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Brian in SLC

Social climber
Salt Lake City, UT
Feb 11, 2017 - 01:21pm PT
Yeah, Mike and friend Dan were passing out the Bear's Ears posters that they got from Jeremy Collins. Ran out in about 2 minutes while in line. There was a dropbox to download if folks wanted. Fair climber presence (along with backcountry skiers and I chatted with a hunter who had a sign about keeping public land public).

Was a neat mix of people. Young and old. Men and women. Not sure Chaffetz had many folks who voted for him there.



Brian in SLC

Social climber
Salt Lake City, UT
Feb 11, 2017 - 01:24pm PT
I've heard that. In fact, didn't SLC have a mayor who was gay, back in the 90s?

Jackie, the current mayor...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackie_Biskupski

Beat Ralph. Darn it. I liked Ralph. The debacle with the well liked police chief sealed his fate, unfortunately.

Ralph took over for Rocky.

All "liberal" mayors.

Edit to add: in fact, SLC hasn't had a Republican mayor since 1972's Jake "in space" Garn.
More Air

Trad climber
S.L.C.
Feb 11, 2017 - 09:38pm PT
Black Diamond's Peter Metcalf has been on local television pushing to move the OR show out of Utah unless the Governor drops current efforts to stop Bears Ears. Problem is, if the show moves, then the big bargaining chip that the industry has will be gone. IMO if Peter really wants to protect Utah's public lands, then it's best for the show to stay in Salt Lake City.
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Feb 12, 2017 - 09:43am PT
a national trade-show is yesterdays business model and this is a fig-leaf?

very true, right here on ST we are seeing the development of new products real time (OW cams) and the guys have customers all lined up, he does not need to go to a trade show.

Not sure how much bargaining power the outdoor industry really has with the extreme right. I view a move as payback at this point, the principle that we should not give these guys our dollars. I go out of my way not to spend money in Arizona. Gas is about all I buy in that state. Maybe I should add Utah to that list of places not to spend mooney but I have met some great people in Utah, I would miss Brianhead too much. Utah is definitely not in Arizona's class politically
Srbphoto

climber
Kennewick wa
Feb 12, 2017 - 11:29am PT
so I wonder if Patagonia will close the SLC outlet?
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Feb 12, 2017 - 11:31am PT
Jim! Re your good question,
What are the opinions of Bass Pro Shops and similar hunting and fishing focused outlets regarding Privatization of American public land ?

which GF did a good job of answering. I have thoughts along the line of his answer, that are a little more extreme.

I know that the Republican politicians in power in Idaho mostly ignore the input of traditional conservationist organizations.

In red-states like Idaho & Utah, it's time for climbers, kayakers, & backpackers to take a deep breath & firmly align ourselves with hunters, fishers, horse-folk, ATV, dirt-bike, & snowmobile riders, rockhounds, & car-campers. Anyone that enjoys our current access to public lands should now be our ally, because

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend."

A recent example of how effective hunting & fishing groups are at fighting the current attempts to grab out Federal lands, is Utah Rep. Chaffetz withdrawing his bill to sell 3.3 million acres of BLM land.

Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) withdrew legislation Thursday that would have transferred 3 million acres of land from federal to state ownership, citing objections from constituents who complained that the move would limit access to public hunting and fishing grounds.

A wide array of outdoors groups praised the move.

Aaron Kindle, Western sportsmen’s campaign manager for the National Wildlife Federation, said in a statement that his group appreciates “that Mr. Chaffetz listened” to those opposed to the bill.

“This loss would have forever robbed the American people of the amazing bounty these and all public lands provide,” Kindle said. “Another good move would be to withdraw the recently approved House rule that devalues public lands and makes them easier to dispose of.”

Katie McKalip, communications director for the Montana-based Backcountry Hunters and Anglers, said in an email that its members and others “have sent a clear message, in no uncertain terms, that Americans greatly value our nation’s public lands and waters and that we will not tolerate actions by our elected officials that diminish them.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2017/02/02/facing-backlash-utah-rep-jason-chaffetz-withdraws-bill-to-transfer-federal-land-to-the-states/?utm_term=.3d5d5c20bf93

I just joined Backcountry Hunters & Anglers & intend to join some other hunting & fishing organizations that favor keeping OUR public lands public.
stevep

Boulder climber
Salt Lake, UT
Feb 12, 2017 - 06:51pm PT
Salt Lake City is very liberal, and Salt Lake County voted for Hillary, as did Summit County, where Park City is.
However, the GOP state legislature gerrymandered Salt Lake County into pieces, breaking it up so that each part is paired with a large section of rural, conservative UT. Thus making it more likely for Republican Congressional representatives, such as Chaffetz, whose district goes from SLC down to Moab and Bears Ears.

Given the fact that Chaffetz held his town hall in the SLC suburbs, and given how important outdoor recreation is to many people here in SLC, I'm not one bit surprised that he got a lot of protesters. No need to bring in any from out of state. I'd have been there myself if I was not out of town on business.

P.S. - The UT Director of Outdoor Recreation (appointed by the Governor), is Tom Adams, a long-time SLC climber/skier/biker, and former Petzl employee. Hopefully these protests give Tom additional leverage with the Governor.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Feb 12, 2017 - 07:06pm PT
Chaffetz is yet another example of the out of touch politician / puppet who finally gets it when he's about to get run over by public opinion...vote the d#@&%e out...
Don Paul

Big Wall climber
Denver CO
Feb 12, 2017 - 08:01pm PT
Should move it up to Lander & combine with the climbing/beer drinking festival.
Splater

climber
Grey Matter
Feb 12, 2017 - 09:46pm PT
http://www.sltrib.com/news/4846626-155/rolly-chaffetzs-partisan-antics-conjure-memories
Scott McNamara

climber
Tucson, Arizona
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 16, 2017 - 01:05pm PT
These two (2) links were posted on the Alpine Club of Canada's newsletter today (02/16/2017):

http://www.climbing.com/news/outdoor-brands-boycott-outdoor-retailer-trade-show-in-protest/?mc_cid=1f4db00d0a&mc_eid=0926fdd982


https://www.outsideonline.com/2155931/outdoor-industry-pushes-back-against-utah?mc_cid=1f4db00d0a&mc_eid=0926fdd982
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Feb 16, 2017 - 01:58pm PT
I received this email from Outdoor Retailer on Feb. 14.

Our Goal is Not Just to Speak. Our Goal is to be Heard.

The last week has certainly been an interesting time as a show organizer and I am most thankful for the incredible team at Outdoor Retailer, our partner - the Outdoor Industry Association, rep associations, retailers and brands, in addition to the hundreds of emails offering support.

We respect that brands have to make decisions that reflect their values. However, in the last week, the heart-felt expressions of support for the show from exhibitors of all sizes have far outweighed those choosing not to participate. Iconic brands such as adidas Outdoor, Ibex, The Conservation Alliance, The North Face, REI and Wolverine Worldwide, among many others have not only reinforced their intent to come to SLC this summer, but also, will make their voices louder than ever before. (Please look at unity.outdoorretailer.com for specific expressions of support.)

We can all most easily agree that this is not a question of inaction. Rather, it is a matter of what action.

This is not a one-and-done issue. While Bears Ears National Monument status is a lightning rod, it is just the most currently visible example of what will be a long, hard series of fights the outdoor community needs to not only raise our voices about, but, even more importantly, about which we need to be heard.

Outdoor Retailer is the only gathering where the entire industry comes together to conduct commerce, share best practices and exchange ideas. There is no other event where the most respected iconic brands and retailers - large, medium and small in size - show up "en force."

But the boycott of Outdoor Retailer levies the most significant negative impact on those medium and small-sized companies that count on the show to conduct business. We have a unique, maybe even singular, opportunity to coalesce, organize, speak and lay plans to make a difference around public land awareness in such a way that it is not only heard but that it can make a positive difference.

Our goal is not just to speak. Our goal is to be heard.

Now is the time for action, not words. These are turbulent times with passions running high – a wonderful trait of the industry we serve. We share these passions. We hear you, are listening closely and taking action. Here is what we are doing:

An Ideal Venue: As swiftly as humanly possible, we are doing the work necessary to procure potential alternative locations for Outdoor Retailer. Though we may wish it different, this is far from a snap of the fingers thing to make happen. Convention centers and hotels are not sitting idle. In every instance of every potential venue, there are hurdles that have to be cleared and that simply cannot be done overnight.

We expect that our current proposal process – which we initiated before any of the company withdrawal announcements last week – will take between 60 and 90 days. We are exploring options for expediting this process and will keep you updated on the progress.

Gather Best Ideas: Outdoor Retailer and Outdoor Industry Association will harness the creative ideas already being put forth by exhibitors to express their opinions at Outdoor Retailer Summer Market. Through unity.outdoorretailer.com, we are exploring options including utilizing the time and funds earmarked for the Industry Breakfast as a time to express our opinions; rallies; conservation town halls; and a community camp out using city parks, among other ideas. We must work within the rules of the city, the existing permits we have and other laws by which we must abide. Our team has already begun to investigate what steps need to be taken to accommodate those activities. We are working in tandem with parties that have put forth ideas including brands, retailers, non-profits, rep groups and others.

We Need You: We need your voice. We need your support. And we need your creative ideas at unity.outdoorretailer.com. Please visit the site and lend your ideas to the community. We will provide updates on what we’ve gathered on Monday, February 27th.


Thank you,

Marisa Nicholson
Show Director of Outdoor Retailer

The unity.outdoorretailer.com

link takes you where folks involved with the Outdoor Retailer Show can express theor opinions.
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Feb 16, 2017 - 03:03pm PT
Peter Metcalf is a manipulative liar. He was playing this card 12-13 years ago and will likely get the same non-result.

As for Brian's claim that SLC can accommodate OR, that ship has long sailed. Now people have to book rooms out of county.

It is time to move, but for practical reasons. I like Denver.
Trashman

Trad climber
SLC
Feb 16, 2017 - 05:02pm PT
Hell Yes!

If the last 8 years have taught me anything it's that recalcitrance pays, civility is dead and voters don't really care about obstructionism. May as well hit Gary with the only vote$ he care$ about.
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Feb 16, 2017 - 05:27pm PT
HolyfkkingSchist! The Outdoor Retailer folks (Outdoor Industry Association) just grew some balls!

According to the Salt Lake Tribune, they met with Utah Gov. Herbert today & put the hammer down.

The Outdoor Retailer show is leaving Salt Lake City.

After an unproductive meeting between Gov. Gary Herbert and outdoor recreation business representatives, industry leaders say they hope to find a new location for the Outdoor Retailer shows "as soon as possible."

"Unfortunately, what we heard from Governor Herbert was more of the same," according to a written statement by the Outdoor Industry Association (OIA), which has close ties to the massive, twice-yearly shows in Salt Lake City.

"It is clear that the Governor indeed has a different perspective on the protections of public lands from that of our members and the majority of Western state voters, both Republicans and Democrats — that's bad for our American heritage, and it's bad for our businesses. We are therefore continuing our search for a new home as soon as possible."




The OIA said it specifically asked Herbert for four measures that outdoor businesses consider important to their future in Utah:

• End legal action or support for Congressional action that would facilitate the sale or transfer of federal lands to the states.

• End efforts to nullify the Antiquities Act.

• Stop seeking to reverse the designation of Bears Ears National Monument in southeast Utah. Herbert this month signed a resolution from the Utah Legislature asking President Donald Trump to rescind the monument designation.

• Support other public lands "that provide the backbone of the industries sales," OIA wrote.

Herbert did not agree, Roberts said
http://www.sltrib.com/news/4952414-155/outdoor-retailer-convention-leaving-utah?fullpage=1#undefined.gbpl
crusher

climber
Santa Monica, CA
Feb 16, 2017 - 08:42pm PT
So glad they grew a pair and will move. Those f*%?€<s trying to sell off public lands need to just stop and do something productive for their states with their time. Raping and pillaging lands that don't belong to them and that are some of the last pristine places doesn't help anyone. And Chaffitz has got to go, such a hypocrite, BIG LEAGUE!
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Feb 17, 2017 - 07:56am PT
I talked with a SLC-based rep buddy this morning. He forwarded me this link. Looks like Colorado wants the Outdoor Retailer Show quite a bit.

http://www.westword.com/news/outdoor-retailer-shows-pulling-out-of-utah-colorado-poised-to-capitalize-8803708
pyro

Big Wall climber
Calabasas
Feb 17, 2017 - 08:16am PT
Toker peter M is making alot of money with all that made in outside the U.S.A product.
Never did care too much for patagonia products but i like how they are petro dependand to creat their prodct..


Hypocrits using environment to sympathy their political leverage
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Feb 17, 2017 - 12:09pm PT
Hunting & fishing organizations are now teaming up with environmental groups to fight for keeping OUR public lands public.

Here's a little of a long report on the subject, from Reuters:

When Republican Congressman Jason Chaffetz of Utah introduced legislation last month to transfer about 3 million acres of federally-held public land to state control, he was bombarded by thousands of angry phone calls, letters and social media posts urging him to back off.

The pressure came not only from liberal environmentalists – but also from gun-toting, often conservative outdoors enthusiasts who are central to Chaffetz’ political base. Both camps fear that transferring federal lands to state control could open them up to drilling and coal mining rather than recreation and preservation.

"I hear you," Chaffetz wrote in a post on his Instagram account announcing the withdrawal of the bill. "I am a proud gun owner, hunter and love our public lands."

Outdoor sporting groups - long associated with conservatism because of their support for guns rights and small government - are now collaborating with the environmental left to fight U.S. President Donald Trump’s push to open more public lands to energy development. Such areas include national forests, parks and Native American tribal territories and account for about one fifth of the United States.

Recent funding data from the Foundation Center database, which aggregates information from tax filings, shows groups such as the Backcountry Hunters and Anglers and the Outdoor Alliance have accepted grants from big environmental and liberal foundations, including the Turner Foundation and the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-environment-sportsmen-insight-idUSKBN15W0EK

Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Feb 17, 2017 - 02:21pm PT
From SLC FOX News station channel 13, on the Outdoor Retailer show departing.

Local businesses said they'll be taking a hit.

"Outdoor Retailers is bar none our busiest time of the year as far as number of covers, and also as far as sales," said Fred Moesinger, owner of Caffe Molise and BTG Wine Bar, both within a half block walking distance of the Salt Palace Convention Center.

He said they have loyal customers and friends from Outdoor Retailers, so much so that a couple of them called to tell him the news Thursday.

"It's a huge loss for the state, for our recreation economy, and obviously a huge personal loss as well for myself and also all of our employees. It's really disappointing," he said. "This one hurts to lose, for sure."

The Utah Democratic Party issued a statement in reaction to the move:


“Today all Utahns are feeling the consequences of the far-right agenda of the Utah Republican Party. Through these frivolous law suits over public lands, and the designation of Bears Ears National Monument, Gov. Herbert and the Utah Republicans have lost Utah $45 Million in revenue with the exit of the Outdoor Retailers Convention.

With one breath, Governor Herbert touts our 5 , now 6, national monuments to increase tourism, and with another refuses to drop the party lines for the betterment of Utah’s economy. After listening to our Utah Republican leadership talk out of both sides of their mouth for years, the Outdoor Retailers finally put their foot down. Our Utah Republicans have proven once again that they have no respect for our beautiful and sacred lands.”

http://fox13now.com/2017/02/16/outdoor-retailers-will-not-consider-utah-for-site-of-future-shows/
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