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Mungeclimber

Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
Topic Author's Original Post - Feb 24, 2017 - 01:40pm PT
If you recall, mtnyoung had done 800 climbs in 'perfect' style in 2010(lead without falls or hangs, or TR'd a listed TR problem with no falls or hangs).

It's highly likely that he'll end up doing his 1000th climb at Pinnacles (in perfect style) very VERY soon.

Is this normal?

Shouldn't he be wrapped up in the funny white jacket with the long sleeves?

At PINNACLES??!!

At this point its easier to recall which climbs he hasn't lead in perfect style.



What's the most you've done at a given area?

looks easy from here

climber
Ben Lomond, CA
Feb 24, 2017 - 02:14pm PT
Ha! I have't even done 1000 routes in my life. Though Pinns is probably also at the top of my list, at 25 or so. And I'm also adding another one there soon. ;)
DrBen

Trad climber
Feb 24, 2017 - 02:17pm PT


That's a lot of routes! Most areas don't even have 1000 routes.
David Knopp

Trad climber
CA
Feb 24, 2017 - 02:19pm PT
mr. young is a force of nature-he inspires! Pinnacles is a special treasure, my favorite place to climb (Or not climb, just hang out and smoke a bowl at the base of a route with a rusty bolt 40 ft up). Thanks for showing us some special places!
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Feb 24, 2017 - 03:39pm PT
Routes?
Or ascents?
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 24, 2017 - 03:50pm PT
lead without falls or hangs, or TR'd a listed TR problem with no falls or hangs

which leads also include First Ascents, not just established climbs in the guidebook.
Clint Cummins

Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
Feb 24, 2017 - 03:51pm PT
1000 different climbs.
Repeats of the same climb don't count for this total.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Feb 24, 2017 - 03:51pm PT
How many areas Do have a thousand routes?
Yosemite, Josh, red rocks? "the desert"... Seems like you have to go to geographic regions pretty quick.
Clint Cummins

Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
Feb 24, 2017 - 03:52pm PT
Yosemite Valley has over 2300 routes.
hellroaring

Trad climber
San Francisco
Feb 24, 2017 - 03:56pm PT
+ + ! Impressive & motivated. Pinns is special Beautiful, easy to find quiet & solitude (without having to try), adventurous, lots of history. Some shun, scoff, or are indifferent to the place, but you take what you can get & it beats living in Kansas and driving 200 miles to dink around on some dirt cliff. Love the place...D Knopp when we going back?
Climberdude

Trad climber
Clovis, CA
Feb 24, 2017 - 03:56pm PT
Even more impressive when you consider there are currently 1104 publically known climbs at the Pinnacles.
clode

Trad climber
portland, or
Feb 24, 2017 - 03:56pm PT
Smith Rocks, done 'em all. Took some time though (1970 - 2004). I spread out my adventures beyond Smith during this timeframe (Tetons, Leavenworth, Tahquitz, Yosemite Valley & Tuolumne, Cascades, Wallowas).
Curt

climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
Feb 24, 2017 - 04:20pm PT
Well over 1,000 at Joshua Tree. I'm on Todd's "locals" list.

Curt
Studly

Trad climber
WA
Feb 24, 2017 - 05:44pm PT
I've done one route 1000 times, does that count?
Clode, have you done Santiam Ledges highway at Smith?
mucci

Trad climber
The pitch of Bagalaar above you
Feb 24, 2017 - 06:11pm PT
that is a fine achievement Brad!

Wish I could be with you and the gang on that day, I will be there is spirit and mud.

Cheers

Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Feb 24, 2017 - 06:26pm PT
1000 is a pretty big number, but as Heraclitus McGee tells us, "you can never climb the same route twice." By that standard, there a lot of takers.

But a thousand discrete ascents of a thousand discrete routes in a single area?

Besides the cult of route baggers in Josh, who keep track of, and document, this fetish, (and that's just a handful of people, in the greater scheme of things) can there be very many people who have accumulated, and kept track of this, in very many places?

Werner has climbed more in Yosemite than pretty much anyone. Werner, do you think you've done that many individual, routes? Could be. Has anyone else? Again, could be.

It would be an interesting factoid. There are a lot of people who have climbed an amazing amount of mileage on rock, but I think the parameters of this niche, are going to select for a very few number of climbers.

It will be fascinating to see.

And clearly, Rob, No, this isnt't "normal"!😎
Russ Walling

Social climber
from Poofters Froth, Wyoming
Feb 24, 2017 - 08:28pm PT
I've done some 38460 pitches in Josh... but that is spread over something like 27 routes. You know... the good ones. I'll never make the real "1000" club
WBraun

climber
Feb 24, 2017 - 08:41pm PT
Werner, do you think you've done that many individual, routes?


Keeping some kind of score never made any sense to me ......
Kalimon

Social climber
Ridgway, CO
Feb 24, 2017 - 09:29pm PT
Define "route" . . . the word covers a lot of ground and is subject to arbitrary parameters.

I might reach 1000 cumulative ascents of different routes, but not in one area and only if ice climbs and peaks are included.
Craig Fry

Trad climber
So Cal.
Feb 25, 2017 - 08:05am PT
A lot of us Josh Climbers did over 1,000 routes there.

You just check them off in the guide book, and have a running total.
Kind of like a Bird Life List, but for each area.
In Idyllwild, the goal was check off Every route in the Guide.

The Mayor of Josh, Todd Gordon had a thread after he did his one thousandth First Ascent! Now that's something.

I think I may have done Mike's Books a thousand times, but that would only count as ONE of your total routes.

The best way to reach a thousand is to Free Solo everything 5.8 (pick your limit) and lower, you'll get great experience groveling up some nice choss fests.
Curt

climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
Feb 25, 2017 - 08:09am PT
I'll never make the real "1000" club

Geez, it wouldn't be that hard for you at all. I'll admit that not all my JT routes are 5-star, but there are plenty of routes to do 1,000 and not do too much crap.

Curt
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Feb 25, 2017 - 08:19am PT
Travel folks travel.....spread the joy, it's a big world out there.
StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Feb 25, 2017 - 08:22am PT
What Werner said. But that's just me. Other people enjoy documenting and keeping track. To each his own.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Feb 25, 2017 - 08:23am PT
Bingo!
What Donini said!

Lists are good as long as they are motivation to adventure. Once they devolve into ego stroking their value diminishes. Ive made and kept lists, I like them for recalling positive adventures but also sort of avoided them, when they start to become too important in and of themselves..

Right now I see this in collecting towers. I've made lists of potential adventures, classics and new routes. I don't want to miss anything I could regret, but I don't want to fall into collecting ticks for there own sake.

I want to keep accruing excellent experiences and do new things, but I want each one to count on its own, more than I want to build a list for its own sake.

I guess a high number list is good, as long as it's secondary to the adventures themselves.
AP

Trad climber
Calgary
Feb 25, 2017 - 10:02am PT
While many areas may have 100 or a few hundred routes that are really worth doing are there any that have 1000 worthwhile routes?
Jim is right once again, people got to travel more.
BruceHildenbrand

Social climber
Mountain View/Boulder
Feb 25, 2017 - 10:27am PT
As someone who has put up his share of unworthy routes at the Pinnacles, what impresses me most about Brad's quest is all the driving involved. When Clint and I go down there to rebolt it's a 4hr RT. For Brad it's more like 3-3.5 hours making it a 6-7hr RT. Whoa! That's dedication. Of course, the prize is runout climbing on loose rock so he's got that going for him, which is nice.
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 25, 2017 - 08:06pm PT
Some nice posts in here.


The deed is done, and then he went and lead a couple more.


Pics forthcoming...
Mei

Trad climber
mxi2000.net
Feb 26, 2017 - 07:38am PT
It's a thread started to celebrate a friend's achievement.

When some replies join the celebration and some try to answer OP the question (#routes in a given area), other replies turn this into yet another "what I would rather do" or "what you could do different with your life" discussion. It could well be the first thought that came to your mind, which you couldn't control, but now you typed it up and put it on the public display; that, in my humble opinion, shows a lack of maturity. Remember, not everything is about I, I, I.

For people not familiar with Brad, he has a very successful career (not climbing!); published some world's possibly most thoroughly researched climbing guidebooks ; raised two wonderful young daughters; has a loving, supportive, AND participating wife; and has probably more actual learned knowledge -- amount of reading -- than anyone on this board on some subjects such as war affairs and current politics. On top of all that, he kept a record of every climb he did, and that number at Pinnacles happened to reach 1000, which many friends find worthy of celebration. While it's not everybody's cup of tea, I hear that 28 friends joined him on his 1000th route! It was a gorgeous day at Pinnacles. It's all for good fun, so let's reserve the unnecessary judgement and just share the joy of the moment.

Congratulations, Brad!!!

Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Feb 26, 2017 - 07:49am PT
Now That would be a cool thread! congrats Brad!
looks easy from here

climber
Ben Lomond, CA
Feb 26, 2017 - 08:43am PT
Well put, Mei.

Being passionate about becoming intimate with one area is hardly less valuable than wanting to get a taste of many areas. Either choice is a matter of personal preference.

And this was hardly an ego stroke by Brad. You'll notice he didn't start this thread. I was there yesterday, and it was great fun with lots friends. To me Brad seemed much more excited about the outpouring of support he received and spending time with his friends than the actual number. I heard him say "I still can't believe how many people came" a lot more than I heard him say anything about what number route it was. After he completed the route he stayed at the top in the wind and cold and belayed up nearly everyone who followed, hardly the place to stay for proper self-congratulations when 95% of the attendees are 70 feet below you.

That's not to say Brad doesn't like to talk about himself... :p
clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
Feb 26, 2017 - 09:35am PT

The amount of good and sh#t routes he has climbed at Pinnacles is certainly impressive. Also that he is still in one relatively whole piece.


john bald

climber
Feb 26, 2017 - 09:59am PT
My hat's off to everyone who has achieved so much climbing.



Though, along my path, it's not all about the numbers.
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 26, 2017 - 10:21am PT
Brad and his daughter finishing up "A Grand Adventure" 5.5 * FA [Brad, and 29 people having a great day out climbing.]

mtnyoung

Trad climber
Twain Harte, California
Feb 26, 2017 - 01:37pm PT
…you may be right I may be crazy - but it just may be a lunatic you're looking for….


Hey, thanks Rob for the thread. What a great day and what a great crew of Mud fanatics (and newbies).

Mungeclimber

Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 26, 2017 - 04:03pm PT
of course! Well done!

Tying off knobs...

Mungeclimber

Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 26, 2017 - 04:04pm PT
Bad Climber

Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
Feb 26, 2017 - 08:28pm PT
Are there 1,000 different climbs @ Pinnacles? I haven't been there in years--like 20+--but I did make a few trips back when I lived in the Bay Area. A fun and wild place.

BAd
BruceHildenbrand

Social climber
Mountain View/Boulder
Feb 26, 2017 - 08:32pm PT
Yes. There are 1000+ different routes at the Pinnacles. You probably only want to do about 100 of them if you want to have a long climbing career. If the other 900 don't kill you outright when you pull off a loose hold and ground out, just thinking about that possibly will most likely cause a fatal heart attack:-)
Kalimon

Social climber
Ridgway, CO
Feb 26, 2017 - 08:36pm PT
Mud fanatics

I thought it was breccia and volcanic tuff?
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 26, 2017 - 08:40pm PT
There are people that have done 1000 routes period?
And how many hours did they spend driving to them?
mtnyoung

Trad climber
Twain Harte, California
Feb 26, 2017 - 08:42pm PT

I thought it was breccia and volcanic tuff?

It is. Definitely volcanic.

But we jokingly (and lovingly) call it "mud." Some of us who climb it a lot call ourselves the "Masters of Mud."
Kalimon

Social climber
Ridgway, CO
Feb 26, 2017 - 08:47pm PT
Fisher Towers are mud . . . Pinnacles rock is way more solid.
mtnyoung

Trad climber
Twain Harte, California
Feb 26, 2017 - 09:00pm PT

Fisher Towers are mud . . . Pinnacles rock is way more solid.

From what I've seen, both comments are definitely true.

We still love our "mud" at Pinnacles though ;)
mtnyoung

Trad climber
Twain Harte, California
Feb 26, 2017 - 09:03pm PT
And by the way, thanks for some very, very nice comments here in the last two days.

One of the great things about climbing is that almost anyone can find their fun.

I've got friends who go to an area and do some of the same 20 routes every time. Others who do big walls in hours and some who dream of doing one big wall in their lifetime. Some of my friends climb all over the world and others don't have that desire or simply can't travel like that. I climb with partners who never note down what they've done (and sometimes realize halfway up a climb that they've done it before).

Me? I climb for adventure, for fun and to be with friends.

As part of that I love keeping lists and totals; I find that to be a lot of fun. I don't hold it against those that don't though - to each their own.

Kalimon

Social climber
Ridgway, CO
Feb 26, 2017 - 09:12pm PT
We still love our "mud" at Pinnacles though ;)

I did my first technical rock climbing at the Pinnacles in 1977 and to this day have never thought of it as mud!

Surely there are not 1000+ established routes there . . . maybe 500 max.
pb

Sport climber
Sonora Ca
Feb 26, 2017 - 09:38pm PT
Was it your birthday? Here's mud in your eye.
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 26, 2017 - 09:54pm PT
LOL

IAD? Now that would be something!

mtnyoung

Trad climber
Twain Harte, California
Feb 26, 2017 - 10:26pm PT

Surely there are not 1000+ established routes there . . . maybe 500 max.

The hosts let me keep a "sticky" thread on the Pinnacles web forum. The forum is called "Mudn'Crud" - there's that damn mud thing again ;) ;) The thread lists newly established and newly found (never reported) climbs since the 2007 guidebook. Here's the introductory paragraph to that thread:


I have what I consider a "complete" list of new and newly found routes since the book came out. But I think it's only fair to keep parts of the list non-public. For example, at one point Munge and Uber posted on this site about a route they established (after the book came out). I knew/know where the route is because I was there with Uber when he "discovered" the potential line. But, their post doesn't say where the climb is, AND I'm pretty sure they intend more lines there. So I'm not sure it's fair to them to post what's on my list yet. And Mr Mud's route is noted on this site too, but not with a lot of detail. I note all this because I would like to keep a "current" list, and I'd appreciate hearing from people about new routes. But, I will keep such information private if so requested, for as long as requested. I'll start with what I have that is for sure public. I've also got a format that may help with a new book in the future, designed to list all known information so the route can be "tracked down" at some point, if needed. Other "posters" of new routes might find this format helpful too.

There are 211 new and found routes listed as of February 17, 2017 (when added to the 893 routes listed in the 2007 guidebook, this makes 1,104 routes publicly known to exist at Pinnacles).

While we were doing this route "A Grand Adventure" on Friday and Saturday, we found another previously unreported route and made three other first ascents. So that adds five more to the list.

BTW, all five of the routes - including the found route - are fairly easy; we wanted them easy so that anyone out there that day could follow and be part of the first ascent team (they also vary in length from 30 to 95 feet).

Here's a link to the full Mudn'Crud new routes list:

http://www.mudncrud.com/forums/index.php?topic=886.0




mtnyoung

Trad climber
Twain Harte, California
Feb 26, 2017 - 10:35pm PT
Keep in mind too that at Pinnacles two class twos, maybe a dozen class threes, and perhaps 30 class fours are still listed as routes in the guidebook. My list includes some class fours (and maybe one or so class threes?).

This is somewhat unusual in the modern age and follows from the character of the the rock (almost all or maybe even all of these "sub-fifth class" routes reach a distinct summit), and from the long "mountaineering" type history of climbing there (starting in 1933). Guidebooks since then have listed these types of routes.

Mungeclimber

Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 26, 2017 - 10:46pm PT
Those are just scrambles!!! ;)
pb

Sport climber
Sonora Ca
Feb 27, 2017 - 07:58am PT
A buddy was telling me about looking down from the 2nd pitch of some route and seeing his dog on the way up.
"What did you do?"
"Downrated it."
martygarrison

Trad climber
Washington DC
Feb 27, 2017 - 08:46am PT
Bet I climbed Leanie Meanie a 1000 times, even once with Brad!
eeyonkee

Trad climber
Golden, CO
Feb 27, 2017 - 10:24am PT
I'm still working on a thousand deep knee bends.
looking sketchy there...

Social climber
Lassitude 33
Feb 27, 2017 - 10:38am PT
Mtnyoung:
One of the great things about climbing is that almost anyone can find their fun.

So true. Climbing that many routes at the Pinnacles is more than impressive (or obsessive), it is an adventure.
Craig Fry

Trad climber
So Cal.
Feb 27, 2017 - 11:22am PT
Congratulations Brad
Well Done!

BUT!!!
The Thread Title is "Have you done 1000 routes at an area?"

Then asks if you did it at The Pinnacles as a sort of an after thought.

A thousand routes at an area..
That is a good topic to discuss, and we should discuss it here since it is the title of the thread,
First of all, there aren't even that many areas you can do a 1000 routes, so that's the first thing

and Please Carry on
clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
Feb 27, 2017 - 11:26am PT
looking sketchy there...

Social climber
Lassitude 33

Feb 27, 2017 - 10:38am PT
Mtnyoung:
One of the great things about climbing is that almost anyone can find their fun.

So true. Climbing that many routes at the Pinnacles is more than impressive (or obsessive), it is an adventure.

Years before I meant Brad, I had heard rumor of some guy trying to climb every route in the then Monument. Knowing how bad many of these were, I had reason to doubt the sanity of this endeavor and the best one word description pf this may be Monumental.

mon·u·men·tal
ˌmänyəˈmen(t)l/
adjective
great in importance, extent, or size.
"it's been a monumental effort"
synonyms: huge, great, enormous, gigantic, massive, colossal, mammoth, immense, tremendous, mighty, stupendous
"a monumental task"
terrible, dreadful, awful, colossal, staggering, huge, enormous, unforgivable, egregious
"a monumental error in judgment"
impressive, striking, outstanding, remarkable, magnificent, majestic, stupendous, ambitious, large-scale, grand, awe-inspiring, important, significant, distinguished, memorable, immortal

Or at least somewhere between Mental and Monumental.

men·tal
ˈmen(t)l/
adjective
1.
relating to the mind.
"mental faculties"
synonyms: intellectual, cerebral, brain, rational, cognitive
"mental faculties"
2.
relating to disorders of the mind.
"a mental hospital"
synonyms: psychiatric, psychological, psychogenic
"a mental disorder"

;) He is a strategist and historian.
I believe he also has numbered some of his repertoire of jokes.



Certainly along with and beyond the climbing, there can be few finer examples of a person.

Jon C
Matt's

climber
Feb 27, 2017 - 12:11pm PT
To me, the most amazing thing about doing 1000 routes at the Pinnacles is not dying in the process. I've done ~75 routes there, and have already almost died once. The rock quality there poses some serious objective hazards.

best,
matt
mtnyoung

Trad climber
Twain Harte, California
Feb 27, 2017 - 12:31pm PT

To me, the most amazing thing about doing 1000 routes at the Pinnacles is not dying in the process. I've done ~75 routes there, and have already almost died once. The rock quality there poses some serious objective hazards.

Matt's, the post above confirms that you are one smart person (and thank you for the sideways compliment too).

Here's part of a post I made a few years ago on Mudn'Crud about what I thought were the 25 scariest leads at Pinnacles (it's modified a little from that post to omit names on this much-larger circulation forum):

TOP FOUR SCARIEST LEADS AT PINNACLES (that I have done; not in any intentional order):

- 520.5. Seldom Seen Pinnacle - West Face 5.8 X (Two pitches protected by one bolt total; take a rope though, it'll make you feel like you're not free soloing. Besides, with a rope, if the second pitch leader falls, he might take the belayer with him. Did this with David.)

- 854. Herchel Berchel 5.11a R (I had to be rescued from the third pitch of this the first time I tried it - thanks again Dennis. Did that first try with Mungeclimber. Then did it with Dennis - he led the crux pitch though. So I went back and led that pitch with Jennifer. I've led all three pitches.)

- 0.5 Flake Don't Break 5.9+ (Will any of your gear hold a fall? Will any of your holds stay on the rock? Did this with Gavin.)

- 413. Needful 5.8 R (We joke about "kitty litter." On this one it's true. Total crap rock and total crap gear. For most of a rope length. I estimate that, while leading this, I knocked off a cumulative total of at least 100 pounds of rock. Did this with Mungeclimber.)

THE NEXT FOUR SCARIEST LEADS AT PINNACLES (that I have done; not in any intentional order):

- 828. Desperado Chute Out - Denny Colliver Direct 5.9 R (Start on an easier route, at a one bolt belay 200 feet up. But that one bolt is backed up by gear scattered between knobs at your feet. And then it's only one rope length to the top; I used a 75 meter rope and still had to brace myself among lodestones for the belay. With no anchor. Oh, and bonus, there's a bolt protecting that 75 meters of climbing. And yes, that's meters, not feet. Did this with Jeff.)

- 822. Icarus 5.9 R A3 (It's hard to define why this one is scary - and yet it scared me a lot. The possible 40 to 50 foot lob off the 5.9 would be all air, and that's safe. The belay at the top of the second pitch is interesting. And the aid was intricate and hard. Did this with Kevin.)

- 816. Pigeon Crack 5.6 X (it's really 5.8 X) (It took me three leads of this before I figured out that the climb has never gone further. That's a lot of kitty litter packed into 55 feet. Did this with David and then Jim and then Kevin.)

- 792. The Arch - Up the Center 5.8 A3 (In a way this one is odd to be scared on/of. A leader is never more than 40 feet off a usually-sandy/soft creek bed. And yet, with a horrible, pivoting slamming-into-the-vertical-wall potential, and with 10 pitons driven straight up into a Pinnacles roof crack - six of those being knifeblades - I was exhausted, bathed in sweat and completely, utterly spent physically and mentally after this one. I did it with John.)

Man I love Pinnacles....

Mungeclimber

Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 27, 2017 - 01:17pm PT
I seem to recall needful have exactly 1 semi decent placement up high (small alien in a pocket), and exactly 1 small section about 4 to 5 feet of semi decent rock.

The rest was totally horseshit in a rope length.
Matt's

climber
Feb 27, 2017 - 01:29pm PT
I would add-- the thought of leading 1000 pinnacles pitches is not the scariest part-- it's having to belay 1000 pinnacles pitches, never knowing when death by cantaloupe is going to occur...
dee ee

Mountain climber
Of THIS World (Planet Earth)
Feb 27, 2017 - 03:26pm PT
2200+ at Josh. Just hit over 100 at Fairview.

I've been keeping track in a climbing journal since 1968. I like facts (real facts not "alternative facts") and I love data.

However, it's never been about "the numbers," only the adventure.

It's cool because peeps are always asking questions about sh#t we did 30-40 years ago and I can say "I don't remember but I will check the records."

and...there ain't nothin' wrong with that!



But to climb over 1000 at Pinnacles? That is effing crazy and quite an accomplishment!

duffer

Trad climber
Sonora, CA
Feb 27, 2017 - 07:43pm PT
Brad, good to see that I was with you on a couple of the scariest. No wonder I don't go there often. Fun this past weekend though.
Kalimon

Social climber
Ridgway, CO
Feb 27, 2017 - 08:39pm PT
There are 211 new and found routes listed as of February 17, 2017 (when added to the 893 routes listed in the 2007 guidebook, this makes 1,104 routes publicly known to exist at Pinnacles).

My bad . . . way to get out there and do shit!
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Feb 27, 2017 - 08:42pm PT
"I've done 1,000 routes in my head, in perfect style."
WBraun
Bad Climber

Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
Feb 28, 2017 - 06:52am PT
Considering all the crappy rock and dangerous leads, this accomplishment seems to rank up there with all 8,000'ers. I'm willing to bet fewer people accomplish it. Ugh. Hats off!

BAd
phylp

Trad climber
Upland, CA
Feb 28, 2017 - 12:08pm PT
Fun thread!
Congrats to MTNyoung for an amazing track record.

I think the most, distinct routes I have done in one relatively small concentrated area is 193 at the Owen's River Gorge. I counted out of curiosity a while ago. And only a handful were mildly scary in that, gee it wouldn't be good to fall here, kind of way. The couple I thought were too scary, I backed off of. so of course they didn't get counted!

The scary factor makes your Pinnacles record that much more impressive!
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 28, 2017 - 02:07pm PT
I just got a report of an anonymous climber that is pushing a 1200 routes at an area where they have 2000 climbs. That's a damn solid push as well.

And I bet they could reach the JT locals club too, but for all the other great areas in the country they want to climb. nice work


Phylp, seems like a solid rate of completion!





One thing thinking about numbers and stats does is make you realize how many climbs are really out there. Not all are good, true. But we sure do have it pretty good in the U.S. all in all because of how many routes there are.
David Knopp

Trad climber
CA
Mar 22, 2017 - 09:21am PT
Just did a new route with Brad-he taught us how to place our first bolt! I think it was route 1011 for him...
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 22, 2017 - 01:51pm PT
lol, another climber lost to the choss FA fever.

hang tough, you can get over it! Take 2 weekends in Yosemite and call us in the morning.
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