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Reeotch
climber
4 Corners Area
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Way to go PATAGONIA
Putin' yer money where yer mouth is . . .
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nita
Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
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Right on Yvon, I hope other outdoor retailers follow suit.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Good to see someone stand up, hope more follow their lead.
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Right on Yvon, I hope other outdoor retailers follow suit.
Yvon seems to think so. I hope he is right.
If you want to make a statement, boycott the Utah ski resorts.
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AP
Trad climber
Calgary
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I am sure if Utah gained control of those lands they would ensure that the bulldozers and drilling rigs would be painted in nice colours to blend in with the landscape.
Good on ya Yvon
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skcreidc
Social climber
SD, CA
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If there ever was a time to stand up, now is it. Good job Patagonia!
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Just need the rest to follow...
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Don Paul
Big Wall climber
Denver CO
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+1 thanks for doing this!
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Matt's
climber
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what did patagonia get from going to these outdoor shows in the first place? They are an enormous brand, they don't need a tradeshow like this to meet with their sales reps/sponsored athletes/distributors/etc... In other words, they aren't losing anything from dropping a trade show like this.
I know in the bike industry, the big players (such as Specialized) have stopped attending the big bike shows.
best,
matt
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Matt's
climber
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Imagine if Apple declined to attend the consumer electronics show because of a similsr reason
Apple has their own shows and own product launches that are ridiculously well-attended. That is my point.
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drljefe
climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
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Thanks DMT.
"It's about leadership"
And it's not so much what Patagonia gains, it's what SLC/Utah stands to lose.
Let's hope other companies follow.
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kief
Trad climber
east side
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Well done YC.
It's time to move the entire show out of Utah. I used to attend its predecessor, the Snow Show, in Vegas. Albuquerque might work.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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It's time to move the entire show out of Utah.
Way past time...
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Interesting move. This will hurt the show and the state of Utah and does nothing but good for Patagonia, and hopefully for Bears Ears. I love it when a group of people or, in this case a company, has the clout to do something good and they actually have the sense to act on it.
There's so much Federal land in the western states that my knee jerk reaction is to be skeptical of the need for more. But this one's a no-brainer.
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Cragar
climber
MSLA - MT
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What was wrong with Reno? I liked it there and you can find good Basque food!
If your lucky enough, you might end up at the blackjack table that the Fish was sitting at in a cowboy hat. He kept holding his hand with both hands and pissing off the dealer. How the pitboss let that slide....I'll never know.
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Happiegrrrl2
Trad climber
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It would cause people to take notice and discuss.
Yup.
As we are discussing right now.
Thank you Patagonia.
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monolith
climber
state of being
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Apple does not present at CES, not since 1992.
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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If you don't stand for something you'll fall for anything.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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The reality is that YC is an exception, there is nobody in the industry as principled as him. But maybe, just hoping . . . . maybe we will see some spine.
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WBraun
climber
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fall for anything
Like you almost always do ......
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Zzzzz, such a insufferable bore.
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WBraun
climber
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Better stand up quick cause you just fell ..... lol
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steve s
Trad climber
eldo
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Werner, go change a tire or something.
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c wilmot
climber
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Anyone know how many barrels of oil Patagonia uses each year to produce their synthetic products? Also where is the source/sources? I wonder if the oil they use is ethically produced.
I would be interested to know
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kunlun_shan
Mountain climber
SF, CA
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Apple has their own shows and own product launches that are ridiculously well-attended.
Apple stopped attending the annual MacWorld tradeshow in 2009. The show was finally cancelled in 2015 by IDG.
Good on Patagonia and Chouinard for standing up for their principles. A friend, who regularly receives cheques from Patagonia for a photo of his they use, is convinced Yvon is trying to give as much money as he can to climbers.
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c wilmot
climber
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Wade- that does not answer my questions.
To postulate: if they are using oil from say.... Nigeria- then how does that alter their stated ethics?
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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I don't understand how you conflate privatization of public land with petroleum usage. Please
explain.
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WBraun
climber
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We live in a complicated world and no one is innocent but anyone who makes a stand where they can is alright
Yes, this is the way ......
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c wilmot
climber
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US produced oil is done under regulations and with concern for the environment. Other countries like Nigeria, brasil etc do not operate under such guidelines.
I just wonder where the oil they use comes from
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Ok, well that makes sense if your issue is sourcing petroleum. What does that have to do with selling US public lands to private concerns?
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Brian in SLC
Social climber
Salt Lake City, UT
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From Forbes last November:
Utah
Gross State Product $147 B
As of November 2016
At a Glance
Population: 3,018,200
Governor: Gary Herbert
Median Household Income: $62,912
Job Growth (2016): 3.1%
Cost of Doing Business: 5.3% below nat'l avg
College Attainment: 31.8%
Net Migration (2015): 15,700
Moody's Bond Rating: Aaa
Forbes Lists
#1 Best States for Business
#11 in Business Costs
#5 in Labor Supply
#2 in Regulatory Environment
#9 in Economic Climate
#2 in Growth Prospects
#21 in Quality of Life
Profile
Utah occupies the top spot for the sixth time in seven years (Virginia in 2013 was the lone outlier). The state has a very pro-business climate and companies benefit from energy costs that are 19% below the national average and fourth lowest in the U.S., according to Moody's Analytics. Utah’s employment has expanded 3.1% a year over the past five years—second best in the U.S. Utah is well known for its winter activities and tourism has soared since the 2002 Winter Olympics. With two-thirds of Utahns being members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Utah is the most religiously homogeneous state in the U.S.
Patagonia who? Ha ha...
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c wilmot
climber
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Those public lands are usually sold for oil and gas exploration...oil for which Patagonia has always been reliant on.
Is the oil they use ethically produced? Or does the concern only apply to our backyard?
Last post by me. not knocking YC or patagona- I support their actions
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ecdh
climber
the east
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Wonder if they will boycott the Shot Show with their tactical and military line, just for balance?
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dirtbag
climber
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Feb 7, 2017 - 02:12pm PT
Those public lands are usually sold for oil and gas exploration...oil for which Patagonia has always been reliant on.
Is the oil they use ethically produced? Or does the concern only apply to our backyard?
Last post by me. not knocking YC or patagona- I support their actions
That is what you are doing.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Good for Patagonia....you are never wrong when you stand up for your beliefs.
Folks....I'm getting nervous, I was in Patagonia when it happened but now i'm just a month away coming back with the creature skulking in the White House.
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Brian in SLC
Social climber
Salt Lake City, UT
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I'm sure your recent travel to Iran will go unnoticed, Jim.
Ha ha.
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Bad Climber
Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
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Wilmot:
Are you just rattling chains or being obtuse? AFAIK, you don't get to pick "where" your oil comes from. Is that even possible? It's a global market, yes? Please, enlighten us if that's an option. We could lobby Patagonia to do what you suggest.
BAd
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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And Pakistan. You know, I kind of hope they confront me...I'm kind of keyed up for a confrontstional experience. Four more weeks here before I approach the battlements.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Not being wrong Russ doesn't mean you can't get totally f*#ked.
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kunlun_shan
Mountain climber
SF, CA
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Is the oil they use ethically produced?
from http://www.patagonia.com/blog/2013/02/is-it-worth-it/ re. tar sands oil:
As we continue to track these projects through the Our Common Waters campaign, Patagonia recognizes that, as a business that relies on transportation of products from point of manufacture to our customers, we are daily relying on vehicles that are fueled by oil and gas products. Unlike the case where we can choose to buy only organic cotton for the clothes we make, or to use high levels of recycled content materials, our country’s infrastructure for oil and gas products doesn’t allow us to differentiate and choose between using tar sands oil and non-tar sands oil. It’s all mixed together: lower impact conventional oil products and “unconventional” oil products – and thus, we are using tar sands oil products.
In our opinion, this situation makes it all the more important to engage in activism with a goal of reducing the current and future reliance of our entire fuel system on high impact oil sources – our support of campaigns to slow the development of tar sands extraction and pipelines is in line with this goal.
At the same time, we are actively pursuing as much information about our supply chain reliance on tar sands fuel as possible. Patagonia is collaborating this year with the University of California Santa Barbara on a research project to determine if it is feasible for us to avoid using tar sands fuel in our transportation systems, as well as how best to integrate low-carbon fuels and/or alter our business practices to reduce carbon emissions. In addition, we will continue to support environmental groups taking action on the tar sands issue with our grants program and various communication channels.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Good find kunlun, but probably not enough to satisfy willnot
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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I'm getting nervous...
Why? We're the ones on the wrong side of the wall with this c*#ks@cker.
#impeachthedespot
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kunlun_shan
Mountain climber
SF, CA
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and, from http://www.patagonia.com/blog/2013/07/fracking-in-our-backyard/
We at Patagonia recognize that, as a business and as individual employees, we use natural gas that is almost certainly obtained through hydraulic fracking. Natural gas is used to generate 37% of the electricity in California where Patagonia has its headquarters. In addition, in regard to fossil fuels in general, many of our products are made from polyester and nylon, both of which are made from petroleum. However, much of Patagonia’s polyester clothing is made from recycled polyester (some from yarn manufacturing waste and others from recycled water or soda bottles). A few of our nylon products are made from recycled nylon. Patagonia also relies on gas and oil to ship its products: please see our blog posting on manufacturing, that includes mention of shipping and carbon footprints.
In the end, our current reliance on fossil fuel including natural gas, particularly for electricity and transportation, makes it all the more important to advocate for and support a shift to renewable energy sources (e.g. solar, wind and geothermal) and conservation.
As we learn more about the impact that fracking has on freshwater, we also recognize that there is controversy over the role of natural gas in our energy future. Many tout it as a green alternative or “bridge fuel” – a necessary alternative to coal as we transition to renewable sources. While we recognize that fracked natural gas is a large part of our nation’s energy mix, we question the bridge-fuel concept. If we subscribe to a positive view of fracked natural gas, and support investment in that path, will focus on this cheap and plentiful fuel thwart development of truly renewable sources? Will government and industry have the will to shift away from natural gas in time to avert ongoing catastrophic climate change? In the end, natural gas is a fossil fuel, the burning of which leads to more carbon in the atmosphere. We can’t drill our way to a clean energy future. And, we remain largely in the dark regarding the potential impact of unburned methane emissions and leaks from natural gas infrastructure. Due to this uncertainty, we feel it is essential that we move, as quickly as possible, to a low-carbon, renewable, and where possible, zero-carbon approach.
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Curt
climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
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Utah occupies the top spot for the sixth time in seven years (Virginia in 2013 was the lone outlier). The state has a very pro-business climate and companies benefit from energy costs that are 19% below the national average and fourth lowest in the U.S., according to Moody's Analytics. Utah’s employment has expanded 3.1% a year over the past five years—second best in the U.S. Utah is well known for its winter activities and tourism has soared since the 2002 Winter Olympics. With two-thirds of Utahns being members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Utah is the most religiously homogeneous state in the U.S.
Yes, but $12 billion of that annual spending in Utah and 122,000 jobs come from outdoor recreation. Patagonia now sees Utah as hostile to outdoor recreation.
"...Because of the hostile environment they have created and their blatant disregard for Bears Ears National Monument and other public lands, the backbone of our business, Patagonia will no longer attend the Outdoor Retailer show in Utah and we are confident other outdoor manufacturers and retailers will join us in moving our investment to a state that values our industry and promotes public lands conservation.“ – Rose Marcario, President and CEO, Patagonia, Inc.
Good for Patagonia. Hopefully many others will follow.
Curt
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Boycott Utah.
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7SacredPools
Trad climber
Ontario, Canada
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Cool post DMT.
I've been aware of their corporate ethics and support of environmental issues since before I bought my first Patagonia jacket (on sale!) over 30 years ago. Good stuff, but I really hate the colors of late.
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AP
Trad climber
Calgary
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Jim, hopefully Immigration will let you post on here while they detain you.
Maybe write a Trump Trip Report.
Imagine if you had converted to Islam.
Just kidding hope you have a good trip
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ms55401
Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
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I support this move fully and hope that many other companies follow suit.
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trailridge127
Trad climber
Loveland, CO
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Disclaimer, I am cynical and I know that: Personally, I think it is a drop in the bucket. My favorite climbing and skiing areas are not ruined by oil companies or massive mines but rather a large influx of new climbers/skiers. Those same people are targeted by Patagonia's marketing department.
How about the housing for all the x coasters that want to live the Patagonia lifestyle. Building thousands of track homes in the deserts. Red Rocks? Do you really think the new sub division wont be filled with Patagonia wearing climbers?
I once was an environmental activist, until I opened my eyes and saw that its not oil companies fault that we need oil to go climbing. Human nature is the problem. But it is tough to stop being human.
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Trashman
Trad climber
SLC
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US produced oil is done under regulations and with concern for the environment.
BuIIshit
And the Bookcliffs are even worse with pilot tar sands projects collecting wildlife. If you're going to pay a bunch of corrupt welfare ranchers to spoil the planet, it may as well be in a godforsaken outdoor recreation wasteland like the ones you mentioned. After all, "watching out for #1" is the new way, right?
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trailridge127
Trad climber
Loveland, CO
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Taking care of number 1 is more old than new.
Just watch 180 degrees south smoke some pot and feel better.
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Trashman
Trad climber
SLC
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Hey, if you're so concerned w keeping the pataguchi hoards out shouldn't you be supporting energy regulation? You know, that way they couldn't afford to drive their bitchin' Tacos down to crowd the places you started developing 25+ years ago.
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
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LIST OF ALL BUSINESSES THAT WILL BOYCOTT OR?
Add below...
Cilogear [thinking about it as of 2/7/2017]
We have buying power. Voices can be heard. Voices make pain for reps and senators. Pain forces change.
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ms55401
Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
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my conspicuous absence at the Deer Valley St. Regis is going to cost Utah $348.21 -- and that's counting Saturday's bar tab only. [off the books, but still contributing to the bottom line, is a couple of SLC's finest hookers]
long overdue to move the OR out of this spiteful, regressive state. Move it to Minnesota! We have Democrats across the board! The congressman representing Minneapolis is Muslim for Christ's sake
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Brian in SLC
Social climber
Salt Lake City, UT
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The infrastructure to host this huge rig would have to be in place.
My bet is Ventura doesn't have the convention center size and hotel space needed. The beauty of SLC is that we do.
What host cities fit?
Spokane WA?
Back to Reno?
Denver?
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Reeotch
climber
4 Corners Area
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There is an event being put on by Friends of Cedar Mesa, on March 3rd - 4th in Bluff Utah.
https://www.friendsofcedarmesa.org/celebrate/
Any locals should attend. I'm hoping to get some idea of what to expect next.
Plus, I wouldn't be surprised if some of the anti-Bear's Ears forces show up!
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geiger
Trad climber
Doylestown pa
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If you want to read a great book try, "Let My People Go - Surfing ". It is about the business history of what is now Patagonia and Black Diamond. Yvon's approach was truly a ground breaking business model. For a laugh then compare it to "Art of the Deal" by #45.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Feb 10, 2017 - 11:43am PT
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Ibex will be there, but with a purpose of advocacy.
Polartec is out.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Feb 10, 2017 - 12:23pm PT
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This, too
To our elected officials and those who value America’s great outdoors:
This open letter expresses the view of more than 100 leaders of large and small businesses in the outdoor industry, which contributes more than $650 billion annually to the U.S. economy, generates $80 billion in tax revenue and employs more than 6 million people. Together, we represent a huge range of activities—from hiking to hunting and camping to conservation.
Our businesses make the lives of everyday Americans, from every corner of the political spectrum, healthier and happier. We do not often unite as an industry in the way we are today but we are compelled to make clear our collective view on a vitally important issue that affects the economic health of our industry, our local communities, and the lives of all Americans.
It is an American right to roam in our public lands. The people of the United States, today and tomorrow, share equally in the ownership of these majestic places. This powerful idea transcends party lines and sets our country apart from the rest of the world. That is why we strongly oppose any proposal, current or future, that devalues or compromises the integrity of our national public lands.
Yet as the 115th Congress begins, efforts are underway that threaten to undermine over one hundred years of public investment, stewardship and enjoyment of our national public lands. Stated simply, these efforts would be bad for the American people. They include the potential of national public lands being privatized or given to states who might sell them to the highest bidder. This would unravel courageous efforts by leaders from across the political spectrum up to the present day, including Jefferson, Lincoln and Roosevelt.
This is not a red or blue issue. It is an issue that affects our shared freedoms. Public lands should remain in public hands.
We hold these views both as leaders of the outdoor industry — which creates significant economic value for this country — and as individuals who believe deeply that the next generation should be free to benefit from our national public lands as we and our families do today.
The undersigned companies are therefore working together to ensure that all Americans maintain their right to our iconic national public lands and that it is not taken away.
Outdoor Industry Association, Amy Roberts, Executive Director
Adventure 16. John D. Mead, President
Alpacka Raft, Thor Tingey, CEO / Founder
Alpine Shop, Ltd., Russell Hollenbeck, President
Appalachian Outfitters, Mike & Karen Leffler, Owners
Ascent Solar Technologies, Victor Lee, President & CEO
Backbone Media, Penn Newhard, Founder & Managing Partner
Backcountry, Jonathan Nielsen, CEO
Backcountry North, Tracy Mayer, Owner
Backwoods Retail, Inc., Jennifer Mull, Owner & CEO
Benchmade Knife Company, David Fee, Vice President
BioLite, Jonathan Cedar, Founder & CEO
Black Creek Outfitters, Joe & Liz Butler, Owners
Black Diamond Equipment Ltd., John Walbrecht, President
Braided River, Helen Cherullo, Executive Director
Brook Hopper Consulting, Brook Hopper, Founder & CEO
Brooks Running Company, Jim Weber, CEO
Burley Design, Allison Coughlin, President
Burton Snowboards, Donna Carpenter, CEO
Campmate, Chris Holt, CEO
Cascade Designs, David Burroughs, President
Cedar Ravine, Stephanie Carmi & Christine Stahr, Co-Founders
CGPR LLC, Chris Ann Goddard, President
Chaco, Seth Cobb, President
Champaign Surplus, Dan & Shira Epstein, Owners
Chimani, Inc., Kerry Gallivan, Founder & CEO
Clif Bar & Company, Kevin Cleary, CEO
Columbia Sportswear Company, Tim Boyle, President & CEO
Combat Flip Flops, Matthew Griffin, CEO
Concept III Textiles, Christopher Parkes, President
Confluence Watersports, Sue Rechner, President & CEO
Cotopaxi, Davis Smith, Founder/CEO
Dakine, Ken Meidell, CEO
Darn Tough Vermont, Ric Cabot, President & CEO
Denali, Chris Howe, Owner
Deuter, Bill Hartrampf, President
Diamond Brand Outdoors, Will Gay, Owner
Digital Operative, BJ Cook, CEO
DPS Skis, Stephan Drake, Owner
Eagle Creek, Roger Spatz, President
Eastside Sports, Chris Iversen & Todd Vogel, Co-Owners
eGrips, Chris Klinke, President
Elevenpine, Jeff Curran, CEO
Equinox Ltd., Robert Cross, President
Exxel Outdoors, LLC, Harry Kazazian, CEO
Far Bank Enterprises, Travis Campbell, President & CEO
Fayettechill, Andrew Gibbs-Dabney, CEO
Feral Mountain Co., Jimmy Funkhouser, Owner
First Lite, Kenton Carruth, Co-Founder and Owner
Fishpond, John Land Le Coq, Founder & CEO
Flowfold, James Morin, Owner & COO
Garmont, Bill Dodge, CEO
Goal Zero, William Harmon, General Manager
Good To-Go, David Koorits, Founder
Grassroots Outdoor Alliance, Rich Hill, President
Great Outdoor Provision Co., Travis Zarins, Owner
GU Energy Labs, Brian Vaughan, Founder/CEO
Hipcamp, Alyssa Ravasio, Founder & CEO
HippyTree, Andrew Sarnecki, Founder/CEO
Hydro Flask, Scott Allan, General Manager
Ibex Outdoor Clothing, Ted Manning, CEO
IceMule Coolers, James Collie, Founder/CEO
Idaho Mountain Touring, Chris & Jill Haunold, Owners
IPA Connect, Andy Marker, President/Founder
JanSport, Steve Munn, President
Jax Mercantile Co., Jim Quinlan, President
Kammok, Haley Robison, CEO
Keen, Casey Sheahan, CEO
Klean Kanteen, Jim Osgood, President & CEO
Kokatat, Steve O’Meara, Founder/CEO
Kuhl, Kevin Boyle, President
La Sportiva N.A., Inc., Jonathan Lantz, President
Light Speed Outdoors, Brian Cox, CEO
L.L. Bean, Stephen Smith, President & CEO
Lucy, Laurie Etheridge, President
Manzanita Outdoor LLC, David Wheeler, Owner
Massey’s Outfitters, Mike Massey, President
Merrell, Inc., Jim Zwiers, President
MiiR, Bryan Papé, Founder & CEO
MONTANE, Jake Doxat, Managing Director
Mountain Hardwear, Dennis Randall, CMO
Mountain Khakis, Ross Saldarini, President
Mountain Safety Research (MSR), Chris Parkhurst, Vice President
Mountain Works, Inc., Jim Smith, President
MTI Adventurewear, Lili Colby, Owner
My Outdoor Alphabet, Seth Neilson, CEO
Native Eyewear, John Sanchez, General Manager
Nau International, Inc., Mark Galbraith, General Manager
Nemo, Cam Brensinger, CEO
New Balance, Rob DeMartini, President & CEO
Nikwax North America, Rick Meade, President
Oboz Footwear, John Connelly, CEO
Ortlieb USA, Jeff Scully, President
Ortovox, Bill Hartrampf, President
Oru Kayak, Roberto Gutierrez, Founder & CCO
Orvis, Perk Perkins, CEO
Osprey Packs, Layne Rigney, President
Outdoor Research, Dan Nordstrom, CEO
Outside Brands / Outside Hilton Head, Mike Overton, CEO
Pack & Paddle, John Williams, President
Pack Rat Outdoor Center, Scott & Carolyn Crook, Founders & Owners
Packtowl, Doug Jacot, Vice President
Pakayak, Doug Mackro, President & CEO
Pangaea Ltd./Feathered Friends, Peter Hickner, President
Patagonia, Rose Marcario, President & CEO
Peak Design, Peter Dering, Founder & CEO
Petzl America, Nazz Kurth, President
Piragis Northwoods Company, Steve Piragis, Owner
Pistil Designs, Todd Douglass, Forrest Jones & Pete Hixson, Founders
Platypus, Doug Jacot, Vice President
Point6, Peter Duke, CEO
Portland WoolenMills, Doug Hoschek & Tina Machuca, Owners
prAna Living, Scott Kerslake, CEO
Ramsey Outdoor, Stuart and Michael Levine, Owners
Redington, Travis Campbell, President & CEO
Red Lantern Journeys, Ambrose Bittner, Founder & Managing Director
REI Co-op, Jerry Stritzke, President & CEO
Rio, Travis Campbell, President & CEO
Rising Tide Associates, David Costello, Principal
River Sports Outfitters, Ed McAlister, Owner
Roads Rivers and Trails, Emily White, Co-Founder & Owner
Rock Creek Outfitters, Dawson Wheeler, Founder
Roots Rated, Fynn Glover, Founder/CEO
Royal Robbins, Michael Millenacker, CEO
Ruffwear, Patrick Kruse, R&D Director & Founder
Rutabaga Paddlesports, Darren Bush, Owner & CEO
rygr, Brian Holcombe, Principal
Sage, Travis Campbell, President & CEO
Salewa North America, Brian Mecham, General Manager
Sanitas Sales Group, Keith Reis, President
SCARPA North America, Kim Miller, CEO
SealLine, Doug Jacot, Vice President
Simms, K.C. Walsh, President & CEO
Skinny Skis, Phil Leeds & Scott O’Brien, Owners
Soar Communications, Chip Smith, President
Sorel, Mark Nenow, President
Stanley PMI, Kelly Kraus, Vice President, Stanley Brand
Stio, Stephen Sullivan, Founder/ CEO
Summit Hut, Dana Davis, President & Co-Owner
Sunday Afternoons, Inc., Sarah Sameh, CEO
Sunlight Sports, Wes Allen, Owner
Superfeet Worldwide, John Rauvola, CEO
Tahoe Mountain Sports, Dave Polivy, Co-Owner
Tenkara USA, Daniel Galhardo, Founder & CEO
Terra, PR, Alli Noland, Founder
The Base Camp, Scott Brown, Owner
The Mountaineer, Vinny McClelland, President
The North Face, Scott Baxter, Group President
The Outbound Collective, Brian Heifferon, Founder & CEO
The Trail Head, Todd Frank, Owner
The Toggery, Trek Stephens, President
Therm-a-Rest Brands, Doug Jacot, Vice President
Three Streams Productions, Eric Hardee, Owner
Timberland, Jim Pisani, President
Timbuk2, Patti Cazzato, CEO
Toad&Co, Gordon Seabury, CEO (& OIA board chair)
Topo Athletic, Tony Post, Founder & CEO
Trail Creek Outfitters, Ed Camelli & Brian Havertine, Owners
Trango, Chris Klinke, President
Travel Country, Mike Plante, Owner
Trek Light Gear, Seth Haber, Founder & CEO
22 Designs, Chris Valiante, Owner
Ute Mountaineer, Bob Wade & Maile Spung, Owners
Vans, Doug Palladini, President
Verde Brand Communications, Kristin Carpenter-Ogden, President and Founder
Vestigo, Marshall Mosher, CEO &Founder
VF Corporation, Steve Rendle, President & CEO
Weighmyrack, Allison Dennis, Founder & CEO
Western Spirit Cycling, Ashley Korenblat, CEO
What’s UP Public Relations, Beth L. Cochran, Founder/Owner
Wild Things, LLC, Edward M. Schmults, CEO
Wolverine Worldwide, Inc., Blake Krueger, CEO
Woolrich, Inc., Nick Brayton, President
Yakima Products, Ryan Martin, CEO
Zumiez, Inc., Tom Campion, Founder & Chairman
https://outdoorindustry.org/article/together-can-defend-public-lands/
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couchmaster
climber
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Feb 10, 2017 - 01:59pm PT
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Donini, if they stop you at the border and ask if you voted for Hillary just squint and stare. Pause, then say: "I'm a climber, everyone knows Sir Edmund Hillary was a New Zealand citizen and ineligible to run for President. But he was a hell of a climber and humanitarian."
Bam, you're in.
Hope that helps ya.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Feb 10, 2017 - 03:57pm PT
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Couchmaster....I have visas from Iran and Pakistan in my passport. I hope they have questions....I'm burning for a fight!
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Feb 10, 2017 - 04:10pm PT
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I can see it now! Hopefully you won't clear customes in SLC!
Donini?? Ain't that one of them "foreign" names?
And didn't yew use to work for that-there Patagonia bunch?
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Feb 10, 2017 - 04:13pm PT
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Looks like Metolius is out too...
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WBraun
climber
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Feb 10, 2017 - 04:17pm PT
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Customs guys in LAX are the biggest azholes.
Everytime I go thru there those pricks think I'm a drug mule and want to saw all my sh!t in half after x-raying it.
They can't do it anymore as I'm a flyin smokin duck now faster than the buckshot from Elmer Fudd .....
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ms55401
Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
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Feb 10, 2017 - 05:47pm PT
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Big deal, nobody will miss them.
that's funny. I'd like to hear your view of how diversified and robust Utah's economy happens to be.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Feb 10, 2017 - 07:43pm PT
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Patagonia figures the only way to get Utah's conservative legislatures' attention is to disrupt their cash flow...Good assessment...
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Feb 10, 2017 - 08:29pm PT
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RJ! I strongly suspect many of those right-wing Utah politicians are going to start suffering some negative input.
Utah Rep. Jason Chaffetz did a town hall meeting in the nicely Mormon, conservative, & white, SLC suburb of Bountiful this week. It turned real ugly for him. Chaffez had previously introduced & then withdrew a bill to sell 3 million acres of BLM lands, after major pushback from hunting & fishing groups.
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/rep-jason-chaffetz-faces-angry-town-hall-crowd-utah-n719231
‘Do Your Job!’: Rep. Jason Chaffetz Faces Angry Town Hall Crowd in Utah
In November, Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) won reelection to one of the most Republican districts in the nation, with 73 percent of the vote.
On Thursday night, he found himself facing a very different picture. Thousands of people crowded in and outside of what was supposed to be a run-of-the-mill town hall in Utah to boo him and chant, “You work for us” and “Do your job!” Reporters heard those who couldn't get into the 1,080-person auditorium yelling: “Bring him out!”
Chaffertz repeatedly pleaded "hold on," and "give me a second" as he was drowned out by shouting.
Hundreds of people stood outside the auditorium holding signs and chanting "vote him out," while one woman was arrested.
Chaffetz also faced opposition when he said that he hoped Trump would repeal the newly-named Bears Ears National Monument in southern Utah, which some present feared would lead to drilling and mining on the land.
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Brian in SLC
Social climber
Salt Lake City, UT
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Feb 10, 2017 - 09:17pm PT
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^^^A couple miles from my home...we went. Good times.
Wild times...
(ps: was in the southern part of Salt Lake County in Cottonwood Heights at Bountiful High School, not Bountiful).
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Feb 10, 2017 - 09:45pm PT
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Brian! Re your correction:
(ps: was in the southern part of Salt Lake County in Cottonwood Heights at Bountiful High School, not Bountiful).
Ooops. I should have caught that, since I lived near the mouth of Big Cottonwood Canyon in Cottonwood Heights for 1 1/2 years, before escaping back to Idaho in 1984.
I had been raised in Mormon culture, & had been in a Mormon Boy Scout troop, during my youth in small-town S. Idaho. However, my wife & I soon learned we were "black," since we were the only non-Mormons in our neighborhood.
Bountiful, or Bountiful High School, it was still an amazing "eye-gouge" for Republican politicians in Utah.
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Brian in SLC
Social climber
Salt Lake City, UT
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Feb 10, 2017 - 10:16pm PT
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Interesting to see the post event spin...
//Chaffetz said the crowd that filled the auditorium at Brighton High School in Cottonwood Heights and spilled over into a protest outside included people brought in from other states to disrupt the meeting.
"Absolutely. I know there were," he said, suggesting it was "more of a paid attempt to bully and intimidate" than a reflection of the feelings of his 3rd District constituents.//
http://www.ksl.com/?sid=43144461&nid=148&title=chaffetz-says-town-hall-crowd-tried-bullying-and-intimidation
I'm still waiting for my payday...ha ha.
Actually knew a fair number of people there, and, chatted with a gob more. No one I talked to was from out of town. Most from his district. No out of state plates on any cars. Fun mix of older and younger voters. Police were great.
The high school is in a neighborhood. A bunch of folks just walked from home. Was a warm night.
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Brian in SLC
Social climber
Salt Lake City, UT
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Feb 11, 2017 - 12:57pm PT
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Crazy to be at an event, then, see the spin following that event.
Even the KSL article referenced above (the local news) updated to soften the tone:
Editor's note: This article has been updated to include more context from the citizens' points of view during the town hall meeting.
In the initial article, Chaffetz claimed that the crowd booed during the Pledge of Allegiance.
Now KSL has a clip that was posted from someone in the crowd that shows no booing. And, cheering after "and liberty and justice for all". Which was what actually happened.
That's a heck of a pivot. And, KSL had folks there. Why the initial article wasn't an honest account is weird.
Chaffetz following the event in reference to the "booing": "That’s who these people are," he said. "We’re better than that. That’s not what the average Utahn is like."
What's hilarious, this divide-and-conquer tactic, is to consider that Chaffetz has only lived in Utah since he went to BYU in the late 80's. Born and raised in California. He's no "local". Hell, he was a Democrat until 1990.
Us v them. Funny. The LDS folks I associate with daily didn't vote for him either.
Its interesting to see something from the ground level and the distortion that comes later.
Ugh....
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
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Feb 11, 2017 - 01:03pm PT
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Brian, Glad to hear you were at the event. I had family members there and Mr Libeki and his were there too.
SLC is very Blue. If the Reds aren't smart enougn to realize that the money is in outdoor recreation, they are going to suffer hard.
Okay with me if they move that show to Los Angeles here. We'll take it.
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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Feb 11, 2017 - 01:13pm PT
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The LDS folks I associate with daily didn't vote for him either
x2
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Feb 11, 2017 - 01:20pm PT
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SLC is very Blue.
I've heard that. In fact, didn't SLC have a mayor who was gay, back in the 90s?
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Brian in SLC
Social climber
Salt Lake City, UT
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Feb 11, 2017 - 01:21pm PT
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Yeah, Mike and friend Dan were passing out the Bear's Ears posters that they got from Jeremy Collins. Ran out in about 2 minutes while in line. There was a dropbox to download if folks wanted. Fair climber presence (along with backcountry skiers and I chatted with a hunter who had a sign about keeping public land public).
Was a neat mix of people. Young and old. Men and women. Not sure Chaffetz had many folks who voted for him there.
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Brian in SLC
Social climber
Salt Lake City, UT
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Feb 11, 2017 - 01:24pm PT
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I've heard that. In fact, didn't SLC have a mayor who was gay, back in the 90s?
Jackie, the current mayor...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackie_Biskupski
Beat Ralph. Darn it. I liked Ralph. The debacle with the well liked police chief sealed his fate, unfortunately.
Ralph took over for Rocky.
All "liberal" mayors.
Edit to add: in fact, SLC hasn't had a Republican mayor since 1972's Jake "in space" Garn.
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More Air
Trad climber
S.L.C.
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Feb 11, 2017 - 09:38pm PT
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Black Diamond's Peter Metcalf has been on local television pushing to move the OR show out of Utah unless the Governor drops current efforts to stop Bears Ears. Problem is, if the show moves, then the big bargaining chip that the industry has will be gone. IMO if Peter really wants to protect Utah's public lands, then it's best for the show to stay in Salt Lake City.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Feb 12, 2017 - 09:43am PT
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a national trade-show is yesterdays business model and this is a fig-leaf?
very true, right here on ST we are seeing the development of new products real time (OW cams) and the guys have customers all lined up, he does not need to go to a trade show.
Not sure how much bargaining power the outdoor industry really has with the extreme right. I view a move as payback at this point, the principle that we should not give these guys our dollars. I go out of my way not to spend money in Arizona. Gas is about all I buy in that state. Maybe I should add Utah to that list of places not to spend mooney but I have met some great people in Utah, I would miss Brianhead too much. Utah is definitely not in Arizona's class politically
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Srbphoto
climber
Kennewick wa
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Feb 12, 2017 - 11:29am PT
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so I wonder if Patagonia will close the SLC outlet?
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Feb 12, 2017 - 11:31am PT
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Jim! Re your good question, What are the opinions of Bass Pro Shops and similar hunting and fishing focused outlets regarding Privatization of American public land ?
which GF did a good job of answering. I have thoughts along the line of his answer, that are a little more extreme.
I know that the Republican politicians in power in Idaho mostly ignore the input of traditional conservationist organizations.
In red-states like Idaho & Utah, it's time for climbers, kayakers, & backpackers to take a deep breath & firmly align ourselves with hunters, fishers, horse-folk, ATV, dirt-bike, & snowmobile riders, rockhounds, & car-campers. Anyone that enjoys our current access to public lands should now be our ally, because
"The enemy of my enemy is my friend."
A recent example of how effective hunting & fishing groups are at fighting the current attempts to grab out Federal lands, is Utah Rep. Chaffetz withdrawing his bill to sell 3.3 million acres of BLM land.
Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) withdrew legislation Thursday that would have transferred 3 million acres of land from federal to state ownership, citing objections from constituents who complained that the move would limit access to public hunting and fishing grounds.
A wide array of outdoors groups praised the move.
Aaron Kindle, Western sportsmen’s campaign manager for the National Wildlife Federation, said in a statement that his group appreciates “that Mr. Chaffetz listened” to those opposed to the bill.
“This loss would have forever robbed the American people of the amazing bounty these and all public lands provide,” Kindle said. “Another good move would be to withdraw the recently approved House rule that devalues public lands and makes them easier to dispose of.”
Katie McKalip, communications director for the Montana-based Backcountry Hunters and Anglers, said in an email that its members and others “have sent a clear message, in no uncertain terms, that Americans greatly value our nation’s public lands and waters and that we will not tolerate actions by our elected officials that diminish them.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2017/02/02/facing-backlash-utah-rep-jason-chaffetz-withdraws-bill-to-transfer-federal-land-to-the-states/?utm_term=.3d5d5c20bf93
I just joined Backcountry Hunters & Anglers & intend to join some other hunting & fishing organizations that favor keeping OUR public lands public.
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stevep
Boulder climber
Salt Lake, UT
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Feb 12, 2017 - 06:51pm PT
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Salt Lake City is very liberal, and Salt Lake County voted for Hillary, as did Summit County, where Park City is.
However, the GOP state legislature gerrymandered Salt Lake County into pieces, breaking it up so that each part is paired with a large section of rural, conservative UT. Thus making it more likely for Republican Congressional representatives, such as Chaffetz, whose district goes from SLC down to Moab and Bears Ears.
Given the fact that Chaffetz held his town hall in the SLC suburbs, and given how important outdoor recreation is to many people here in SLC, I'm not one bit surprised that he got a lot of protesters. No need to bring in any from out of state. I'd have been there myself if I was not out of town on business.
P.S. - The UT Director of Outdoor Recreation (appointed by the Governor), is Tom Adams, a long-time SLC climber/skier/biker, and former Petzl employee. Hopefully these protests give Tom additional leverage with the Governor.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Feb 12, 2017 - 07:06pm PT
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Chaffetz is yet another example of the out of touch politician / puppet who finally gets it when he's about to get run over by public opinion...vote the d#@&%e out...
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Don Paul
Big Wall climber
Denver CO
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Feb 12, 2017 - 08:01pm PT
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Should move it up to Lander & combine with the climbing/beer drinking festival.
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Feb 16, 2017 - 01:58pm PT
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I received this email from Outdoor Retailer on Feb. 14.
Our Goal is Not Just to Speak. Our Goal is to be Heard.
The last week has certainly been an interesting time as a show organizer and I am most thankful for the incredible team at Outdoor Retailer, our partner - the Outdoor Industry Association, rep associations, retailers and brands, in addition to the hundreds of emails offering support.
We respect that brands have to make decisions that reflect their values. However, in the last week, the heart-felt expressions of support for the show from exhibitors of all sizes have far outweighed those choosing not to participate. Iconic brands such as adidas Outdoor, Ibex, The Conservation Alliance, The North Face, REI and Wolverine Worldwide, among many others have not only reinforced their intent to come to SLC this summer, but also, will make their voices louder than ever before. (Please look at unity.outdoorretailer.com for specific expressions of support.)
We can all most easily agree that this is not a question of inaction. Rather, it is a matter of what action.
This is not a one-and-done issue. While Bears Ears National Monument status is a lightning rod, it is just the most currently visible example of what will be a long, hard series of fights the outdoor community needs to not only raise our voices about, but, even more importantly, about which we need to be heard.
Outdoor Retailer is the only gathering where the entire industry comes together to conduct commerce, share best practices and exchange ideas. There is no other event where the most respected iconic brands and retailers - large, medium and small in size - show up "en force."
But the boycott of Outdoor Retailer levies the most significant negative impact on those medium and small-sized companies that count on the show to conduct business. We have a unique, maybe even singular, opportunity to coalesce, organize, speak and lay plans to make a difference around public land awareness in such a way that it is not only heard but that it can make a positive difference.
Our goal is not just to speak. Our goal is to be heard.
Now is the time for action, not words. These are turbulent times with passions running high – a wonderful trait of the industry we serve. We share these passions. We hear you, are listening closely and taking action. Here is what we are doing:
An Ideal Venue: As swiftly as humanly possible, we are doing the work necessary to procure potential alternative locations for Outdoor Retailer. Though we may wish it different, this is far from a snap of the fingers thing to make happen. Convention centers and hotels are not sitting idle. In every instance of every potential venue, there are hurdles that have to be cleared and that simply cannot be done overnight.
We expect that our current proposal process – which we initiated before any of the company withdrawal announcements last week – will take between 60 and 90 days. We are exploring options for expediting this process and will keep you updated on the progress.
Gather Best Ideas: Outdoor Retailer and Outdoor Industry Association will harness the creative ideas already being put forth by exhibitors to express their opinions at Outdoor Retailer Summer Market. Through unity.outdoorretailer.com, we are exploring options including utilizing the time and funds earmarked for the Industry Breakfast as a time to express our opinions; rallies; conservation town halls; and a community camp out using city parks, among other ideas. We must work within the rules of the city, the existing permits we have and other laws by which we must abide. Our team has already begun to investigate what steps need to be taken to accommodate those activities. We are working in tandem with parties that have put forth ideas including brands, retailers, non-profits, rep groups and others.
We Need You: We need your voice. We need your support. And we need your creative ideas at unity.outdoorretailer.com. Please visit the site and lend your ideas to the community. We will provide updates on what we’ve gathered on Monday, February 27th.
Thank you,
Marisa Nicholson
Show Director of Outdoor Retailer
The unity.outdoorretailer.com
link takes you where folks involved with the Outdoor Retailer Show can express theor opinions.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Feb 16, 2017 - 03:03pm PT
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Peter Metcalf is a manipulative liar. He was playing this card 12-13 years ago and will likely get the same non-result.
As for Brian's claim that SLC can accommodate OR, that ship has long sailed. Now people have to book rooms out of county.
It is time to move, but for practical reasons. I like Denver.
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Trashman
Trad climber
SLC
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Feb 16, 2017 - 05:02pm PT
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Hell Yes!
If the last 8 years have taught me anything it's that recalcitrance pays, civility is dead and voters don't really care about obstructionism. May as well hit Gary with the only vote$ he care$ about.
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Feb 16, 2017 - 05:27pm PT
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HolyfkkingSchist! The Outdoor Retailer folks (Outdoor Industry Association) just grew some balls!
According to the Salt Lake Tribune, they met with Utah Gov. Herbert today & put the hammer down.
The Outdoor Retailer show is leaving Salt Lake City.
After an unproductive meeting between Gov. Gary Herbert and outdoor recreation business representatives, industry leaders say they hope to find a new location for the Outdoor Retailer shows "as soon as possible."
"Unfortunately, what we heard from Governor Herbert was more of the same," according to a written statement by the Outdoor Industry Association (OIA), which has close ties to the massive, twice-yearly shows in Salt Lake City.
"It is clear that the Governor indeed has a different perspective on the protections of public lands from that of our members and the majority of Western state voters, both Republicans and Democrats — that's bad for our American heritage, and it's bad for our businesses. We are therefore continuing our search for a new home as soon as possible."
The OIA said it specifically asked Herbert for four measures that outdoor businesses consider important to their future in Utah:
• End legal action or support for Congressional action that would facilitate the sale or transfer of federal lands to the states.
• End efforts to nullify the Antiquities Act.
• Stop seeking to reverse the designation of Bears Ears National Monument in southeast Utah. Herbert this month signed a resolution from the Utah Legislature asking President Donald Trump to rescind the monument designation.
• Support other public lands "that provide the backbone of the industries sales," OIA wrote.
Herbert did not agree, Roberts said
http://www.sltrib.com/news/4952414-155/outdoor-retailer-convention-leaving-utah?fullpage=1#undefined.gbpl
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crusher
climber
Santa Monica, CA
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Feb 16, 2017 - 08:42pm PT
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So glad they grew a pair and will move. Those f*%?€<s trying to sell off public lands need to just stop and do something productive for their states with their time. Raping and pillaging lands that don't belong to them and that are some of the last pristine places doesn't help anyone. And Chaffitz has got to go, such a hypocrite, BIG LEAGUE!
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Feb 17, 2017 - 08:16am PT
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Toker peter M is making alot of money with all that made in outside the U.S.A product.
Never did care too much for patagonia products but i like how they are petro dependand to creat their prodct..
Hypocrits using environment to sympathy their political leverage
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Feb 17, 2017 - 12:09pm PT
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Hunting & fishing organizations are now teaming up with environmental groups to fight for keeping OUR public lands public.
Here's a little of a long report on the subject, from Reuters:
When Republican Congressman Jason Chaffetz of Utah introduced legislation last month to transfer about 3 million acres of federally-held public land to state control, he was bombarded by thousands of angry phone calls, letters and social media posts urging him to back off.
The pressure came not only from liberal environmentalists – but also from gun-toting, often conservative outdoors enthusiasts who are central to Chaffetz’ political base. Both camps fear that transferring federal lands to state control could open them up to drilling and coal mining rather than recreation and preservation.
"I hear you," Chaffetz wrote in a post on his Instagram account announcing the withdrawal of the bill. "I am a proud gun owner, hunter and love our public lands."
Outdoor sporting groups - long associated with conservatism because of their support for guns rights and small government - are now collaborating with the environmental left to fight U.S. President Donald Trump’s push to open more public lands to energy development. Such areas include national forests, parks and Native American tribal territories and account for about one fifth of the United States.
Recent funding data from the Foundation Center database, which aggregates information from tax filings, shows groups such as the Backcountry Hunters and Anglers and the Outdoor Alliance have accepted grants from big environmental and liberal foundations, including the Turner Foundation and the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-environment-sportsmen-insight-idUSKBN15W0EK
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Feb 17, 2017 - 02:21pm PT
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From SLC FOX News station channel 13, on the Outdoor Retailer show departing.
Local businesses said they'll be taking a hit.
"Outdoor Retailers is bar none our busiest time of the year as far as number of covers, and also as far as sales," said Fred Moesinger, owner of Caffe Molise and BTG Wine Bar, both within a half block walking distance of the Salt Palace Convention Center.
He said they have loyal customers and friends from Outdoor Retailers, so much so that a couple of them called to tell him the news Thursday.
"It's a huge loss for the state, for our recreation economy, and obviously a huge personal loss as well for myself and also all of our employees. It's really disappointing," he said. "This one hurts to lose, for sure."
The Utah Democratic Party issued a statement in reaction to the move:
“Today all Utahns are feeling the consequences of the far-right agenda of the Utah Republican Party. Through these frivolous law suits over public lands, and the designation of Bears Ears National Monument, Gov. Herbert and the Utah Republicans have lost Utah $45 Million in revenue with the exit of the Outdoor Retailers Convention.
With one breath, Governor Herbert touts our 5 , now 6, national monuments to increase tourism, and with another refuses to drop the party lines for the betterment of Utah’s economy. After listening to our Utah Republican leadership talk out of both sides of their mouth for years, the Outdoor Retailers finally put their foot down. Our Utah Republicans have proven once again that they have no respect for our beautiful and sacred lands.”
http://fox13now.com/2017/02/16/outdoor-retailers-will-not-consider-utah-for-site-of-future-shows/
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Feb 17, 2017 - 08:49pm PT
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And according to today's Denver Post the show will be moving
from SLC next year. . .
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Feb 17, 2017 - 10:41pm PT
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pyro specializes in spewing about things he knows nothing about. spew on trump bitch.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Feb 18, 2017 - 02:58pm PT
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Not interested in hearing whining from small business owners. They can VOTE their displeasure.
Not sure if this will have any affect, but I welcome it.
BTW Metcalf isn't with BD any more, but I still hold them accountable. They weren't very generous with Layton or jello either.
I haven't bought their gear in decades.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Mar 11, 2017 - 05:34pm PT
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Scott...Nice read thanks..
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Mar 11, 2017 - 06:35pm PT
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I enjoyed Chouinard's editorial. It is also great to see that I have managed to understand what he sees too.
Some 91% of Westerners agree that national parks, forests, wildlife refuges and other federal lands are essential to their state’s economic prosperity, but Americans who support protecting public lands are badly splintered. Hunters and anglers love and value our public lands, but the “hook and bullet” crowd scares off environmentalists and some businesspeople. Environmentalists love and value our public lands, but hardcore activists scare off most businesspeople and some hunters and anglers. Businesspeople love and value our public lands, but lots of folks get skeptical when corporations are involved in advocacy.
We need to work together to protect our public lands. We all value access to wild places where our air, water and wildlife are safe from pollution and development. We all benefit from the enormous economy generated by the conservation of our lands. And we all hate getting ripped off by hucksters posing as smart businesspeople, threatening not just our economy but our American heritage as well.
Let’s drop the discord, start acting like owners and demand that our elected representatives start delivering the value we deserve.
Anyone that wants to keep OUR PUBLIC lands PUBLIC, needs to accept that hunters, hikers, anglers, climbers, ORV & ATV riders, rockhounds, mountain-bikers, & car campers are all our friends in this fight.
Here's another thread on the subject. http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=2953218&msg=2954554#msg2954554
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Don Paul
Mountain climber
Denver CO
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