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WBraun
climber
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fall for anything
Like you almost always do ......
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Zzzzz, such a insufferable bore.
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WBraun
climber
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Better stand up quick cause you just fell ..... lol
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steve s
Trad climber
eldo
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Werner, go change a tire or something.
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c wilmot
climber
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Anyone know how many barrels of oil Patagonia uses each year to produce their synthetic products? Also where is the source/sources? I wonder if the oil they use is ethically produced.
I would be interested to know
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kunlun_shan
Mountain climber
SF, CA
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Apple has their own shows and own product launches that are ridiculously well-attended.
Apple stopped attending the annual MacWorld tradeshow in 2009. The show was finally cancelled in 2015 by IDG.
Good on Patagonia and Chouinard for standing up for their principles. A friend, who regularly receives cheques from Patagonia for a photo of his they use, is convinced Yvon is trying to give as much money as he can to climbers.
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c wilmot
climber
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Wade- that does not answer my questions.
To postulate: if they are using oil from say.... Nigeria- then how does that alter their stated ethics?
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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I don't understand how you conflate privatization of public land with petroleum usage. Please
explain.
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WBraun
climber
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We live in a complicated world and no one is innocent but anyone who makes a stand where they can is alright
Yes, this is the way ......
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c wilmot
climber
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US produced oil is done under regulations and with concern for the environment. Other countries like Nigeria, brasil etc do not operate under such guidelines.
I just wonder where the oil they use comes from
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Ok, well that makes sense if your issue is sourcing petroleum. What does that have to do with selling US public lands to private concerns?
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Brian in SLC
Social climber
Salt Lake City, UT
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From Forbes last November:
Utah
Gross State Product $147 B
As of November 2016
At a Glance
Population: 3,018,200
Governor: Gary Herbert
Median Household Income: $62,912
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Net Migration (2015): 15,700
Moody's Bond Rating: Aaa
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#1 Best States for Business
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Profile
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Patagonia who? Ha ha...
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c wilmot
climber
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Those public lands are usually sold for oil and gas exploration...oil for which Patagonia has always been reliant on.
Is the oil they use ethically produced? Or does the concern only apply to our backyard?
Last post by me. not knocking YC or patagona- I support their actions
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ecdh
climber
the east
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Wonder if they will boycott the Shot Show with their tactical and military line, just for balance?
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dirtbag
climber
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Feb 7, 2017 - 02:12pm PT
Those public lands are usually sold for oil and gas exploration...oil for which Patagonia has always been reliant on.
Is the oil they use ethically produced? Or does the concern only apply to our backyard?
Last post by me. not knocking YC or patagona- I support their actions
That is what you are doing.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Good for Patagonia....you are never wrong when you stand up for your beliefs.
Folks....I'm getting nervous, I was in Patagonia when it happened but now i'm just a month away coming back with the creature skulking in the White House.
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Brian in SLC
Social climber
Salt Lake City, UT
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I'm sure your recent travel to Iran will go unnoticed, Jim.
Ha ha.
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Bad Climber
Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
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Wilmot:
Are you just rattling chains or being obtuse? AFAIK, you don't get to pick "where" your oil comes from. Is that even possible? It's a global market, yes? Please, enlighten us if that's an option. We could lobby Patagonia to do what you suggest.
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