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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Demand for Meth or any drug isn't the issue. There will always be a demand and therefore a supply.
The problem is the absurd "war" on that supply waged by our governments on both sides. It's the dumbest and most wasteful effort ever...
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Scole
Trad climber
Zapopan
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I totally agree that the war on drugs is what perpetuates the violence. Legalize drugs and the problem goes away
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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^^ You both are spot on.
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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I totally agree that the war on drugs is what perpetuates the violence.
Watch for the trump administration to enhance the war on drugs.
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Hoser
climber
Vancouver,Rome
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I think I'll just say I am from Canada...Wish me luck
After 8 years, Americans are back to saying they are from Canada...wow - that was quick. I guess I will start seeing my flag on a lot more back packs again...
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ms55401
Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
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Jan 14, 2017 - 05:03pm PT
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I want my mom (70 yrs old) and her friend (70 too) to get a break from a cold Minnesota winter in February. any ideas where two 70-year-old women can have a hassle-free enjoyable time south of the border? goes without saying I don't want either to be decapitated.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jan 14, 2017 - 05:18pm PT
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You could suggest the Virgin Islands or Aruba if you care about them.
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nah000
climber
no/w/here
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Jan 14, 2017 - 05:21pm PT
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ms55401:
huatulco.
low key series of beaches/bays that still has all of the typically touristic desired amenity due to what was originally a govt funded push to turn the place into a tourist destination... fortunately that wasn't entirely successful so it has more of a small town feel than the big resort feel that i'm sure the mexico city bureaucrats were hoping for.
can't recommend highly enough... [with the one caveat being it's already been ten years since i was there]
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Jan 14, 2017 - 05:53pm PT
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My friends dad is or was building a house on baja coast. All was good tell mexico federals called and said they have his ashes and they dont know what he died of.
Yeah mexico is safe.. b.s.
Wear a i voted for bernie tshirt
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Jan 14, 2017 - 05:57pm PT
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Or better yet...Wear a " build the wall " t-shirt with trumps mug on it...
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Jan 14, 2017 - 06:02pm PT
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I totally agree that the war on drugs is what perpetuates the violence
WRONG!
Remember friends, Bluering thinks they only need a Duterte in Mexico to assassinate all the gangbangers. Problem solved!
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jan 14, 2017 - 06:03pm PT
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Puerto Vallarta or Cabo San Lucas, both great places with no real issues
Yer unaware of the running gun battle that happened on the main beach in Puerto Vallarta last year? It was a war zone! Every tourist's dream!
Cabo? It's just San Diego with a few more Mexicans.
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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Jan 14, 2017 - 07:24pm PT
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Just returned from six days in the area south of Puerto Vallarta (third year going there). This included a day trip to Tuito. No issues, but for the first time, there is an army presence (road stops/inspections). Good or bad? Who knows.
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7SacredPools
Trad climber
Ontario, Canada
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Jan 14, 2017 - 08:18pm PT
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We're headed to Huatulco Thursday morning with shoes and chalkbags. Can't yet find anything on whether it'd be worth bringing a rope and rack...
Either way, it's gonna be a good time :)
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nah000
climber
no/w/here
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Jan 14, 2017 - 09:03pm PT
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^^^^
don't recall seeing anything established or easily top ropeable... but a lot can happen in ten years... do recall informal bouldering on one of the beaches furthest to the east. have fun... am jealous. :)
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7SacredPools
Trad climber
Ontario, Canada
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Jan 14, 2017 - 09:42pm PT
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Thanks nah000, I'll post up pics of anything I find.
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berghold
Trad climber
Calistoga, CA
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Jan 15, 2017 - 10:29am PT
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Shoes and Chalk: Yes! And to the OP leave your concerns behind... No trouble here.
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JC Marin
Trad climber
CA
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Jan 15, 2017 - 10:45am PT
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I totally agree that the war on drugs is what perpetuates the violence. Legalize drugs and the problem goes away
While I don't disagree that narco traffic + US demand causes huge problems in Mexico (and Central and South America) I gotta say that Mexico's history is awash in blood. From Aztecs pulling people's hearts out, to the invasion of the Spanish through to the shooting of hundreds of students (in Tlatelolco) before the 1968 olympics--Mexico has always had an edge.
That being said, it's a beautiful county with beautiful people--just don't be an arrogant gringo and all should be well.
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