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hooblie

climber
from out where the anecdotes roam
Topic Author's Original Post - Mar 27, 2017 - 06:58am PT
here's where we draw attention to worthy essays on a broad range of topics. most of mine will be anything but political, but oh well.

Maureen Dowd, New York Times, March
15, 2017

"Donald, this i will tell you"

Dear Donald,

We’ve known each other a long time, so I think I can be blunt.

You know how you said at campaign rallies that you did not like being identified as a politician?

Don’t worry. No one will ever mistake you for a politician.

After this past week, they won’t even mistake you for a top-notch negotiator.

I was born here. The first image in my memory bank is the Capitol, all lit up at night. And my primary observation about Washington is this: Unless you’re careful, you end up turning into what you started out scorning.

And you, Donald, are getting a reputation as a sucker. And worse, a sucker who is a tool of the D.C. establishment.

Your whole campaign was mocking your rivals and the D.C. elite, jawing about how Americans had turned into losers, with our bad deals and open borders and the Obamacare “disaster.”

And you were going to fly in on your gilded plane and fix all that in a snap.

You mused that a good role model would be Ronald Reagan. As you saw it, Reagan was a big, good-looking guy with a famous pompadour; he had also been a Democrat and an entertainer. But Reagan had one key quality that you don’t have: He knew what he didn’t know.

You both resembled Macy’s Thanksgiving Day balloons, floating above the nitty-gritty and focusing on a few big thoughts. But President Reagan was confident enough to accept that he needed experts below, deftly maneuvering the strings.

You’re just careening around on your own, crashing into buildings and losing altitude, growling at the cameras and spewing nasty conspiracy theories, instead of offering a sunny smile, bipartisanship, optimism and professionalism.

You promised to get the best people around you in the White House, the best of the best. In fact, “best” is one of your favorite words.

Instead, you dragged that motley skeleton crew into the White House and let them create a feuding, leaking, belligerent, conspiratorial, sycophantic atmosphere. Instead of a smooth, classy operator like James Baker, you have a Manichaean anarchist in Steve Bannon.

You knew the Republicans were full of hot air. They haven’t had to pass anything in a long time, and they have no aptitude for governing. To paraphrase an old Barney Frank line, asking the Republicans to govern is like asking Frank to judge the Miss America contest — “If your heart’s not in it, you don’t do a very good job.”

You knew that Paul Ryan’s vaunted reputation as a policy wonk was fake news. Republicans have been running on repealing and replacing Obamacare for years and they never even bothered to come up with a valid alternative.

And neither did you, despite all your promises to replace Obamacare with “something terrific” because you wanted everyone to be covered.

Instead, you sold the D.O.A. bill the Irish undertaker gave you as though it were a luxury condo, ignoring the fact that it was a cruel flimflam, a huge tax cut for the rich disguised as a health care bill. You were so concerned with the “win” that you forgot your “forgotten” Americans, the older, poorer people in rural areas who would be hurt by the bill.

As The Times’s chief Washington correspondent Carl Hulse put it, the G.O.P. falls into clover with a lock on the White House and both houses of Congress, and what’s the first thing it does? Slip on a banana peel. Incompetence Inc.

“They tried to sweeten the deal at the end by offering a more expensive bill with fewer health benefits, but alas, it wasn’t enough!” former Obama speechwriter Jon Favreau slyly tweeted.

Despite the best efforts of Bannon to act as though the whole fiasco was a clever way to bury Ryan — a man he disdains as “the embodiment of the ‘globalist-corporatist’ Republican elite,” as Gabriel Sherman put it in New York magazine — it won’t work.

And you can jump on the phone with The Times’s Maggie Haberman and The Washington Post’s Robert Costa — ignoring that you’ve labeled them the “fake media” — and act like you’re in control. You can say that people should have waited for “Phase 2” and “Phase 3” — whatever they would have been — and that Obamacare is going to explode and that the Democrats are going to get the blame. But it doesn’t work that way. You own it now.

You’re all about flashy marketing so you didn’t notice that the bill was junk, so lame that even Republicans skittered away.

You were humiliated right out of the chute by the establishment guys who hooked you into their agenda — a massive transfer of wealth to rich people — and drew you away from your own.

You sold yourself as the businessman who could shake things up and make Washington work again. Instead, you got worked over by the Republican leadership and the business community, who set you up to do their bidding.

That’s why they’re putting up with all your craziness about Russia and wiretapping and unending lies and rattling our allies.

They’re counting on you being a delusional dupe who didn’t even know what was in the bill because you’re sitting around in a bathrobe getting your information from wackadoodles on Fox News and then, as The Post reported, peppering aides with the query, “Is this really a good bill?”

You got played.

It took W. years to smash everything. You’re way ahead of schedule.

And I can say you’re doing badly, because I’m a columnist, and you’re not. Say hello to everybody, O.K.?

Sincerely, Maureen
crankster

Trad climber
No. Tahoe
Mar 27, 2017 - 07:04am PT
Give her another Pulitzer for that one.
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Mar 27, 2017 - 07:08am PT
" And Ziggy Played Guitar"
Z has and now you ,
the troubles continue to roil
& the best eyes an' eyes of all of us. See it clearly!
Many Don't want to look , Never mind, the Russians have won.
Let's hope that in the shake out
Evil bastardtrump gets moved here
To Danbury Federal Prison in Danbury CT
to be sure he deserves Leanworth but that is to much to hope for.
10b4me

Mountain climber
Retired
Mar 27, 2017 - 07:29am PT
Trump may think he is the second coming of ray gun, but even ray gun's family doesn't believe that.
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Mar 27, 2017 - 07:57am PT
he needs to clean house and that involves admitting he was wrong, a quality Mr. Obama had, and Trump is incapable of.
John M

climber
Mar 27, 2017 - 07:59am PT
Hahahahaha.. great column. Its just hard to fathom how crazy things are right now. Laughing is about the only way to tolerate it.
justthemaid

climber
Jim Henson's Basement
Mar 27, 2017 - 08:03am PT
That gave me a good chuckle over the morning tea. Thanks hooblie
Lollie

Social climber
I'm Lolli.
Mar 27, 2017 - 09:55am PT
Shared that.
Nick Danger

Ice climber
Arvada, CO
Mar 27, 2017 - 10:06am PT
When Maureen is not indulging in snark, and that is one of her favorite pastimes, she can be quite good. She is especially good when she is on a subject that she is personally passionate about. This essay shows how good she can be. I just wished she rose to this level more often and stopped trying to be cute so much of the time. If you want humor with your insight Ms Petrie and Ms Collins are your best bet.
Mighty Hiker

climber
Outside the Asylum
Mar 27, 2017 - 10:07am PT
Dowd may be a columnist, but Trump is a communist - a commie stooge, anyway.
F

climber
away from the ground
Mar 27, 2017 - 10:21am PT
I saw that column the other day also. Spot on.
Studly

Trad climber
WA
Mar 27, 2017 - 11:13am PT
Hell is empty and all the devils are here.

 William Shakespeare

thebravecowboy

climber
The Good Places
Mar 27, 2017 - 11:25am PT
[Click to View YouTube Video]
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Mar 27, 2017 - 11:51am PT
Is it just my imagination, or have we not heard too much from Presidential SpokesCobra Kellyanne ConJob lately?


Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Mar 27, 2017 - 12:58pm PT
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/02/15/morning-joe-has-blacklisted-kellyanne-conway-and-thats-not-all/?utm_term=.5e8cb2d99362
WBraun

climber
Mar 27, 2017 - 01:50pm PT
While the stoopid American main loon media continuously focuses on the idiot Trump the real perpetrators of the corrupt US administration is never focused on.

These traitors in our upper echelon of US go on unheeded with no restrictions, administration after administration.

Americans and their stoopid media are way too stoopid to even know what's really going behind the curtain.

Just follow the clown car of the brainwashed mainstream idiot media and their daily whitewashed stoopid reporting.

That's all that's needed for the brainwashed zombie American robots ......
pud

climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
Mar 27, 2017 - 02:14pm PT
The American press is a shame and a reproach to a civilized people. When a man is too lazy to work and too cowardly to steal, he becomes an editor and manufactures public opinion.

 William Tecumseh Sherman
crankster

Trad climber
No. Tahoe
Mar 27, 2017 - 02:26pm PT
Upthread is one of the most unintelligible rants ever posted on the forum. Always fishing for red herrings, this dude. Notice these mysterious black helicopter operators never have names?

Back on Earth, this line is one of Dowd's best...
ou sold yourself as the businessman who could shake things up and make Washington work again. Instead, you got worked over by the Republican leadership and the business community, who set you up to do their bidding.

That’s why they’re putting up with all your craziness about Russia and wiretapping and unending lies and rattling our allies.
NutAgain!

Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
Mar 27, 2017 - 02:54pm PT
Here's another nice commentary article looking at what is being put on Jared's shoulders:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/jared-kushner-everything-czar_us_58d95499e4b02a2eaab6664f

The imagined daily schedule for Jared was snarky, but gave me a good chuckle.
Fat Dad

Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
Mar 27, 2017 - 03:16pm PT
pud, why not admit that the guy is an embarrassment rather than attacking everyone and everything but him?
pud

climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
Mar 27, 2017 - 03:38pm PT
Fat Dad et al..

You are sheep grazing in each other's pastures of hate.
Original thought eludes you.
Fed to you by the bitter old men and women of the press, your thoughts are sculpted by their frustrated drivel.

Follow as you will.
Leading is not for you.
Your candidate lost. Be a gracious loser or just a loser.
Makes no difference to me.
dirtbag

climber
Mar 27, 2017 - 03:41pm PT
That's very deep, pud.
Fat Dad

Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
Mar 27, 2017 - 03:48pm PT
Sad response pud. Next time I won't bother asking.
eeyonkee

Trad climber
Golden, CO
Mar 27, 2017 - 04:02pm PT
Sheesh, Pud, that's all you got? You got no game. My guess is than Dowd has 50 IQ points on you.
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Mar 27, 2017 - 04:10pm PT
Wakeup Pud, election is over, campaign is over, your man is the leader of the free world. Time for him to start acting like it.
capseeboy

Social climber
portland, oregon
Mar 27, 2017 - 04:29pm PT
News Flash, this just in by way of undisclosed alternutt source:

USA being taken over by Communist and Stalinist.
Obama's wife is a man.
Globalists sunk Trumps Health Bill.
Terrorists are threatening USA.
Poor Homeless sick people threatening to take over.
Bankers care.
Hillary's kill list at 28.
Most Billionaires earned it the old fashioned way.
Donald Duck resigns from Disney over crackers.

pud

climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
Mar 27, 2017 - 05:49pm PT
Here eemonkee, I'll say it in a language you'll understand.

Baa, baa
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Mar 28, 2017 - 08:55am PT
"They never learn."--Our Gang

You're not a worthwhile columnist, are you, Pud?

Admittit, Sucker.

Same old same old riposte
Time after time.

donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Mar 28, 2017 - 09:34am PT
Pud....the country certainly lost. The buffon you and the rest of your minority voted for is a clown on the world stage whos like will (hopefully) never be seen again.
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Mar 28, 2017 - 09:43am PT

The Joker can be seen as a relatively bleak lier, cheater and thief compared to the current American president and his alternative facts and manipulations.

[Click to View YouTube Video]
pud

climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
Mar 28, 2017 - 10:13am PT
Pud....the country certainly lost. The buffon you and the rest of your minority voted for is a clown on the world stage who's like will (hopefully) never be seen again.

I assume you meant buffoon.
Ironic that you use the same word to describe Trump as many used to describe Lincoln.
Do some homework and you may be amazed of the parallels of these two leaders, and their approach to dealing with Washington insiders.
Curt

climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
Mar 28, 2017 - 10:42am PT
Ironic that you use the same word to describe Trump as many used to describe Lincoln.
Do some homework and you may be amazed of the parallels of these two leaders, and their approach to dealing with Washington insiders.

Trump and Lincoln could hardly be more different in their approach. Trump surrounds himself only with loyal, sycophant flunkies while Lincoln put three of his harshest critics and rivals in his Cabinet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Team_of_Rivals

Curt
Norton

Social climber
Mar 28, 2017 - 10:52am PT
yes, Trump and Lincoln were much the same

for example: Lincoln freed black people from slavery

and Trump was sued, twice, by the Federal government for refusing to rent to black people

see? they both had something to do with black people
dirtbag

climber
Mar 28, 2017 - 10:56am PT
Though to be fair, Lincoln probably grabbed women by the pussy when he felt like it.
canyoncat

Social climber
SoCal
Mar 28, 2017 - 10:58am PT
but, her emails
crankster

Trad climber
No. Tahoe
Mar 28, 2017 - 11:51am PT
And that Parkinson's.
ecdh

climber
the east
Mar 28, 2017 - 03:15pm PT
decent letter, perhaps too long. got wayward in the middle, but as a columnist thats bound to happen.

good points but i disagree with Trump being a bad business man - hes doing what all CEOs do with shareholders, seeing what the lowest common denominator is, what people will let them get away with. give him a year or two of trialing the demographics, see what and who sticks. then when he has a base of followers who will soak up every kick to the nuts by believing its good for them he will use them as a human shield and push out his dumbest ideas yet.

where the democrats milk emotional handwringers, pseudo-intellectuals and people who think smoking grass makes you free, trump will milk gun nuts, small town laborers and people who love their cars.

yoknow if mccain hadntf*#ked up by running with that palin moron all this may have been avoided.
thebravecowboy

climber
The Good Places
Mar 28, 2017 - 03:48pm PT
I think he meant bouffant
NutAgain!

Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
Mar 28, 2017 - 04:14pm PT
I doubt a person who compares Trump and Lincoln has ever read the transcript of the Gettysburg Address. It's a good reminder for our times. Who can imagine these words of wisdom issuing forth from Trump's mouth, even if someone else wrote them? He'd have to interrupt himself with 87 tangents before he reached the end.


Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.

Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle-field of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.

But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate -- we can not consecrate -- we can not hallow -- this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us -- that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion -- that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain -- that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom -- and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.

Abraham Lincoln
November 19, 1863



p.s. He did not say "government of the people, by the people, for the corporations and wealthiest among us." For every decision our government makes, think about how it will affect you personally, how it will affect the people in the community in which you live, and how it will affect hundreds of millions of people across our country and around the world.
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Mar 28, 2017 - 04:17pm PT
Who can imagine these words of wisdom issuing forth from Trump's mouth

Trump would say whatever he needs to say at any given moment if it is to his advantage. Not a damn thing that comes out of his mouth is believable. Even the few faithful on here are beginning to realize that.
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Mar 28, 2017 - 04:29pm PT
The Gettysburg Address with it's solemnity, reverence, truth, humanity, brevity and cadence remains the greatest political address in this nation's history. To compare a crude creature like Trump favorably to Lincoln cannot but make any serious person laugh.
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Mar 28, 2017 - 04:40pm PT
it is absolutely terrifying that 36% of the population thinks trump is doing a good job.
WBraun

climber
Mar 28, 2017 - 04:44pm PT
36% of the population thinks trump is doing a good job.

That means 64% say he sucks.

America is for the people by the people.

But the people have no say.

Otherwise, the 64% would throw him out.

You Americans have been 0wned since forever ......
crankster

Trad climber
No. Tahoe
Mar 28, 2017 - 04:49pm PT
Polls go up and down. What matters is who votes on Election Day. If he's at 36% in Nov '18 (if his Russia lies haven't caught up to him by then) the Dems should do well.
Largo

Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
Mar 28, 2017 - 05:55pm PT
One wonders what, specifically, is Trump doing to be proud of, what he's doing to "make America great?" Once a president is elected, it's all about actions. What actions has Don taken that people are defending, people like Pud? I think many were simply hoodwinked by Trump's rhetoric, and that he was not some foo foo left wing nut, rather an old school white guy who when they looked at him, they recognized something of themselves.

This ain't no Camelot...
10b4me

Mountain climber
Retired
Mar 28, 2017 - 06:27pm PT

Mar 28, 2017 - 05:55pm PT
One wonders what, specifically, is Trump doing to be proud of, what he's doing to "make America great?" Once a president is elected, it's all about actions. What actions has Don taken that people are defending, people like Pud? I think many were simply hoodwinked by Trump's rhetoric, and that he was not some foo foo left wing nut, rather an old school white guy who when they looked at him, they recognized something of themselves.

This ain't no Camelot...

Well said, John, but trump, and his supporters definition of what is good for America is something that existed in the fifties.

rather an old school white guywho when they looked at him, they recognized something of themselves.
white guy being the imperative description.
pud

climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
Mar 28, 2017 - 06:30pm PT
What actions has Don taken that people are defending, people like Pud?


John,

You're an intelligent guy. I don't typically view you as a follower.

I do not 'defend' Trump as much as I defend our right to make a choice at the ballot box and to support one's chosen candidate.
The complainers here have nothing to show because of their lack of effort.
They earned everything they cry over by not participating. Sitting home and believing polls. Now they are a sorry bunch. Oh well.

Donald Trump was sick and tired of what our government was doing and did something about it. NONE of the people complaining on this thread can say as much.
I believe Trump will right some significant wrongs done by previous administrations and allow the middle class the opportunities they have earned.
As far as what he's done to date.
His Admin is currently enforcing laws voters had approved long ago but, had been shelved by the spineless Obama camp due to their overt political incorrectness.
His destruction of wasteful agencies is welcome and long overdue.
His actions today saved thousands of families from losing their livelihood.
Also saving billions of taxpayer dollars from being wasted on the hoax that is man made climate change.
Ford building plants in Michigan show the real benefits of having a business friendly and competent commander in chief.

Talk to the parents of the 14 year old girl recently raped in a high school bathroom by an adult illegal alien and see how much they agree with the status quo. One of the criminals involved in the rape was detained by authorities then released under Obama's "catch and release" policy last summer. Can you or anyone here defend that?

Stomp your feet and wave your fists all you want, however, showing up to vote may serve you better next time.

-Wayne



Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Mar 28, 2017 - 07:20pm PT
Pud - too much alternative facting in that one to waste my time on.
thebravecowboy

climber
The Good Places
Mar 28, 2017 - 07:28pm PT
I can't think of a single person who defends sexual assault.

Besides Donald Trump. Who bragged about it.
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Mar 28, 2017 - 07:34pm PT
I doubt a person who compares Trump and Lincoln has ever read the transcript of the Gettysburg Address.

You may be right about that, but then, how many people who dump on Trump have read the Lincoln/Douglas debates? [And no, I have nothing but contempt for Donald Trump, but Abraham Lincoln was a politician, not a saint -- something that most Americans forget.]

And as for Pud...
His actions today saved thousands of families from losing their livelihood.

What actions?

It's easy to make sweeping statements like this, but they're meaningless until you get specific. What did Pres Trump do today, and how did that save thousands of families from losing their livelihoods?

Ditto to most of the other claims you made. If you could be more specific, it would be easier to agree or disagree with you. But what you've said -- well, other than your calling climate change "a hoax" -- is so vague that it is impossible to comment on.
pud

climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
Mar 28, 2017 - 07:40pm PT
What actions?

Today:
http://ktla.com/2017/03/28/trump-signs-executive-order-rolling-back-obama-era-climate-protections/

A month ago

[Click to View YouTube Video]
thebravecowboy

climber
The Good Places
Mar 28, 2017 - 07:42pm PT
can you use your own words to help us understand the actions and perceived results?
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Mar 28, 2017 - 07:43pm PT
His Admin is currently enforcing laws voters had approved long ago but, had been shelved by the spineless Obama camp due to their overt political incorrectness.

Such as?
pud

climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
Mar 28, 2017 - 07:51pm PT
Such as?

On Nov. 20, 2014, President Barack Obama announced he was taking executive action to delay the deportation of some 5 million illegal immigrants. Under the new policy people who are parents of U.S. citizens or legal residents will receive deportation deferrals and authorization to work legally if they have been in the U.S. for more than five years and pass background checks. Obama's action also amended the 2012 Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, which allows people under age 31 who were brought to the U.S. as children to apply for two-year deportation deferrals and work permits. Obama's policy change lifted the age ceiling and added a year to the deferral period. Twenty-six states challenged the executive order, and in February 2015 a federal judge issued a preliminary injunction, temporarily blocking the provisions of the executive order while the states pursued a lawsuit to permanently shut down the program.
Contractor

Boulder climber
CA
Mar 28, 2017 - 08:01pm PT
Trump must have a secret anal gland that emits attraction pheromones. It's the only plausible reason any person would support such a repulsive human.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Mar 28, 2017 - 08:23pm PT
So far Trump's presidency , employing his inexperienced family members to prestigious government positions , reminds me of a zany Beverly Hillbilly's parody...
10b4me

Mountain climber
Retired
Mar 28, 2017 - 08:40pm PT
Anybody see the piece, on the news, about Ivanka encouraging school girls to study science, while at the same time her daddy was cutting funds for education?
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Mar 29, 2017 - 02:30am PT
Ironic that you use the same word to describe Trump as many used to describe Lincoln.

Wow! I mean wow as in I'm incredulous anyone would consider using those two names in the same sentence. And every post since this one is progressively more delusional and devoid of facts then the previous one. Good to know just how f*#ked up these folks can be.

Dude, fact check: every single piece of paper trump has signed to date has been aimed squarely at f*#king the average working American family.
crankster

Trad climber
No. Tahoe
Mar 29, 2017 - 06:10am PT
Trump must have a secret anal gland that emits attraction pheromones. It's the only plausible reason any person would support such a repulsive human.

You got it! Has to be it. The chemicals released into the environment during his 3 AM bathroom Tweeting sessions effect his followers ability to distinguish right from wrong.
Contractor

Boulder climber
CA
Mar 29, 2017 - 07:08am PT
Oh boy, that's a gross picture. No wonder Melania and Barron are staying in New York.
pud

climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
Mar 29, 2017 - 05:26pm PT
Who are you power crux?

I'd like to know your name.

Edit: COWARD

got it.
hooblie

climber
from out where the anecdotes roam
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 29, 2017 - 07:47pm PT
https://theintercept.com/2017/03/29/to-serve-att-and-comcast-congressional-gop-votes-to-destroy-online-privacy/

To Serve AT&T and Comcast, Congressional GOP Votes to Destroy Online Privacy

Glenn Greenwald
March 29 2017, 7:53 a.m.

CLARIFYING EVENTS in politics are often healthy even when they produce awful outcomes. Such is the case with yesterday’s vote by House Republicans to free internet service providers (ISPs) – primarily AT&T, Comcast and Verizon – from the Obama-era FCC regulations barring them from storing and selling their users’ browsing histories without their consent. The vote followed an identical one last week in the Senate exclusively along party lines.

It’s hard to overstate what a blow to individual privacy this is. Unlike Silicon Valley giants like Facebook and Google – which can track and sell only those activities of yours which you engage in while using their specific service – ISPs can track everything you do online. “These companies carry all of your Internet traffic and can examine each packet in detail to build up a profile on you,” explained two experts from the Electronic Frontier Foundation. Worse, it is not particularly difficult to avoid using specific services (such as Facebook) that are known to undermine privacy, but consumers often have very few choices for ISPs; it’s a virtual monopoly.

It’s hardly rare for the U.S. Congress to enact measures gutting online privacy: indeed, the last two decades have ushered in a legislative scheme that implements a virtually ubiquitous Surveillance State composed of both public intelligence and military agencies along with their private-sector “partners.” Members of Congress voting for these pro-surveillance measures invariably offer the pretext that they are acting for the benefit of American citizens – whose privacy they are gutting – by Keeping Them Safe™.

But what distinguishes this latest vote is that this pretext is unavailable. Nobody can claim with a straight face that allowing AT&T and Comcast to sell their users’ browser histories has any relationship to national security. Indeed, there’s no minimally persuasive rationale that can be concocted for this vote. It manifestly has only one purpose: maximizing the commercial interests of these telecom giants at the expense of ordinary citizens. It’s so blatant here that it cannot even be disguised.

That’s why, despite its devastating harm for individual privacy, there is a beneficial aspect to this episode. It illustrates – for those who haven’t yet realized it – who actually dominates Congress and owns its members: the corporate donor class.

There is literally no constituency in favor of this bill other than these telecom giants. It’d be surprising if even a single voter who cast their ballot for Trump or a GOP Congress even thought about, let alone favored, rescission of privacy-protecting rules for ISPs. So blatant is the corporate-donor servitude here that there’s no pretext even available for pretending this benefits ordinary citizens. It’s a bill written exclusively by and for a small number of corporate giants exclusively for their commercial benefit at the expense of everyone else.

Right-wing outlets like Breitbart tried hard to sell the bill to their readers. But the only rationale they could provide was that it’s intended to “undo duplicitous regulation around consumer privacy,” which, they suggested, was unfair to telecoms that faced harsher regulations than social media companies. To justify this, Breitbart quoted a GOP Congresswoman, Martha Blackburn, as claiming that the regulation is “unnecessary and just another example of big government overreach.” When the Senate GOP voted last week to undo the restriction, Texas Sen. John Cornyn invoked the right-wing cliché that it “hurt job creators and stifle economic growth.”

But the inane idea that individuals should lose all online privacy protections in the name of regulatory consistency or maximizing corporate profits is something that is almost impossible to sell even to the most loyal ideologues. As Matt Stoller noted, there was “lots of anger in the comments section of Breitbart against the GOP for revoking the Obama privacy regs for ISPs.”

THIS RECOGNITION – of who owns and controls Congress – is absolutely fundamental to understanding any U.S. political issue. And it does – or at least should – transcend both partisan and ideological allegiance because it prevails in both parties.

I still recall very vividly when I attended the 2008 Democratic National Convention in Denver. It was just months after the Democratic Congress (with ample help from the Bush White House and GOP members) spearheaded a truly corrupt bill to vest the telecom industry with retroactive immunity for having broken the law in allowing the NSA to access their American customers’ calls and records without the warrants required by law (that was the 2008 bill which Obama, when seeking the Democratic nomination, vowed to filibuster, only to then flagrantly violate his promise by voting against a filibuster and for the bill itself once he had the nomination secured).

The sole beneficiaries of that bill were AT&T, Verizon, Sprint and the other telecom giants who faced serious civil and even criminal liability for this lawbreaking. The main forces ensuring its passage were the Bush White House and the Democratic Chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, Jay Rockefeller, whose campaign coffers enjoyed a massive surge of telecom donations immediately before he championed their cause.
The first thing one noticed upon arriving on the DNC grounds was the AT&T logo everywhere: they were a major sponsor of the convention, with everything from huge signs to tote bags for the delegates carrying their logo.

The apex of this flagrant corruption was when AT&T threw a lavish party for the party centrists who helped pass the bill – entitled “AT&T thanks the Blue Dogs” – which both Democracy Now’s Amy Goodman and I attended in the totally futile attempt to interview the hordes of Democratic lobbyists, delegates and corporate donors who toasted one another:


Like most people, I had known on a rational level for quite some time that corporate donors dictate what happens in Congress – that they literally write the laws – regardless of the outcome of elections. But watching that stream of corporate and political power slink in to that venue and congregate together in such blatant corruption, and the secrecy surrounding it, really underscored the reality of this all on a visceral level. That’s the permanent power faction of Washington and they try hard, with great success, to make themselves impenetrable to outside influences – such as democracy, transparency, and ordinary citizens.

Perhaps this latest episode of pure corporate servitude – this time delivered by the Congressional GOP, at the expense of individual privacy, with virtually unanimous Democratic opposition – will have a similar effect on others, including those who worked to elect this Republican Congress.

This, of course, is the “swamp” that Trump vowed to “drain,” the oozing corruption of both parties that he endlessly denounced (just as Obama did before him in 2008). If Trump signs this bill, as expected, perhaps it will open more eyes about how Washington really works, who really controls it, for whose benefit it functions, and the serious difficulty of changing it even when you elect politicians who swear over and over that they oppose it all.
hooblie

climber
from out where the anecdotes roam
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 29, 2017 - 07:50pm PT
https://www.gofundme.com/searchinternethistory

I am Adam McElhaney, a privacy activist & net neutrality Advocate from Chattanooga, Tn.

I think that your private Internet history should be yours. I also believe your Internet should be neutral.
I am raising money to help secure those freedoms.
It is my ultimate hope that we will be able to use the donations to restore our right to privacy.



What started it all:

Thanks to the Senate for passing S.J.Res 34 , now your Internet history can be bought.

I plan on purchasing the Internet histories of all legislators, congressmen, executives, and their families and make them easily searchable at searchinternethistory.com.

Everything from their medical, pornographic, to their financial and infidelity.

Anything they have looked at, searched for, or visited on the Internet will now be available for everyone to comb through.

Help me raise money to buy the histories of those who took away your right to privacy for just thousands of dollars from telephone and ISPs. Your private data will be bought and sold to marketing companies, law enforcement.

Let's turn the tables. Let's buy THEIR history and make it available.

---------


Check me out on Twitter or Facebook to see who I am.

I didn't censor any of my accounts or pictures. What you see is what you get.

Yes, I use social media. I understand that what I put on the Internet is out there and not private. Those are the risks you assume. I'm not ashamed of what I put out on the Internet.

However, I don't think that what I lookup on the Internet, what sites I visit, my browsing habits, should be bought and sold to whoever. Without my consent.

Join me in the fight to turn the tables and do whatever it takes to take back your privacy.
pud

climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
Mar 29, 2017 - 07:55pm PT
And now an unbiased report on the same subject.


http://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2017/03/28/521813464/as-congress-repeals-internet-privacy-rules-putting-your-options-in-perspective
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Mar 29, 2017 - 08:11pm PT
Pud... Nothing to worry about here other than Trump and his bitches in Congress support it. Same rascals that wanted to take health care away from 20 million Americans...What could go wrong..?
pud

climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
Mar 29, 2017 - 08:17pm PT
RJ,
You're referring to those "covered" by this insurance?

You can read the entire unbiased report here:
http://time.com/money/4535394/obamacare-plan-premium-price-increases-2017-states/


The Affordable Care Act is getting a lot less affordable for many Americans. The landmark law, better known as Obamacare, has meant that 20 million previously uninsured people now have health coverage. Many of them have purchased insurance through state or federally run marketplaces. But insurance companies have been abandoning these marketplaces left and right because they say it's difficult to turn a profit, and the insurers that remain are asking for steep price increases all over the country.

In Michigan, for example, state officials just approved price hikes of 16.7%, on average, for individuals purchasing health insurance in 2017 through the state's Affordable Care Act exchange. Individual buyers can expect average increases of 20% in Colorado, meanwhile, and price hikes of 19% to 43% in Iowa next year.

Such price increases are actually on the low side compared with states like Minnesota and Oklahoma, where individual plans will shoot up 50% or more on November 1, which is when signups for 2017 coverage on marketplaces are opened.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Mar 29, 2017 - 08:35pm PT
Trump hasn't taken any actions that will make America great again.
All of his EOs have been aimed squarely at saying phuck you to Obama, who he hates.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Mar 29, 2017 - 08:51pm PT
Pud.. The ACA would be more afordable if the insurance companies were cut out of the deal.. But i'm sure you knew this..
pud

climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
Mar 29, 2017 - 08:57pm PT
The ACA would be more afordable if the insurance companies were cut out of the deal.. But i'm sure you knew this..

What you are saying is, if it were a different plan it would work.
Tobia

Social climber
Denial
Mar 30, 2017 - 01:53am PT


Bro Hooblie, How are ya?

Does the new ISP law mean that AT&T will connect me, tobia, to the pseudo-personality that surfs the web and shops away from the taco? The intel they can (have) gather(ed) is startling. Maybe they will start including a copy of my search history with my bill each month, so i can discover more about myself.

Nothing is sacred on the internet.
hooblie

climber
from out where the anecdotes roam
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 30, 2017 - 02:27am PT
cheers biggie! just hangin' out, gettin' my o'garchy on

So blatant is the corporate-donor servitude here that there’s no pretext even available for pretending this benefits ordinary citizens. It’s a bill written exclusively by and for a small number of corporate giants exclusively for their commercial benefit at the expense of everyone else.

[Click to View YouTube Video]

healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Mar 30, 2017 - 05:30am PT
What you are saying is, if it were a different plan it would work.

The ACA blew from day one. It blew because it wasn't single-payer and for-profit insurance companies (read that as parasites) were still involved. That single issue is why I didn't vote for Obama in the '08 primaries. So long as basic healthcare is a for-profit operation all Americans will continue to be poorer for it and remain one crisis from bankruptcy.
crankster

Trad climber
No. Tahoe
Mar 30, 2017 - 07:21am PT
healyje, hard to disagree but certainly you're aware there would have to be a titanic shift in the political landscape to accomplish single payer in the US. Our healthcare system is a sham, a disgrace, yes. Insurance and pharmaceutical companies rule the day. $$$ buys influence and votes. Threaten them and they'll run nonstop ads showing families crying over the kitchen table because they're losing their choice of doctors, etc.

Obama didn't accomplish single payer because he couldn't. Bernie couldn't deliver it to Vermont. It ain't going to be easy. Anyone who promises it is lying.
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Mar 30, 2017 - 07:29am PT
Obama didn't accomplish single payer because he couldn't.

While I agree he couldn't, being from Chicago the issue was more about the fact he wouldn't. He was involved with the insurance industry in Illinois which is sizeable, and so never had the slightest intention of trying single-payer.

As far as why the strong emphasis on single-payer, I've been involved with software development for the insurance industry in the past and the cost of developing, maintaining and operating of many, many duplicate administrative systems for a single function runs into hundreds of billions annually - it's so beyond stupid and ignorant that it boggles the mind.
crankster

Trad climber
No. Tahoe
Mar 30, 2017 - 07:38am PT
There's no single payer savior, sorry. Hopefully, a state will find the political will, succeed, and be used as an example for the rest of the country.
WBraun

climber
Mar 30, 2017 - 07:41am PT
There's no single payer savior

Yes there is.

And he's not material like the materialist fools.

Do not respond, we already know what your stoopid response will be ....
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Mar 30, 2017 - 07:53am PT
Why couldn't the insurance companies be treated like utilities? Congress could be the utility commission (I know) that sets the rates and tells them they WILL cover every condition except obesity and stoopidity.
crankster

Trad climber
No. Tahoe
Mar 30, 2017 - 07:57am PT
There is no single payer god, either. Not here on Earth.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Mar 30, 2017 - 08:20am PT
We the people should assume the role of death panels and eliminate government health care insurance for congress and the senate ( corporate pimps ) until they can come up with an affordable plan to insure all of America..
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Mar 30, 2017 - 08:28am PT
Why get the government involved in health care when the private sector has been doing such a great job taking care of us. If we went single payer we would risk losing the #1 spot on the per capita spending list. USA! USA! USA!

NutAgain!

Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
Mar 30, 2017 - 08:58am PT
Hooblie, those were good shares.

Pud, I read the NPR piece too which tries to downplay the impact. But here's the thing:
1. I can run ad-block and anti-tracker software (I do)
2. I can delete my cookies that they use as tracking beacons (and I do)
3. I can choose which websites I patronize

But this new law means the only way I can have similar protections is to just not use the Internet, or use something like an onion router to relay my traffic through lots of other peers to avoid the ISP getting a clear picture of everything about me.

I remember as a kid seeing TV shows where the bad guy was beaten in part because he checked out a book from the library about how to claim a temporary insanity defense. Now imagine you are unjustly accused of some terrorist activity, and in part they cite as evidence that you read news from Al Jazeera and you once searched for how to make a bomb from household chemicals. Maybe you're just curious, but that will be selectively pulled to paint an unrealistic picture of who you are.

Everything we say (and ever have said) can and will be used against us. All the time, not just when we are in police custody. This is where we are going. After Elon Musk gets his cyber-implants, then we will have the Thought Police branch of the government too.

pud

climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
Mar 30, 2017 - 09:10am PT
The fact that the majority of the U.S. population is grossly out of shape is the real reason we are unable to provide decent health care coverage to those that deserve and need it.

Negligent and corrupt doctors are equally responsible for the present healthcare fiasco.
Just a single example of this is the over 1 million prostate biopsies performed on men annually due to elevated PSA levels (can be caused by a host of reasons). A 15 minute procedure that is billed on average @ $26,000.
75% of these men show no signs of cancer. Nearly $20,000,000 in unnecessary costs.
Multiply this by all unnecessary procedures performed or recommended and the balance is nearly infinite.


We need to place the blame were it belongs.
pud

climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
Mar 30, 2017 - 09:34am PT
I remember as a kid seeing TV shows where the bad guy was beaten in part because he checked out a book from the library about how to claim a temporary insanity defense. Now imagine you are unjustly accused of some terrorist activity, and in part they cite as evidence that you read news from Al Jazeera and you once searched for how to make a bomb from household chemicals. Maybe you're just curious, but that will be selectively pulled to paint an unrealistic picture of who you are.

These are valid points.
However, the man that was recently convicted of letting his 2 year old son die in a sweltering car in the planned murder, needs to rot in prison for life. Part of the evidence used to convict him was his web searching for details of how to commit this crime.
I have no problem with this.

One needs to be responsible for what one does. This includes web surfing.
To believe no one knows what you search for online in the privacy of your office/home is naive.

If some of the people on this website had to stand up and say the things they type to others here, they would not. The internet provides a false sense of security in this way.
Sometimes this works in the favor of good.
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