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Kalimon
Social climber
Ridgway, CO
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Woot!
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
Boulder climber
ne'er–do–well
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Werner not need a stinkin' kayak - he walk on water.
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Edge
Trad climber
Betwixt and Between Nederland & Boulder, CO
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16" overnight just west of Boulder at 8100'. I've shoveled the front and back decks three times, mostly for the dogs benefit, but the driveway is full depth. It's still coming down (ay-ah, never seen it go up...), but the 75' long drive is half shoveled.
Zero degrees today, high forties expected this weekend. Boulder is probably a sh#t show, but I'm staying at home and working in the shop.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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My bro in Frisco had to get some help with his driveway...
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Just a typical sunny winter day here in Seattle. Makes me glad I don't live in California where I hear it rains all the time.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Yeah, Ghost, but it ain't 22F here! It's a warm rain!
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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It rained steadily, in Moorpark, for more than 24 hours.... it is needed...
bring more.
And Yes, Oh Yes... "death and destruction is on the way... be afraid very afraid" ..... local weather Dude.
I remember when a storm like this was almost not talked about on the local TV... maybe a 100% chance, bring an umbrella.
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mooch
Trad climber
Tribal Base Camp (Kernville Annex)
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Always fear the combo of fire scars and a solid rain.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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It makes one think, though, about the whole impact of spending huge sums of money to restore damage to a previous condition, knowing that something else will be coming, sooner or later, to take it all out again.
perhaps there should be more thought to mitigation of the conditions that set up the damage potential.
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labrat
Trad climber
Erik O. Auburn, CA
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"perhaps there should be more thought to mitigation of the conditions that set up the damage potential"
So how would you go about this for Yosemite valley?
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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I don't know. It seems very complex to me, and would need to have a number of experts involved.
Maybe it means restoring the valley to a more pristine state, with camping move out altogether. Not advocating that, just playing with ideas. The roads may be in the wrong places (lowland), and should be built higher?
But otherwise, we are on a treadmill of $200 million in expenditures every decade or three, with nothing to really show for the money.
You wonder, for example, if they built in processes to shut down the sewage plant, to protect all the pumps and infrastructure, so it would be protected?
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Matt Sarad
climber
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Kern River peaked at 10,000 cfs today. Settled down to 8,000 cfs. My friend there texted " Brown and big".
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labrat
Trad climber
Erik O. Auburn, CA
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Might be some new river peaks coming soon.
The forecast says 9-13 inches of rain coming to Yosemite Valley in the 50 hours from Saturday to Monday......
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Bob Harrington
climber
Bishop, California
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Here's a nice site for tracking daily (7AM - 7AM) precipitation in the US. Volunteer observers. If you call up today's map for Inyo County, CA, my house is the one recording 0.59".
http://www.cocorahs.org/
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yeahman
Mountain climber
Montana
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"the trouble with this water is that it can't be stored as it is not falling as snow."
Actually, it COULD be stored if CA had built any reservoirs in the past 35+ years. WTF?
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cragnshag
Social climber
san joser
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I'd be curious to see how those new 140/120 retaining walls hold up- the ones just East of the 120/140 split. And other work done to shore things up since 1997.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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"the trouble with this water is that it can't be stored as it is not falling as snow."
Actually, it COULD be stored if CA had built any reservoirs in the past 35+ years. WTF?
WTF>???
This is WTF.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Francis_Dam
The department was under the direction of its General Manager and Chief Engineer, William Mulholland.
At 11:57PM on March 12, 1928, the dam catastrophically failed, and the resulting flood took the lives of as many as 425 people.[2] The collapse of the St. Francis Dam is considered to be one of the worst American civil engineering disasters of the 20th century and remains the second-greatest loss of life in California's history, after the 1906 San Francisco earthquake and fire.
The disaster marked the end of Mulholland's career.
This is when SOME people found out that you can't just build a dam anywhere you want, particularly in a region shot full of earthquake faults, like California happens to be. You have to be careful, and do a lot of study, not just throw things up. All the good sites are taken, already, and have been built.
Of course, you'd probably identify Tenmile Creek as the perfect spot to build a dam, west of town. But then you'd find Helena at the bottom of your reservoir. Good planning.
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Bob Harrington
climber
Bishop, California
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Ken, did you see the article in last week's New Yorker about Mosul Dam? Talk about a disaster waiting to happen - evaporites dissolving beneath the dam requiring constant grout pumping to fill the voids.
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Re building dams in the wrong places, I know Idaho doesn't count, but try searching Teton Dam Idaho. A Bureau of Reclamation fiasco.
It suffered a catastrophic failure on June 5, 1976, as it was filling for the first time.
The collapse of the dam resulted in the deaths of 11 people and 13,000 cattle. The dam cost about $100 million to build, and the federal government paid over $300 million in claims related to its failure. Total damage estimates have ranged up to $2 billion. The dam has not been rebuilt.
Teton dam failure photo. The dam was about one mile wide, so the breach is about 1/4 mile wide, to give some sense of scale.
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