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drF
Trad climber
usa
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Feb 24, 2017 - 03:02pm PT
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The announcement coincide with the justice department rolling back Obamas move have the feds stop using private prisons. Private trump-branded prisons filled with dopers with taxpayers footing the bill. They'll be the very, very best prisons - they'll be so safe and good you won't want to leave them and the homeless will be clamoring to get in.
As always...angry and clueless. Seek THE truth Joe...not YOUR angry biased truth
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Kalimon
Social climber
Ridgway, CO
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Feb 24, 2017 - 09:08pm PT
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Good people overdose on opioids instead.
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drF
Trad climber
usa
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Feb 24, 2017 - 09:25pm PT
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^^^^^^
What does this have to do with the private/public prison system?
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Mad69Dog
Ice climber
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Feb 25, 2017 - 05:48am PT
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Feb 25, 2017 - 07:39am PT
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John Lennon, dude.
Uncle Sam.
Did he really do it?
The author describes the night Dylan met the Beatles for the first time in 1964. 'Bob tried to roll a joint and it fell to pieces in his hands,' Maymudes wrote, "scattering pot over a bowl of fruit sitting on the table'
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Feb 25, 2017 - 09:07am PT
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I know ~ Doc, !
THREAD DRIFT
for a Tidbit-O-Trivia:
The person with Dylan in the photo above is the Artist Edward Chavez...
The Chavez's were close family friends to my parents and we use to stay in their house (Woodstock NY) when we were visiting...
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I'll be good by 3
Locker!?
. That you and I traveled in the same sphere ever?
Wow!
Do you know of the "Short Stranger" ?
Or Jason's & Jordan's mum?
Balsamo !
mud'der fvcker!
Viva le big pink
Mikey Davoes dove in & broke his neck? ( thought it Karmic! - Still jump'd in )
Scary guy, (I'll remember his name too)he was your age
We was just kidzz
Perv? /wheeze wers all jello/
Got busted sent up
For eat in' teen pie?
David ??? I'm kinda glad I don't remember(
( musta been a fallen Jew?)NO
DEL'ISIO,!
OMG. . . . Frer-kriis-sake berg Judus-kiss
At no point since I brk my phookin Neck has it been a recreation !
The hi-test is way to strong
And the industrial harder & harder to get
If they ever fund or find a decodeder ring I'll be in like Flynn, till that time
I'll, take a brownie and a Micky-phinn!
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pud
climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
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Feb 25, 2017 - 09:32am PT
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The good/bad people argument is ludicrous.
Weed was more about ritual than mind altering in the 70's.
It was a nice way to connect to others.
When it becomes a lifestyle I think it loses this ability.
While I don't condemn the use of Marijuana and think it should be legalized, I see more harm than good when used as recreation.
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tuolumne_tradster
Trad climber
Leading Edge of North American Plate
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Feb 25, 2017 - 10:15am PT
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Comparative risk assessment of alcohol, tobacco, cannabis and other illicit drugs using the margin of exposure approach
Sci Rep. 2015; 5: 8126.
Published online 2015 Jan 30. doi: 10.1038/srep08126
Abstract
A comparative risk assessment of drugs including alcohol and tobacco using the margin of exposure (MOE) approach was conducted. The MOE is defined as ratio between toxicological threshold (benchmark dose) and estimated human intake. Median lethal dose values from animal experiments were used to derive the benchmark dose. The human intake was calculated for individual scenarios and population-based scenarios. The MOE was calculated using probabilistic Monte Carlo simulations. The benchmark dose values ranged from 2 mg/kg bodyweight for heroin to 531 mg/kg bodyweight for alcohol (ethanol). For individual exposure the four substances alcohol, nicotine, cocaine and heroin fall into the “high risk” category with MOE < 10, the rest of the compounds except THC fall into the “risk” category with MOE < 100. On a population scale, only alcohol would fall into the “high risk” category, and cigarette smoking would fall into the “risk” category, while all other agents (opiates, cocaine, amphetamine-type stimulants, ecstasy, and benzodiazepines) had MOEs > 100, and cannabis had a MOE > 10,000. The toxicological MOE approach validates epidemiological and social science-based drug ranking approaches especially in regard to the positions of alcohol and tobacco (high risk) and cannabis (low risk).
Lachenmeier, Dirk W. 1,2*; Rehm, Jürgen 1,3-7
1Epidemiological Research Unit, Technische Universität Dresden, Klinische Psychologie & Psychotherapie, Dresden, Germany, 2Chemisches und Veterinäruntersuchungsamt (CVUA) Karlsruhe, Germany, 3Social and Epidemiological Research (SER) Department, Centre for Addiction and Mental Health (CAMH), Toronto, Canada, 4Institute of Medical Sciences, University of Toronto (UofT), Toronto, Canada, 5Dalla Lana School of Public Health, UofT, Toronto, Canada, 6Dept. of Psychiatry, Faculty of Medicine, UofT, Toronto, Canada, 7PAHO/WHO Collaborating Centre for Mental Health & Addiction, Toronto, Canada
* Correspondence and requests for materials should be addressed to
D.W.L. (Lachenmeier@web.de)
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tuolumne_tradster
Trad climber
Leading Edge of North American Plate
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Feb 25, 2017 - 10:46am PT
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Diazepam = Valium
In the context of the European research project “Addiction and Lifestyles in Contemporary Europe – Reframing Addictions Project”, the aim of this research was to provide a comparative risk assessment of drugs using a novel risk assessment methodology, namely the “Margin of Exposure” (MOE) method. The Margin of Exposure (MOE) is a novel approach to compare the health risk of different compounds and to prioritize risk management actions. The MOE is defined as the ratio between the point on the dose response curve, which characterizes adverse effects in epidemiological or animal studies (the so-called benchmark dose (BMD)), and the estimated human intake of the same compound. Clearly, the lower the MOE, the larger the risk for humans. The BMD approach was first suggested by Crump, and was later refined by the US EPA for quantitative risk assessment. In Europe, the MOE was introduced in 2005 as the preferred method for risk assessment of carcinogenic and genotoxic compounds.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Feb 25, 2017 - 10:53am PT
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That's Victor Maymudes in the photo back a ways.
The famous chess player who beat both Bob Dylan and Bobby Fischer
Mr. Chavez did take the photo though.
Mikhail Tal did smoke, but like Fischer he's dead, whilst Maymudes and Dylan live on.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bf/Mikhail_Tal_1982.jpg
So from our scientific sampling, 1/3 (33%) of smoking chess players have died, whilst all of the non-smokers have died.
QED
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Feb 25, 2017 - 10:59am PT
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I guess I'm just a bad man then.
It's weird though, because I feel like I live my life according to a strong moral code.
It might also be noted that making blanket statements is indicative of lower than average intelligence.
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pud
climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
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Feb 25, 2017 - 12:37pm PT
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Locker,
I typically avoid engaging you for many reasons however, I don't mind throwing this out there.
Love to see your list of reasons why you think it's harmful...
*It stunts emotional growth when used daily
*It is a depressant
*It is burning vegetable matter introduced to your lungs
* It artificially changes brain chemistry (one may argue it is a natural substance however, introducing THC into your bloodstream is unnatural.)
*It's lazy
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Feb 25, 2017 - 12:49pm PT
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Pud...It also stunts vertical growth...I heard locker is a midget...? rj
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Feb 25, 2017 - 12:58pm PT
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Yeah...Don't stroke the midget...
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Feb 25, 2017 - 01:12pm PT
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pud, you forgot, or omitted, to also note that numerous studies have shown its deleterious
effect on memory.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Feb 25, 2017 - 01:23pm PT
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Actually, I don't, but I forgot to mention its pernicious capacity for self-delusion.
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tuolumne_tradster
Trad climber
Leading Edge of North American Plate
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Feb 25, 2017 - 01:24pm PT
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Pick your poison...
Alcohol vs ganja on Overdose, Crime Rates, Driving, Learning & Memory, & Pregnancy...
http://drugabuse.com/marijuana-vs-alcohol/
Some interesting findings here...
Couples' marijuana use is inversely related to their intimate partner violence over the first 9 years of marriage.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25134048?version=meter+at+5&module=meter-Links&pgtype=article&contentId=&mediaId=&referrer=&priority=true&action=click&contentCollection=meter-links-click
Research on the association between marijuana use and intimate partner violence (IPV) has generated inconsistent findings, and has been primarily based on cross-sectional data. We examined whether husbands' and wives' marijuana use predicted both husbands' and wives' IPV perpetration over the first 9 years of marriage (Wave 1, n = 634 couples). We also examined moderation by antisocial behavior, the spouse's marijuana use, and whether IPV was reported during the year before marriage. These predictive associations were calculated using a time-lagged multivariate generalized multilevel model, simultaneously estimating predictors of husband and wife IPV. In fully adjusted models, we found that more frequent marijuana use by husbands and wives predicted less frequent IPV perpetration by husbands. Husbands' marijuana use also predicted less frequent IPV perpetration by wives. Moderation analyses demonstrated that couples in which both spouses used marijuana frequently reported the least frequent IPV perpetration. There was a significant positive association between wives' marijuana use and wives' IPV perpetration, but only among wives who had already reported IPV perpetration during the year before marriage. These findings suggest there may be an overall inverse association between marijuana use and IPV perpetration in newly married couples, although use may be associated with greater risk of perpetration among women with a history of IPV perpetration.
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