Covfefe

There'll probably be a sweet shore break where my car is currently parked in about 50 months.

I heard poorly rated @Morning_Joe speaks badly of me (don't watch anymore). Then how come low I.Q. Crazy Mika, along with Psycho Joe, came..
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 29, 2017

...to Mar-a-Lago 3 nights in a row around New Year's Eve, and insisted on joining me. She was bleeding badly from a face-lift. I said no!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 29, 2017

“Look, I don’t think you can expect someone to be personally attacked day after day, minute by minute, and sit back,” deputy press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders told reporters at the White House.

This is the linguistic style that won the election, no? If he started speaking in complete sentences, and using words like "subsided", "inclination", and "discredited", his base might bolt

Mrs. Clinton believes that Mr. Comey cost her the election by revealing, shortly before Election Day, that her emails were still under investigation.

It’s hard to imagine that Mrs. Clinton wouldn’t have fired Mr. Comey too if she’d gotten the chance, which makes the whole fuss a bit suspect.

It seems that both Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Trump had reservations about Mr. Comey. Mr. Trump is just the one who fired him.

Does that qualify as saying something nice about the president?

“This may strike your listeners as way out, but we actually believe that there is a colony on Mars that is populated by children who were kidnapped and sent into space on a 20 year ride,” Steele began. “So that once they get to Mars they have no alternative but to be slaves on the Mars colony. There’s all kinds of—”

Watusi, that's hilarious and a bit scary!

(a) Whoever, for the purpose of obtaining information respecting the national defense with intent or reason to believe that the information is to be used to the injury of the United States, or to the advantage of any foreign nation,...

(b) Whoever, for the purpose aforesaid, and with like intent or reason to believe, copies, takes, makes, or obtains, or attempts to copy, take, make, or obtain, any sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, document, writing, or note of anything connected with the national defense...

(c)Whoever, for the purpose aforesaid, receives or obtains or agrees or attempts to receive or obtain from any person, or from any source whatever, any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note, of anything connected with the national defense, knowing or having reason to believe, at the time he receives or obtains, or agrees or attempts to receive or obtain it, that it has been or will be obtained, taken, made, or disposed of by any person contrary to the provisions of this chapter;

(e) Whoever having unauthorized possession of, access to, or control over any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note relating to the national defense, or information relating to the national defense which information the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation, willfully communicates, delivers, transmits or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted, or attempts to communicate, deliver, transmit or cause to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it;

(g) If two or more persons conspire to violate any of the foregoing provisions of this section, and one or more of such persons do any act to effect the object of the conspiracy, each of the parties to such conspiracy shall be subject to the punishment provided for the offense which is the object of such conspiracy.

(h)
(1) Any person convicted of a violation of this section shall forfeit to the United States, irrespective of any provision of State law, any property constituting, or derived from, any proceeds the person obtained, directly or indirectly, from any foreign government, or any faction or party or military or naval force within a foreign country, whether recognized or unrecognized by the United States, as the result of such violation. For the purposes of this subsection, the term “State” includes a State of the United States, the District of Columbia, and any commonwealth, territory, or possession of the United States.
(2) The court, in imposing sentence on a defendant for a conviction of a violation of this section, shall order that the defendant forfeit to the United States all property described in paragraph (1) of this subsection.

Sorry folks! Didn't want to create another political thread, didn't want to soil the policy issue discussion thread.

💩's about to hit the fan folks.

Jul 19, 2017 - 10:28pm PT
dirtbag that Andy Serkis bit doing gollum was totes man.

DMT

To clear up one legal question Trump is said to be exploring: A president does not have self-pardon powers. -Norman Eisen

Japan’s First Lady won major internet points after finding a way to avoid talking to Donald Trump at the recent G20 summit — by pretending not to speak any English.

Akie Abe, the wife of Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo, was seated next to the controversial POTUS at a dinner on July 8, which marked the end of the two-day summit in Hamburg, Germany, reports the Mirror.

In an interview with the New York Times, Trump explained that he was not able to converse with Mrs. Abe because she doesn’t understand English.

.The not speaking english is more fake news...

President Donald Trump on Thursday suggested that “flipping” to make a deal with prosecutors “almost ought to be outlawed,” and falsely claimed that his former personal attorney Michael Cohen’s crimes “weren’t crimes.”

^^^+++^^^
If it was up to me he would be a future recipient of the congressional medal of freedom.

Can't figure out which is less appealing; President Pence or 2 more years of the orange tornado.

You forgot about Cohen, blahblah

To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions which cancelled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them, to use logic against logic, to repudiate morality while laying claim to it, to believe that democracy was impossible and that the Party was the guardian of democracy, to forget whatever it was necessary to forget, then to draw it back into memory again at the moment when it was needed, and then promptly to forget it again, and above all, to apply the same process to the process itself—that was the ultimate subtlety: consciously to induce unconsciousness, and then, once again, to become unconscious of the act of hypnosis you had just performed. Even to understand the word—doublethink—involved the use of doublethink.

It is illegal to plan to meet to be given "dirt" (thing of value) on your political opponents from non-citizens. This is a conspiracy to accept an illegal campaign contribution and borerline treason accepting it from a foe of the USA regardless of whether any "dirt" is received or not. Just like a conspiracy to rob a bank or any other crime. Yes bro, it is legally prohibited and it doesn't matter if the bank gets robbed if it can be proven the criminals were serious in their intent.

Evangelicals will probably be the first to abandon Trump.

Yet the DNC and Hillary get a pass for hiring a foreign national to get dirt from Russian officials. Hmm.

And there you have it. Unable to tell the difference in the law and what (likely) took place.

Accepting an illegal campaign contribution (thing of value) from hostile foreigners in exchange for foreign policy changes (Treason) is completely different from paying a British citizen to collect things of value with nothing else expected in return.

The real crime is what treasonous quid pro quo Cheeto the Ass Clown offered in exchange, which was an by all appearances the altering of USA Foreign Policy towards Russian criminal activity in Crimea and Ukraine. Basically accepting murder and annexation of sovereign territory in exchange for the info contrary to existing International and USA Law.

But that kind of treasony nuance is beyond you.

A campaign contribution is "anything of value" like opposition research.

Quite certain "freedom of speech" does not cover hacking dnc servers by Russians bro.

Accepting an illegal campaign contribution (thing of value) from hostile foreigners in exchange for foreign policy changes (Treason)

When Donald "Junior Mint" Trump coordinated with the Russians' representative, Rob Goldstone, to set up the meeting at Trump Tower, to obtain "dirt on Clinton", he violated Federal campaign laws. When he lied under oath to Congress about the meeting, he committed perjury. When he conspired with his father to obstruct Mueller's investigation, he committed yet another felony.

I forgot he lied under oath, ouch. It's telling how quiet Mueller and others have been about this stuff. Indicates he has bigger fish to fry and I wouldn't be surprised if it's the tip of the iceberg and he has evidence of even more serious stuff.

Trump has entered the Querencia Phase of his presidency.

Just last week, Trump sued porn star Stormy Daniels for $20 million. He then fired Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe, 26 hours short of retiring with his pension. Trump's lawyers have demanded an end to all investigations into White House malfeasance.

These intimidation moves are the desperate actions of a madman who has been backed into a corner. Wild-eyed and crazy, foaming at the mouth, Trump is grasping at something - anything - to stave off the inevitable. He is attempting to distract, confuse, intimidate and stall his pursuers, hoping that some sort of Deus ex Machina miracle - as seen on TV - will magically materialize, and lift him from the bottomless pit of turpitude he has dug himself into.

To borrow a metaphor from a sport as barbaric and bloody as modern D.C. politics, Trump has entered the Querencia Phase of his presidency. This is when a bull in a ring realizes that the matador is finally closing in for the kill. At this point, the bull will retreat to an area of the ring that he deems a safe haven, so that he can regroup, rethink, plan, and muster the last of his strength to prepare for the epic, final battle that he knows he cannot win.

This is when the bull is most unpredictable and dangerous. A bull in the Querencia Phase of the fight must be handled very carefully, or disaster will ensue. One misstep, mistake or misjudgement can give the victory to the bull.

A querencia is a place the bull naturally wants to go to in the ring, a preferred locality... It is a place which develops in the course of the fight where the bull makes his home. It does not usually show at once, but develops in his brain as the fight goes on. In this place he feels that he has his back against the wall and in his querencia he is inestimably more dangerous and almost impossible to kill.

Ernest Hemingway, Death in the Afternoon (courtesy Wikipedia.com)

Make no mistake: Trump has no intention of going down without taking out the matador and as much of the audience as he can. His self-image, as a godlike entity, requires a heroic and cataclysmic final act to punish those who have challenged his divinity and omnipotence.

Nixon had the decency to resign, for the benefit of the nation, when he entered his own unavoidable Querencia Phase. Trump has no such decency. And neither did Saddam Hussein, who burned the Iraqi oil wells on his way out.

The TV scene that plays over and over in Trump's mind these days is that of James Cagney, going down amid gunfire and flames:

Made it, Ma! Top of the World!

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump on Wednesday said the campaign finance violations his longtime lawyer Michael Cohen pleaded guilty to in federal court on Tuesday were “not a crime,” even though prosecutors and Cohen agreed they were.

If President Donald Trump were impeached, "the American people would revolt," the President's lawyer Rudy Giuliani said

The battle over a US Senate seat in Texas continues to heat up after a statewide poll released Wednesday shows Democratic candidate Beto O'Rourke just 4 points behind Republican incumbent Sen. Ted Cruz.

Time for team Taco to dox this EdwardT, someone I could give a whit for.

a former Trump Organization employee told CNN that Weisselberg being subpoenaed was the "ultimate nightmare scenario for Trump" because Weisselberg knows "anything and everything" about the finances of the Trump Organization.
"Allen knows where all the financial bodies are buried. Allen knows every deal, he knows every dealership, he knows every sale, anything and everything that's been done -- he knows every membership. Anything you can think of," said the person, who was not making any specific allegations about the Trump Organization's finances.

His incompetence with regard to the economy, and foreign relations, speaks for itself.

My guess is that Mueller, sometime in 2019, after the dramatic preliminaries are out of the way, will report that the evidence and law support criminal and constitutional charges against Trump, and recommend that the courts decide the proper process. The courts may in turn decide that constitutional charges should be handled through impeachment, and so pass that buck to a possibly enheartened post-election Congress. But that other federal charges can be laid against Trump while he’s in office, and that he can be tried for them. State charges, which may be as serious, may be another matter.

^^^

Blahblah,

I think your second sentence is missing the word "no."

If I'm right, then I think your comment is correct.

blah,

you are biased af but you seem to understand the law

any concern about trumps constant mocking of the rule of law?

today he literally told the nations top prosecuter to go after his political opponents

shitshow on historic scale

Considering the over the top anti-Trump hatespray, that's a daily occurrence, I didn't see how my bit of trollery would be so upsetting.

frostback

Social climber
great white north

Aug 24, 2018 - 11:28am PT
OPMac
I am fully with you on sharp commentary from both sides; but there's' a fine line and imho eddie baby crossed it with his meme on Obama yesterday.

"F*#k Cheeto the Treasonous Ass Clown"

in context many people view it as racist. I applaud you for having the respect to take it down.

Wrong again blat. Appellate courts determine "proper process" all the time.

"F*#k Cheeto the Treasonous Ass Clown"

Okay Folks. I'm gonna ask for a little clarification. I admit last night's meme was in bad taste. Clearly offensive. Definitely, loose on the facts. But I didn't see it as racist. I'm not looking for a conflict. Just clarification.

What specifically was racist?

B. Report to the Attorney General, recommending that charges be laid against Trump and/or that impeachment proceedings begin.

C. Lay charges against Trump, and let the courts decide.

Supreme Court cases going back 150 years emphasize that the president retains complete authority to control federal criminal prosecutions. Without a statutorily appointed special counsel given special tenure, Trump could fire anyone who tried to indict him.

Maybe it’s not technically racism (claiming a race is inferior) it’s just “racially charged language“ as they say, but most people think of racism as disparaging someone in a racial way which this clearly does.

But, I see it as clearly racist, when a white-man posts a cartoon about a man that our society perceives as black & states "he pretends to be black" and that cartoon states that the black man, who claims to be both Christian, & an American citizen, is neither.

Faith and nationality aren't about race.

Am I the only one who sees a comparison?

Rump playing to his base, no matter who they are.

While Democratic donors have eagerly opened their wallets ahead of the 2018 midterm elections, helping Democratic candidates and groups largely outraise their Republican counterparts, one notable exception has stood out: The Democratic National Committee — the party’s signature organization — has posted its worst midterm fund raising totals in more than a decade.

The DNC has so far taken in $116 million before the November midterm elections — $9 million less than it had taken in at this point in 2014 and more than $30 million less than it had taken in at this point in 2010, the last two midterm cycles.

By contrast, the Republican National Committee has nearly doubled the DNC’s haul this cycle, bringing in a total of $227 million. And of the six major federal committees of both parties, the DNC has by far the most debt ($6.7 million) and the least amount in its bank account ($7.8 million)....

The DNC’s fundraising woes come in a cycle where Democratic candidates have outraised Republican candidates overall, according to the Center for Responsive Politics, and Democratic political action committees have outraised Republican PACs, according to McClatchy’s analysis of fundraising totals of the top 100 non-party PACs.