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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Jan 23, 2017 - 01:26pm PT
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Jan 24, 2017 - 06:20am PT
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And if all others accepted the lie which the Party imposed -if all records told the same tale — then the lie passed into history and became truth. 'Who controls the past,' ran the Party slogan, 'controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.' And yet the past, though of its nature alterable, never had been altered. Whatever was true now was true from everlasting to everlasting. It was quite simple. All that was needed was an unending series of victories over your own memory. 'Reality control', they called it: in Newspeak, 'doublethink'.
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ecdh
climber
the east
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Jan 24, 2017 - 12:43pm PT
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Be careful with the 'meh' position. Trivialization is more powerful than the outright lie and the true talent of the media branch of government - or the government branch of media depending on your flavor of koolaid.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Jan 24, 2017 - 12:47pm PT
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"Politics is the entertainment branch of the military industrial complex."
Frank Zappa
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yanqui
climber
Balcarce, Argentina
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Jan 24, 2017 - 01:00pm PT
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ecdh
climber
the east
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Jan 24, 2017 - 01:03pm PT
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Survival, exactly the quote that passed thru my mind whilst posting.
Remember the days when white musicians actually had something to say...?
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Jan 24, 2017 - 01:06pm PT
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Notice how Pepe the race symbol snuck into the cartoon above?
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Jan 24, 2017 - 01:18pm PT
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"The judge smiled. It is not necessary, he said, that the principals here be in possession of the facts concerning their case, for their acts will ultimately accommodate history with or without their understanding. But it is consistent with notions of right priniciple that these facts – to the extent that they can be readily made to do so – should find a repository in the witness of some third party. Mr Trump is just such a party and any slight to his office is but a secondary consideration when compared to divergences in that larger protocol exacted by the formal agenda of an absolute destiny. Words are things. The words he is in possession of he cannot be deprived of. Their authority transcends his ignorance of their meaning."
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ecdh
climber
the east
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Jan 24, 2017 - 01:32pm PT
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Id also heed caution of relying too much on the lens of 'history' as it too is distorted with revision and lies. No need to dig thru 70 years of retelling of the fascist story when plenty still alive voted for Nixon. they walk among you...
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WBraun
climber
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Jan 24, 2017 - 01:37pm PT
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This thread is "alternative facts"
ALL LIES and DISTORTIONS !!!!
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Jan 24, 2017 - 01:42pm PT
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Thanks for sharing your opinion, WBraun...
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WyoRockMan
climber
Grizzlyville, WY
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Jan 24, 2017 - 01:47pm PT
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"The very concept of alternative medicine exists to create a double standard where the rules of science and evidence are stood on their head specifically to manufacture the result that is desired by cranks, charlatans, snake-oil salesmen, and self-proclaimed gurus. There is no alternative medicine. There is just medicine. Either it works or it doesn't work.”
-Steven Novella
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clarkolator
climber
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Jan 24, 2017 - 01:48pm PT
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I'd like to see an alternative runout
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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Jan 24, 2017 - 04:28pm PT
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My life as a researcher just got a lot easier. If I can't get the results I was hoping for, I'll just come up with some "alternative" data that makes my life simpler. If some vindictive buzz kill reviewers and editors don't like it, well, f*#k 'em!
actually, our current white house is ahead of you. they dont even bother generating the fake data. think of the time that you will save, even if the data is wrong or you have no data, alternative facts allow you to say whatever you want! think nobel prize!
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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Jan 24, 2017 - 04:38pm PT
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i want whatever the duck is vapin'
gawd bless the queen
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Jan 25, 2017 - 12:06pm PT
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Apparently an alternative fact per day is how they intend to run the White House.
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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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Jan 25, 2017 - 12:11pm PT
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The best defense is good offense. If a slew of crap alternative facts keep coming, then it ties up people refuting those rather than focusing the conversation on the disastrous things happening for our country. The public has only so much of an appetite for headlines, and more dominated by the Trump administration, no matter how ridiculous, the more they get to stay in the shadows on more important stuff.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Jan 25, 2017 - 12:17pm PT
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2+2=5. I wonder why 1984 is back on the bestseller list?
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c wilmot
climber
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Jan 25, 2017 - 12:21pm PT
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You have always been presented with alternative facts. "rebels" to describe islamic terrorist groups often affiliated with Al Qaeda and Isis. "immigrants" to describe both legal and illegal. "separatists" to describe Ukrainian's who still supported their democratically elected president who was overthrown illegally in a US backed coup. etc.
Its great people are starting to question the media, but its all a little late
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