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mcreel

climber
Barcelona
Topic Author's Original Post - Jan 22, 2017 - 10:01am PT
My life as a researcher just got a lot easier. If I can't get the results I was hoping for, I'll just come up with some "alternative" data that makes my life simpler. If some vindictive buzz kill reviewers and editors don't like it, well, f*#k 'em!

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/kellyanne-conway-sean-spicer-alternative-facts-lies-press-briefing-donald-trump-administration-a7540441.html
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Jan 22, 2017 - 10:15am PT

Postfactual = lies
Alternative facts = lies
Misspoke = lies

Only Dogberry can tell American politicians who they are.

Bernie Sanders was trustworthy...
Obama has been quite trustworthy...
Hillary is an occasional lier...
Almost every Republican politician is a habitual lier... educated in the spirit of Carl Rove and Cialdini: There is no truth. We make the truth...
Trump is also a lier by his personality...
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Jan 22, 2017 - 10:16am PT

Dogberry: "Marry, sir, they have committed false report; moreover, they have spoken untruths; secondarily, they are slanders; sixth and lastly, they have belied a lady; thirdly, they have verified unjust things; and, to conclude, they are lying knaves."
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 22, 2017 - 10:19am PT
Ass you like it, sir.
--Fakespeare
clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
Jan 22, 2017 - 10:26am PT
You're all wrong. Ease the weight of responsibility by blaming in an outward direction from the center of self.
pud

climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
Jan 22, 2017 - 10:30am PT
Don't you guys ever get tired of your circle jerk whinefests?


thebravecowboy

climber
The Good Places
Jan 22, 2017 - 10:33am PT
we're laughing Pud.
clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
Jan 22, 2017 - 10:38am PT

Winefest

mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 22, 2017 - 10:40am PT
Always nice to have one more pud in the circle, babe.
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Jan 22, 2017 - 01:46pm PT

The world of Trump and his staff:

ecdh

climber
the east
Jan 22, 2017 - 01:55pm PT
The most elegant post truth is that post truth just started recently. The only thing new is the term. A fabulous diversion playing right into liberal paranoia, attacking the messenger not the message. Meanwhile conservative paranoia just rolls on.

Havent we been thru all this before...?
pud

climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
Jan 22, 2017 - 04:03pm PT
GCF,
You don't know me you fuk.
Enough crying from the great whine North, eh?.
tuolumne_tradster

Trad climber
Leading Edge of North American Plate
Jan 22, 2017 - 04:12pm PT
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 22, 2017 - 05:05pm PT
Does that mean I'm just an ass, not a mouse?

Thanks, but at least it's still Fakesure.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Jan 22, 2017 - 05:19pm PT
"The truth is so limiting."
Brian H_ _ _ _ r
drljefe

climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
Jan 22, 2017 - 08:04pm PT
mcreel

climber
Barcelona
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 22, 2017 - 10:35pm PT
With the Press Secretary's first action being to lie through his teeth about something that can easily be proven to be false, imagine what they're going to be telling us about things that are harder to check.

With the threats to the press, it seems like the administration would like to be holding their press conferences with Pravda and Breitbart, and no other correspondents. Maybe a self respecting press should boycott Spicer, rather than the other way around.

It would be nice if the ghost of Walter Cronkite would visit Spicer in the night, and scare some sense into him.

By the way, 8a.nu did a comparative study, and grades are harder in Spain than in Frankenjura. Anywhere else, I'd still be climbing 5.12. In fact, I did climb 5.12 last time I was abroad.
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Jan 23, 2017 - 10:30am PT
It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grams a week. And only yesterday […] it had been announced that the ration was to be reduced to twenty grams a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it.
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Jan 23, 2017 - 01:07pm PT

How this will end:

1. Offending remarks will be forbidden and what is offensive will be reinterpreted.
2. The reinterpretation will make it clear that telling the president and his staff that they are lying when they are lying, read: delivering their alternative facts, will be seen as offensive.
3. Those who offend the president by pointing out his lies will be followed by his lawyers and put in jail.

The American president will achieve the ultimate freedom, to lie about everything and define truth for the American people as he finds it useful to himself.

I think I have read the book once or twice...
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Jan 23, 2017 - 01:15pm PT
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