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Ksolem

Trad climber
Monrovia, California
Feb 28, 2017 - 11:31pm PT
All I can say is that if I had $35M in discretionary spending money laying around, the very last thing I would do is sign up for a ride on that thing.

Of course it's probably safer than the cars I'd buy...
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Mar 1, 2017 - 12:38am PT
¥
for each there is a button,

It's so easy, we made it so easy for ? for ?

We have fallen to subsitance living

If we have more we use more

when we should have risen to save and share.

Every one wants just a little ketchup,

A There is a thing for that feeling ,

Everyone finds their own thing

That Thing, masks feelings

that thing, helps you forget,

that something is missing

find and step on

move up and past,,

Organized death verses won't save your soul

Nor will Elon Musk,

Anyone now still buying moon shots!?

Will have China to answer to . . , I don't follow the space bs, ya got that ,
But, um . . . China !! ,the moon!
By August !?

for each there is a musthava-givvetomee




Broke you are missing the point

This space exploration gambit is as if it were an opiod for the very rich.
They ,you? Think that there is escape, and if there is escape may-be there is a place to go

Why what would it hurt to clean up after the mess we've made here on our own one planet first?

Let's get on board and save, n' Re-Save.

Save our planet

Earth!

There is no escape

, the science that says there is is fake

If we could go,? You would ?

Would you jump . . If I told you to smoke this . .

I can think of more stupid Shjt

that was fun that I was told

To Do, it fun , it's science !

If you could blast off,

you would go straight to hell

as a privaledge by science

No

we climbers would not

A cat from here

who won't fess up what he climbs or where ?

says com on I challenge you?

I'll up for for that ~ I'm down a pound or two

Your always weak sauce ,

never showing a climbing shot of yourself?

Show what ya got

So few pictures of this gnome have come to light!

Any body hold'n' ?
IWas a short fuzzy thing . . .[Click to View YouTube Video] I'll not be Gettin' on board
There is a way to distract the best and the brightest away from saving the planet,
It has userped the name and the whole game
When at first they said it was in the name of??
That is when we should have known
In the name of. . . . Fill in the blank
In the name of -- "Great Deciever"-- it is no science
It's fiction
Am I getting thru?
Is there a place to go
Yes from the great ditch to the rent in the earth a mile deep
We can only stay live and die on planet
Earth!
£





xx



Retry

Broke you are missing the point

This space exploration gambit is as if it were an opiod for the very rich.
They ,you? Think that there is escape, and if there is escape may-be there is a place to go

Why what would it hurt to clean up after the mess we've made here on our own one planet first?

Let's get on board and save, n' Re-Save.

Save our planet

Earth!

There is no escape

, the science that says there is is fake

If we could go,? You would ?

Would you jump . . If I told you to smoke this . .

I can think of more stupid Shjt

that was fun that I was told

To Do, it fun , it's science !

If you could blast off,

you would go straight to hell

as a privaledge by science

No

we climbers would not

A cat from here

who won't fess up what he climbs or where ?

says com on I challenge you?

I'll up for for that ~ I'm down a pound or two

Your always weak sauce ,

never showing a climbing shot of yourself?

Show what ya got

So few pictures of this gnome have come to light!

Any body hold'n' ?
IWas a short fuzzy thing . . .[youtube=_,,,,, I'll not be Gettin' on board
There is a way to distract the best and the brightest away from saving the planet,
It has userped the name and the whole game
When at first they said it was in the name of??
That is when we should have known
In the name of. . . . Fill in the blank
In the name of -- "Great Deciever"-- it is no science
It's fiction
Am I getting thru?
Is there a place to go
Yes from the great ditch to the rent in the earth a mile deep
We can only stay live and die on planet
Earth!
df
S

Tripped , no not that way, over the kids shoes, slapped the tablet hard against the wall the touch screen is touchy

Does it help if you think of it as a song ?
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Mar 1, 2017 - 01:24am PT
fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Mar 1, 2017 - 06:52am PT
And .... that money ain't yours to throw into space.

It belongs to this planet to take care of its humanity.

Part of taking care of humanity is finding more blue rocks to infect.

This one ain't gonna last forever.

Without warp "engines" though... we won't get to those distant blue rocks but there's still so much to learn in the local neighborhood.

And as a pastime or passion, it beats killing each other down here.
Curt

climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
Mar 1, 2017 - 07:54am PT
There has to be a unmanned flight as no human has been through the Van Allen radiation belt.

THE KILLER ELECTRONS ARE COMING !! Hahahahahaha.

Curt
Ferretlegger

Trad climber
san Jose, CA
Mar 1, 2017 - 08:14am PT
I have HUGE respect for Elon Musk, but i am afraid that this may be an overreach. This trip is like free soloing El Cap. Granted that there is less training and skills, but if ANYTHING goes wrong, there will be a nasty splatter and a huge public relations disaster. If the human race is ever to really get into space for real, risks must be taken, and people WILL die, just as in the beginnings of aviation. But chucking rich tourists into space and listening to them slowly expire when the engine fails and they cannot make earth orbit again will NOT help the cause.

I have, over the years, become rather frustrated with NASA, but there is something to be said for a careful, systematic approach. I really hope this does not go bad, as SpaceX and their ambitions and drive is a bright light in a world sometimes filled with darkness and misery.

Michael
Brokedownclimber

Trad climber
Douglas, WY
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 1, 2017 - 08:25am PT
This is going to be quite a simple mission profile. There will be no engine burns required after the launch. The Falcon Heavy will fire the capsule beyond the Moon, but not fast enough to escape Earth gravity, so it will come back down and re enter the atmosphere as it was designed to do. So...would I go? Yep. This is about as simple as a space launch can get. Meanwhile the 2 astronauts will have the ride of their lifetimes.
the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Mar 1, 2017 - 09:18am PT
There will be no engine burns required after the launch.

They'll need course correction burn(s) to hit the re-entry window, no?
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Mar 1, 2017 - 09:31am PT
They'll need course correction burn(s) to hit the re-entry window, no?


Oh no.... no problems anticipated at all, everybody's been paid--the union too- now-- just climb up on that big ass roman candle, do a countdown and take off. It's all so simple.

good luck to the rich ass suckers, have a blast.

Everest was fun also.
Ksolem

Trad climber
Monrovia, California
Mar 1, 2017 - 09:59am PT
Funny. I misread the thread title every time.

SpaceX to send privately screwed spacecraft beyond moon.

But seriously, I hope for a safe ride and return for those on board.

A question for the rocket scientists here: Is it really a good idea to strap three rockets together, with a total of 27 liquid fueled engines? To the lay person this looks like a large risk for failure. What happens if one of the twenty seven craps out?
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Mar 1, 2017 - 10:04am PT
Well, a Veyron has 16 cylinders strapped together.
Ksolem

Trad climber
Monrovia, California
Mar 1, 2017 - 10:25am PT
I wonder what would happen if one of sixteen threw a rod at 250MPH?
Brokedownclimber

Trad climber
Douglas, WY
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 1, 2017 - 10:27am PT
Engine redundancy is part of the safety planning; a single engine failure occurred once before and the spacecraft still was able to achieve orbit through extended burn time. There's a climb at JTree called Safety in Numbers, I seem to recall?
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Mar 1, 2017 - 10:28am PT
You would wind up in a low earth orbit, at the least!
wbw

Trad climber
'cross the great divide
Mar 1, 2017 - 10:33am PT
We all just paid for a couple rich f*#ks to fly around the moon while Elon Musk makes a nice tidy profit. This country is f*#ked in the head. I seriously hope that capsule suffers a depressurization in the deep cold darkness of space.

This kind of whining completely misses the significance of what SpaceX is trying to do. If we waited for NASA to push the boundary of space exploration to the next level, we're talking about a time scale of decades. Elon Musk has the vision of putting people on Mars in a matter of a few years. Whether or not this is a good idea is one question, but I don't understand all the hating going on towards SpaceX.

Personally, I am a big fan of Elon Musk. He sets goals that members of the status quo call unrealistic, pursues them with (mostly) his own money, and achieves the "unrealistic" goals a surprising amount of the time. Yes, he takes huge risks, but that is what is required to push the envelope for any serious pursuit.

I couldn't afford to take this ride, and I'm not sure it would be within my tolerance for risk anyway. What SpaceX has done and is doing is truly amazing, and the fact is Elon Musk is pushing boundaries like this in a wide range of industries.
Gunkie

Trad climber
Valles Marineris
Mar 1, 2017 - 12:52pm PT
Tami says...
Yuuuck. Rich people doing rich people things.

F u c k o f f


Do you hate all rich people or just certain rich people?
fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Mar 1, 2017 - 01:00pm PT
The scary thing is ~50 million isn't a crazy amount money to a LOT of people on Earth.

There's a couple thousand billionaires now I believe.

The gap widens... and widens... and....
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Mar 1, 2017 - 01:05pm PT
Maybe he can solve his companies debt problem by crewing the first round the moon shot with the creditors.

Just a thought.

Actually I can get past my disdain for his sucking off the public teat by huge respect for the frontiers he's pushing.
Brokedownclimber

Trad climber
Douglas, WY
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 1, 2017 - 02:01pm PT
I have say that *We* didn't pay for it as taxpayers underwriting the mission. The only $$$ SpaceX received from the *Public Teat* was through a contract granted to them for services ALREADY RENDERED! The ISS Resupply missions is what they are getting from NASA.
Ksolem

Trad climber
Monrovia, California
Mar 1, 2017 - 02:09pm PT
a single engine failure occurred once before and the spacecraft still was able to achieve orbit through extended burn time.

I certainly hope that should one fail you are right. Again, a layman here, but doesn't the precision required to achieve that perfect lunar orbit which will then send them exactly to their re-entry window a bit trickier than achieving earth orbit?

Would they be able to compensate for a failure of one of the outside rocket engines, far out left or right?

I'm playing devil's advocate. Hopefully everything will go according to plan.
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