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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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Apr 19, 2017 - 10:21am PT
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I have voted to legalize it, and will continue to advocate keeping it legal; I have partaken a handful of times in my life; but ultimately I think it hurts people more than it helps them.
Maybe chronic pain management is a different story... But in my experience heavy usage diminishes people's capacity to deal with adversity or manage their own emotions. People who seem cool while they are stoned can often be @ssh0les when they don't have access to the weed. Maybe they are fundamentally objectionable people and the magic weed makes them tolerable. I think it is the other way around though... the short-cuts of mental pleasure and satisfaction that marijuana can provide, while skipping the inner emotional development and not cultivating the subordination of negative impulses to facilitate positive collaboration with other people... by taking these short-cuts, habitual users lose the skills (or never develop them in the first place) to be easy-going people without the external chemical assist.
All that said, I don't think it's the government's role to decide for us where is that line of occasional help vs enabling degeneration. As a societal policy, it seems less dangerous than alcohol because it is less associated with violence. But that can be debatable if you consider not just the impact when a person is under the influence, but also how they change when they are not under the influence.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Apr 19, 2017 - 03:53pm PT
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Yeah, whatever...
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Apr 19, 2017 - 04:27pm PT
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Ok, I readily admit it's been conclusively proven one can climb straight even if it takes decades to master and is way, way suboptimal.
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skitch
Gym climber
Bend Or
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Apr 19, 2017 - 04:49pm PT
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I don't climb on it, but I smoke every night to forget who I am.
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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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Apr 19, 2017 - 05:38pm PT
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I should clarify my post a bit. I don't think everyone who smokes is an azz when they're not high. It just seems from my somewhat limited pool of experience (growing up around it with a parent, other housemates that we shared houses with at that time, and parents of friends, and college mates and people I lived with during those years, and housemates I had during a transitional period when I left my first wife...
Among these people I have known many occasional users who are cool people, a few heavy users who seem pretty cool but maybe I never saw them when they weren't high because they smoked every day religiously. But people I have known who are heavy users that I have seen when they are not high... pretty cranky, high strung, and selfish people.
I say all this not to condemn anyone, but to share another aspect of pot smoking and potential effects as it starts being a mainstream acceptable thing. It is not a cure-all and society fixer.
But everyone has their own row to hoe, and everyone can figure out for themselves how to best to go about that.
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rbord
Boulder climber
atlanta
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Apr 19, 2017 - 06:20pm PT
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I remember going to see a midnight movie 40 years ago in Providence RI. I think they were playing Harold and Maude. And I think the opening act was Reefer Madness. Everyone is smoking pot - the place is one big cloud. All college students taking a break from smoking pot in the dorms. Alll the sudden the movie stops, the lights come on, the doors open and cops bust in from every door, and some undercovers in the crowd stand up and start pointing out those evil pot smokers to the cops, who round up and arrest them all.
Well, not all ... How did I get out of that one with a clean record? And seriously, wtf??!! IMHO, ithe problem is not so much the pot smokers, as it is the people who get all bent out of shape over the pot smokers.
All the freaky people make the beauty of the world :-) And here I am, stuck being an engineer-brain.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Apr 19, 2017 - 06:54pm PT
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Freaky people are fine, as long as they're not driving my train.
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skitch
Gym climber
Bend Or
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Apr 19, 2017 - 07:28pm PT
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I awoke in the age of wires fell asleep at the dusk of man...
-Connor Oberst
-Souled Out
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Apr 19, 2017 - 08:05pm PT
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Smot poking will stunt your growth..
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drF
Trad climber
usa
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Apr 19, 2017 - 08:11pm PT
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If you smoke weed you'll end up angry...like CraigF
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WBraun
climber
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Apr 19, 2017 - 08:13pm PT
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Good people who are sick and need the medicine marijuana use it.
healthy people don't need it or use it.
If you're healthy and use it it will make your consciousness ultimately sick.
The thread title is so stoopid .....
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WBraun
climber
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Apr 19, 2017 - 09:11pm PT
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Probably some other medicine such as Prozac that Ken M prescribed thru a misdiagnosed fubar ..... :-)
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Apr 19, 2017 - 09:16pm PT
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Smoking marijuana has nothing to do with whether you are a good person, or not. Good people are determined by what they do in life.
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WBraun
climber
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Apr 19, 2017 - 09:20pm PT
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Yes ^^^^
That's why the thread title is stoopid ......
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Apr 20, 2017 - 04:41am PT
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4 / 20
Bump,
akin to wishing I had some.
Good people don't smoke pot
They eat it now.
If to inhale a flowers smoke be a make or break.
It is
Already broke.
The way it seems,
the just say No grandmas ?
They smoked dirt weed.
Now It would be different
The now is so to high test you need to take a rest.
I prefer a mild buzz. A buzz that proffers a tidy smile and lite laugh.
That I can (&some times 5 times) a day and still afford a coffee.
I'm industrial, low grade stems n seeds to feed to my boids.
I've not afforded a splief in years!
And the leaf I'd use has no longer been safe to grow for me.
I've moved out of the woods, my back yard idjut, burns everything all the time from smoke stack to wet pine, in piles . His woods!? Not mine !
Wow
It sucks not Having half a dozen girlfriends in!
know, I'm old now, and my friends in Durango are too, with kids and other pass times,
one couple has a yurt somewhere.
I'm glad to try to build the stoke, &
Pass along any advice that I can. I've been tied in and on belay since I was 4yrs old..
Not that means anything at all, just that do have
Two teenagers who also visit the forum.HCRUB
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drF
Trad climber
usa
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Apr 20, 2017 - 07:48am PT
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Probably some other medicine such as Prozac that Ken M prescribed thru a misdiagnosed fubar ..... :-)
Impossible...Ken M knows everything
He's on youtube for fu#s sake!!
L0L
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rbord
Boulder climber
atlanta
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Apr 20, 2017 - 04:54pm PT
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Good people are determined by what they do in life.
Either that, or by the ways that their brains are stimulated, or not stimulated.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/04/170410154808.him
But where's the fun in being a self-confirmation-biased self-survivor-biased self-righteous human if we can't blame other humans for their inferior morality?
Praise Jesus! But the rest of you dishonest pot smoking bad folks are going to hell :-)
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