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WBraun
climber
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Dec 21, 2016 - 04:52pm PT
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It cost zero money to go to Mars.
Anyone can go there anytime freely if so desires.
In your next life you will be born on Mars if you develop the consciousness in this life that you so desire to go there.
The foolish modern materialists unnecessarily waste the hard earned money of their people to mechanically go where the material body of the earthling can not naturally survive.
One must have martian body to live there although that is not the goal of the living being ever to reside on the material plane period.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Dec 21, 2016 - 05:19pm PT
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The technology that was gained and required for the Gemini and Apollo programs to be successful changed human history. As a direct result, huge advancements were made in communications, robotics, computer hardware and software, nanotechnology, aeronautics, transportation and health care industries to name but a few.
perhaps. But you have to compare---to what?
What if that money had been spent on basic research? In Ed H's realm. We might have safe Nuclear energy now, as part of our energy bundle. We might have never developed the coal that we have, and shared it with other countries, heading off Global Warming.
It is easy to push for one's favorite things, as you are doing. And that's fair.
But the impetus for Apollo was war, the cold war. Times have changed, I think.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Dec 21, 2016 - 05:33pm PT
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Yes and in our deeply divided country it will be done by educated people who firmly believe in science and the tools of logic, reason and experimentation.
Not
The science deniers who believe in the mumbo jumbo farcical biblical stories that even an educated seventh grader can see through.
Yeah there are two Americas and I am so thankful that I am not a part of the one steeped in false made up facts, conspiracy theories, racisim and plain old fashioned ignorance.
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Brokedownclimber
Trad climber
Douglas, WY
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Dec 26, 2016 - 04:26pm PT
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Man by his very nature is an explorer. Columbus set sail in a westward direction, even in the face of others saying he'd fall off the edge of the Earth. As climbers, we go to Nepal, and Patagonia WILLINGLY in search of "the new." It's called in aviation circles: pushing the outside of the envelope. We've been stuck in Low Earth Orbit for 40 years, and NASA is just too chickenshit to push things ever outward and ever upward. We had the capability immediately after conclusion of Apollo, but Tricky Dick didn't have the necessary intestinal fortitude to continue. Result: von Braun resigned from NASA, and impetus towards Mars died in it's tracks. We were subsequently saddled with a hyper-expensive Space Shuttle program and the ISS as "something to justify the cost."
With the emergence of Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos, we now have a couple of more visionary leaders of the pack. If nothing else, Musk and SpaceX have led the charge in reducing the cost of what will become the greatest voyage of exploration in the history of the world--the space journey to Mars.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Dec 26, 2016 - 04:55pm PT
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Yes, the truth is out there. It is worrisome to me when I see so many who would think they already know the answers, so they might think; what's the point of spending more money on space?
And what, exactly, is the question(S)?
We had the capability immediately after conclusion of Apollo, but Tricky Dick didn't have the necessary intestinal fortitude to continue.
Yeah, he didn't have anything occupying his attention---like Viet Nam. Instead of wasting his time and money, he should have just left all the GI's there, I guess you are saying.
There is always a choice.
Man by his very nature is an explorer. Columbus set sail in a westward direction, even in the face of others saying he'd fall off the edge of the Earth. As climbers, we go to Nepal, and Patagonia WILLINGLY in search of "the new." It's called in aviation circles: pushing the outside of the envelope.
SOME do, but nowhere near the vast majority. Man, by his very nature is a SURVIVOR, which means by it's very nature not taking chances. There are always some that do, but does it mean that the vast majority of non-risk takers, they should fund the fun and entertainment of the explorers? After all, we gave you the Sierra, Denali, private airplanes, SCUBA, hiking boots.....
With the emergence of Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos, we now have a couple of more visionary leaders of the pack. If nothing else, Musk and SpaceX have led the charge in reducing the cost of what will become the greatest voyage of exploration in the history of the world--the space journey to Mars.
If you don't mind getting blown up.
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Kalimon
Social climber
Ridgway, CO
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Dec 26, 2016 - 05:38pm PT
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Whitey's on Mars soon . . . I still can't pay my doctor bill (with Whitey on Mars).
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i-b-goB
Social climber
Wise Acres
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Dec 26, 2016 - 06:02pm PT
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Go fracking there!
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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Dec 27, 2016 - 06:56pm PT
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Passengers (2016)
See it in 3D, treat yourself, it is VERY good!
A commentator at imdb said do not listen to a couple professional critics re this movie who dissed it. I am glad I took this commentator's advice.
Visuals were stunning. Many concepts of the storyline were very interesting and thought-provoking. I might even see it again before the dvd release.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1355644/?ref_=nv_sr_1
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Ricky D
Trad climber
Sierra Westside
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Dec 27, 2016 - 07:39pm PT
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What if the Bazillionaires are going into Space just so they can remodel their houses with Martian granite counter tops in the kitchen and a Moon Rock fireplace for the living room?
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Dec 27, 2016 - 08:07pm PT
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The Chinese are gonna beat us to Mars. I say let 'em.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Dec 27, 2016 - 10:43pm PT
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I think Mars is going to continue to be there for a few more million years. What's the hurry?
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Dec 27, 2016 - 11:37pm PT
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Mars ain't deep space. It's just around the corner.
Stoopid Americans.
WBraun
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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I AM sure we will go to Mars. I just don't think in the next hundred years.
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Psilocyborg
climber
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I would like to invest in a time share on mars one day
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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I would like to invest in a time share on mars one day
I am absolutely certain that you could find someone who would sell you one... probably right now.
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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I know a realtor....
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Mar 18, 2017 - 10:44am PT
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We can no longer afford school lunches, Meals On Wheels or apparently the EPA.
Sorry Mars...
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