the meeting along with Donald Trump Jr. and senior adviser Jared Kushner. Trump Jr. initially released a statement saying the meeting was a non-event and unrelated to campaign business.

He had to amend the statement several times as new details about the meeting spilled out in public view. Eventually, it emerged that Trump Jr. agreed to the meeting after he was offered kompromat on Hillary Clinton as "part of Russia and its government's support" for Trump's candidacy.
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