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Contractor
Boulder climber
CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 28, 2017 - 08:54pm PT
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Sorry-I did ruin it with political hyperbole- We've had so many great experiences as a family, by way of public venues and I worry about their future.
I've never really had a desire to take my kids to Disneyland or any other contrived, corporate experience mill.
The very special and hidden places that give us these experiences, like secret boulder problems, remote camp sites, or deep pools on a creek can be shared over and over with your friends and family. How many melinea have some of these places been profoundly affecting people? I take great joy to see my sons and their friends retrace my footsteps to a special place. Will their children follow in our footsteps someday? Will that place still be there? How can you quantify their value?
I'll take a deep wiff of a new pair of shoes and covet them for a few moments, yet the newness soon wears off- I'll revisit photos of those special adventures and the memories they conjure over and over- that never gets old.
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Dingus McGee
Social climber
Where Safety trumps Leaving No Trace
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I'll take the dog on a hike. Whose dog? Will the duo's trip be an experience or just maintenance of a possession?
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Bad Climber
Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
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Hey, I get yer point, but this:
whether we stayed in a tent, or in a hotel.
roughly the same price,
What kind of flea-bag joints you stayin' in?
BAd
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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On a different note, it's nice to have some nice things. I love my mt. bike, it's like my personal Ferrari. Not that it's totally top of the line, but dang good enough that I feel the precision.
I like a nice piece of art too. Art really can set the mood in your pad.
It's hard not to get caught up in wanting new things when every ad in the universe is telling you that you're not OK as you are, that you need something.
Ever buy something that you thought was really cool, then cursed yourself when you had to somehow get rid of it? Near death experiences teach you the value of going light.
Experiences? Yes, the more the merrier. But remember, experience is what you get when you don't get what you want.
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EdBannister
Mountain climber
13,000 feet
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Norm Kingsley had a simple home in a beautiful community.
The man had 200 first ascents, not routes mind you, first ascents.
He also drove an old honda, so did his wife..
"Norman, what's with the old cars?"
"I would rather buy airline tickets."
and then there was my Dad...
"No man on his death bed, ever said, "I wish I had spent more time at the office. ""
edit: bad, i never thought of a weekend trip as hinging on the hotel, but my bad, i usually had Marriott points.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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I have done these trips in A honda Civic and a tent but way better in a van and either way you need the climbing gear and food
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ecdh
climber
the east
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Experience? Possessions? As long as you distinguish between the two its going to cause problems.
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the albatross
Gym climber
Flagstaff
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I'm in the process of a fairly radical shift in my lifestyle. It's a daunting,yet very rewarding task to sift through a bunch of "stuff". Some going to the dumpster (why on earth did I keep this), some on Craigslist, some to goodwill and other charity.
Still have a fair amount of climbing gear, mining tools, hunting and fishing equipment and other useful tools (quad, trailer, boat,etc). For me it is a question of balance, but prefer experiences over possessions.
Our public lands are in great risk with the current government who wants to give much of our public lands to the states, whom presumably would sell these off to the highest bidder. People who enjoy rock climbing, hiking, fishing,hunting, etc on public land should be gravely concerned if they want to continue these activities.
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Contractor
Boulder climber
CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 4, 2017 - 06:48pm PT
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Experience? Possessions? As long as you distinguish between the two its going to cause problems.
My home maintenance is certainly suffering due to distinguishing Experience as my priority.
So yes, distinguishing can be problematic.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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From far away, Contractor, it sounds like you need to have a different kind of experience, one that involves maintaining your house.
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F
climber
away from the ground
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August West
Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
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Our public parks have never looked better...
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Yep...on my way home from Patagonia where some possessions like climbing gear and a pack raft helped serve up some interesting experiences.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Especially in regards to sex.
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rbord
Boulder climber
atlanta
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What I relish most of all is the experience of knowing the right answer to whether experiences or possessions are more valuable :-)
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Lollie
Social climber
I'm Lolli.
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I looked at this vid a moment ago, and I realised that you're so many who wants something else than where you're headed, the majority actually, but you don't use your powers. Access to public lands, the right to roam, the beauty of the wild, clean water and the concept that the land belongs to the people, it could be all become truth that day when the unengaged decide to put in a vote in for their values.
The vid is from last year, and worth repeating. I'm not sure if we do come to the same conclusion, though. But I find it encouraging. Maybe we are living on the same planet after all. [Click to View YouTube Video]
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slabbo
Trad climber
colo south
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Sometimes the possession "remembers" the experience...that scar on my hand ? Horn's Mother in Veed
The old A5 hammer- a memorable drilling stance
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Adventurer
Mountain climber
Virginia
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A big +1 on DMT's post.
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