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pud

climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
Mar 29, 2017 - 05:26pm PT
Who are you power crux?

I'd like to know your name.

Edit: COWARD

got it.
hooblie

climber
from out where the anecdotes roam
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 29, 2017 - 07:47pm PT
https://theintercept.com/2017/03/29/to-serve-att-and-comcast-congressional-gop-votes-to-destroy-online-privacy/

To Serve AT&T and Comcast, Congressional GOP Votes to Destroy Online Privacy

Glenn Greenwald
March 29 2017, 7:53 a.m.

CLARIFYING EVENTS in politics are often healthy even when they produce awful outcomes. Such is the case with yesterday’s vote by House Republicans to free internet service providers (ISPs) – primarily AT&T, Comcast and Verizon – from the Obama-era FCC regulations barring them from storing and selling their users’ browsing histories without their consent. The vote followed an identical one last week in the Senate exclusively along party lines.

It’s hard to overstate what a blow to individual privacy this is. Unlike Silicon Valley giants like Facebook and Google – which can track and sell only those activities of yours which you engage in while using their specific service – ISPs can track everything you do online. “These companies carry all of your Internet traffic and can examine each packet in detail to build up a profile on you,” explained two experts from the Electronic Frontier Foundation. Worse, it is not particularly difficult to avoid using specific services (such as Facebook) that are known to undermine privacy, but consumers often have very few choices for ISPs; it’s a virtual monopoly.

It’s hardly rare for the U.S. Congress to enact measures gutting online privacy: indeed, the last two decades have ushered in a legislative scheme that implements a virtually ubiquitous Surveillance State composed of both public intelligence and military agencies along with their private-sector “partners.” Members of Congress voting for these pro-surveillance measures invariably offer the pretext that they are acting for the benefit of American citizens – whose privacy they are gutting – by Keeping Them Safe™.

But what distinguishes this latest vote is that this pretext is unavailable. Nobody can claim with a straight face that allowing AT&T and Comcast to sell their users’ browser histories has any relationship to national security. Indeed, there’s no minimally persuasive rationale that can be concocted for this vote. It manifestly has only one purpose: maximizing the commercial interests of these telecom giants at the expense of ordinary citizens. It’s so blatant here that it cannot even be disguised.

That’s why, despite its devastating harm for individual privacy, there is a beneficial aspect to this episode. It illustrates – for those who haven’t yet realized it – who actually dominates Congress and owns its members: the corporate donor class.

There is literally no constituency in favor of this bill other than these telecom giants. It’d be surprising if even a single voter who cast their ballot for Trump or a GOP Congress even thought about, let alone favored, rescission of privacy-protecting rules for ISPs. So blatant is the corporate-donor servitude here that there’s no pretext even available for pretending this benefits ordinary citizens. It’s a bill written exclusively by and for a small number of corporate giants exclusively for their commercial benefit at the expense of everyone else.

Right-wing outlets like Breitbart tried hard to sell the bill to their readers. But the only rationale they could provide was that it’s intended to “undo duplicitous regulation around consumer privacy,” which, they suggested, was unfair to telecoms that faced harsher regulations than social media companies. To justify this, Breitbart quoted a GOP Congresswoman, Martha Blackburn, as claiming that the regulation is “unnecessary and just another example of big government overreach.” When the Senate GOP voted last week to undo the restriction, Texas Sen. John Cornyn invoked the right-wing cliché that it “hurt job creators and stifle economic growth.”

But the inane idea that individuals should lose all online privacy protections in the name of regulatory consistency or maximizing corporate profits is something that is almost impossible to sell even to the most loyal ideologues. As Matt Stoller noted, there was “lots of anger in the comments section of Breitbart against the GOP for revoking the Obama privacy regs for ISPs.”

THIS RECOGNITION – of who owns and controls Congress – is absolutely fundamental to understanding any U.S. political issue. And it does – or at least should – transcend both partisan and ideological allegiance because it prevails in both parties.

I still recall very vividly when I attended the 2008 Democratic National Convention in Denver. It was just months after the Democratic Congress (with ample help from the Bush White House and GOP members) spearheaded a truly corrupt bill to vest the telecom industry with retroactive immunity for having broken the law in allowing the NSA to access their American customers’ calls and records without the warrants required by law (that was the 2008 bill which Obama, when seeking the Democratic nomination, vowed to filibuster, only to then flagrantly violate his promise by voting against a filibuster and for the bill itself once he had the nomination secured).

The sole beneficiaries of that bill were AT&T, Verizon, Sprint and the other telecom giants who faced serious civil and even criminal liability for this lawbreaking. The main forces ensuring its passage were the Bush White House and the Democratic Chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, Jay Rockefeller, whose campaign coffers enjoyed a massive surge of telecom donations immediately before he championed their cause.
The first thing one noticed upon arriving on the DNC grounds was the AT&T logo everywhere: they were a major sponsor of the convention, with everything from huge signs to tote bags for the delegates carrying their logo.

The apex of this flagrant corruption was when AT&T threw a lavish party for the party centrists who helped pass the bill – entitled “AT&T thanks the Blue Dogs” – which both Democracy Now’s Amy Goodman and I attended in the totally futile attempt to interview the hordes of Democratic lobbyists, delegates and corporate donors who toasted one another:


Like most people, I had known on a rational level for quite some time that corporate donors dictate what happens in Congress – that they literally write the laws – regardless of the outcome of elections. But watching that stream of corporate and political power slink in to that venue and congregate together in such blatant corruption, and the secrecy surrounding it, really underscored the reality of this all on a visceral level. That’s the permanent power faction of Washington and they try hard, with great success, to make themselves impenetrable to outside influences – such as democracy, transparency, and ordinary citizens.

Perhaps this latest episode of pure corporate servitude – this time delivered by the Congressional GOP, at the expense of individual privacy, with virtually unanimous Democratic opposition – will have a similar effect on others, including those who worked to elect this Republican Congress.

This, of course, is the “swamp” that Trump vowed to “drain,” the oozing corruption of both parties that he endlessly denounced (just as Obama did before him in 2008). If Trump signs this bill, as expected, perhaps it will open more eyes about how Washington really works, who really controls it, for whose benefit it functions, and the serious difficulty of changing it even when you elect politicians who swear over and over that they oppose it all.
hooblie

climber
from out where the anecdotes roam
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 29, 2017 - 07:50pm PT
https://www.gofundme.com/searchinternethistory

I am Adam McElhaney, a privacy activist & net neutrality Advocate from Chattanooga, Tn.

I think that your private Internet history should be yours. I also believe your Internet should be neutral.
I am raising money to help secure those freedoms.
It is my ultimate hope that we will be able to use the donations to restore our right to privacy.



What started it all:

Thanks to the Senate for passing S.J.Res 34 , now your Internet history can be bought.

I plan on purchasing the Internet histories of all legislators, congressmen, executives, and their families and make them easily searchable at searchinternethistory.com.

Everything from their medical, pornographic, to their financial and infidelity.

Anything they have looked at, searched for, or visited on the Internet will now be available for everyone to comb through.

Help me raise money to buy the histories of those who took away your right to privacy for just thousands of dollars from telephone and ISPs. Your private data will be bought and sold to marketing companies, law enforcement.

Let's turn the tables. Let's buy THEIR history and make it available.

---------


Check me out on Twitter or Facebook to see who I am.

I didn't censor any of my accounts or pictures. What you see is what you get.

Yes, I use social media. I understand that what I put on the Internet is out there and not private. Those are the risks you assume. I'm not ashamed of what I put out on the Internet.

However, I don't think that what I lookup on the Internet, what sites I visit, my browsing habits, should be bought and sold to whoever. Without my consent.

Join me in the fight to turn the tables and do whatever it takes to take back your privacy.
pud

climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
Mar 29, 2017 - 07:55pm PT
And now an unbiased report on the same subject.


http://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2017/03/28/521813464/as-congress-repeals-internet-privacy-rules-putting-your-options-in-perspective
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Mar 29, 2017 - 08:11pm PT
Pud... Nothing to worry about here other than Trump and his bitches in Congress support it. Same rascals that wanted to take health care away from 20 million Americans...What could go wrong..?
pud

climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
Mar 29, 2017 - 08:17pm PT
RJ,
You're referring to those "covered" by this insurance?

You can read the entire unbiased report here:
http://time.com/money/4535394/obamacare-plan-premium-price-increases-2017-states/


The Affordable Care Act is getting a lot less affordable for many Americans. The landmark law, better known as Obamacare, has meant that 20 million previously uninsured people now have health coverage. Many of them have purchased insurance through state or federally run marketplaces. But insurance companies have been abandoning these marketplaces left and right because they say it's difficult to turn a profit, and the insurers that remain are asking for steep price increases all over the country.

In Michigan, for example, state officials just approved price hikes of 16.7%, on average, for individuals purchasing health insurance in 2017 through the state's Affordable Care Act exchange. Individual buyers can expect average increases of 20% in Colorado, meanwhile, and price hikes of 19% to 43% in Iowa next year.

Such price increases are actually on the low side compared with states like Minnesota and Oklahoma, where individual plans will shoot up 50% or more on November 1, which is when signups for 2017 coverage on marketplaces are opened.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Mar 29, 2017 - 08:35pm PT
Trump hasn't taken any actions that will make America great again.
All of his EOs have been aimed squarely at saying phuck you to Obama, who he hates.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Mar 29, 2017 - 08:51pm PT
Pud.. The ACA would be more afordable if the insurance companies were cut out of the deal.. But i'm sure you knew this..
pud

climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
Mar 29, 2017 - 08:57pm PT
The ACA would be more afordable if the insurance companies were cut out of the deal.. But i'm sure you knew this..

What you are saying is, if it were a different plan it would work.
Tobia

Social climber
Denial
Mar 30, 2017 - 01:53am PT


Bro Hooblie, How are ya?

Does the new ISP law mean that AT&T will connect me, tobia, to the pseudo-personality that surfs the web and shops away from the taco? The intel they can (have) gather(ed) is startling. Maybe they will start including a copy of my search history with my bill each month, so i can discover more about myself.

Nothing is sacred on the internet.
hooblie

climber
from out where the anecdotes roam
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 30, 2017 - 02:27am PT
cheers biggie! just hangin' out, gettin' my o'garchy on

So blatant is the corporate-donor servitude here that there’s no pretext even available for pretending this benefits ordinary citizens. It’s a bill written exclusively by and for a small number of corporate giants exclusively for their commercial benefit at the expense of everyone else.

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healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Mar 30, 2017 - 05:30am PT
What you are saying is, if it were a different plan it would work.

The ACA blew from day one. It blew because it wasn't single-payer and for-profit insurance companies (read that as parasites) were still involved. That single issue is why I didn't vote for Obama in the '08 primaries. So long as basic healthcare is a for-profit operation all Americans will continue to be poorer for it and remain one crisis from bankruptcy.
crankster

Trad climber
No. Tahoe
Mar 30, 2017 - 07:21am PT
healyje, hard to disagree but certainly you're aware there would have to be a titanic shift in the political landscape to accomplish single payer in the US. Our healthcare system is a sham, a disgrace, yes. Insurance and pharmaceutical companies rule the day. $$$ buys influence and votes. Threaten them and they'll run nonstop ads showing families crying over the kitchen table because they're losing their choice of doctors, etc.

Obama didn't accomplish single payer because he couldn't. Bernie couldn't deliver it to Vermont. It ain't going to be easy. Anyone who promises it is lying.
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Mar 30, 2017 - 07:29am PT
Obama didn't accomplish single payer because he couldn't.

While I agree he couldn't, being from Chicago the issue was more about the fact he wouldn't. He was involved with the insurance industry in Illinois which is sizeable, and so never had the slightest intention of trying single-payer.

As far as why the strong emphasis on single-payer, I've been involved with software development for the insurance industry in the past and the cost of developing, maintaining and operating of many, many duplicate administrative systems for a single function runs into hundreds of billions annually - it's so beyond stupid and ignorant that it boggles the mind.
crankster

Trad climber
No. Tahoe
Mar 30, 2017 - 07:38am PT
There's no single payer savior, sorry. Hopefully, a state will find the political will, succeed, and be used as an example for the rest of the country.
WBraun

climber
Mar 30, 2017 - 07:41am PT
There's no single payer savior

Yes there is.

And he's not material like the materialist fools.

Do not respond, we already know what your stoopid response will be ....
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Mar 30, 2017 - 07:53am PT
Why couldn't the insurance companies be treated like utilities? Congress could be the utility commission (I know) that sets the rates and tells them they WILL cover every condition except obesity and stoopidity.
crankster

Trad climber
No. Tahoe
Mar 30, 2017 - 07:57am PT
There is no single payer god, either. Not here on Earth.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Mar 30, 2017 - 08:20am PT
We the people should assume the role of death panels and eliminate government health care insurance for congress and the senate ( corporate pimps ) until they can come up with an affordable plan to insure all of America..
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Mar 30, 2017 - 08:28am PT
Why get the government involved in health care when the private sector has been doing such a great job taking care of us. If we went single payer we would risk losing the #1 spot on the per capita spending list. USA! USA! USA!

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