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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 5, 2016 - 03:44pm PT
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That's what they said about Marcos...
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Obama is a son of a bitch!
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survival
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Terrapin Station
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 5, 2016 - 05:44pm PT
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Thank you President Obama, for cancelling Duterte's ass from your meeting schedule in Laos.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 5, 2016 - 11:08pm PT
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Wow, Duterte's getting his Trump chops down tight!
Tough guy tough guy tough guy
Backpedal backpedal backpedal
Awesome.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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While referencing a 36-year-old Australian lay minister named Jacqueline Hamill, who was held hostage, raped, had her throat slashed and was shot in 1989, Duterte said, “I was angry because she was raped, that’s one thing. But she was so beautiful, the mayor should have been first. What a waste.”
And yes, he was referring to himself.
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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FACT!!!...
These things have occurred...
"1. Passed Health Care Reform: After five presidents over a century failed to create universal health insurance, signed the Affordable Care Act (2010). It will cover 32 million uninsured Americans beginning in 2014 and mandates a suite of experimental measures to cut health care cost growth, the number one cause of America’s long-term fiscal problems.
EDIT: Blah blah blah
50. Killed the F-22: In 2009, ended further purchases of Lockheed Martin single-seat, twin-engine, fighter aircraft, which cost $358 million apiece. Though the military had 187 built, the plane has never flown a single combat mission. Eliminating it saved $4 billion."...
51. Increased the national debt 100% in just 8 years to roughly $20 Trillion.
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Todd Eastman
climber
Bellingham, WA
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Even Obamacare can't help restore conservative brains to functional levels.
Duetarte is nuts and will drive his country back into the stoneage or into China's lap...
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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He may be nuts but he's got high popularity numbers.
What else matters to any politician? He was elected to do this.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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That backpedal and by the Butcher of Manila sure made obama look strong. Listening the the right wing nuts on here I would have expected Obama to apologize.
Footnote - Obama got a standing ovation from the G20 crowd. yes Virginia, we are well respected in the real world.
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couchmaster
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I thought President Obamas calm, adult, measured response to Duartes outburst was perfect, and it made me proud. Maybe the media does pick and choose such things to manipulate us and I could see that being an argument, but I didn't think any American citizen would have thought bad of our President for it otherwise. Big respect to you Cragman, but perhaps you didn't see the Presidents response? I'll go fish it out and post it up. Maybe even Pyro can learn something.
(I'd seen the Son of a Whore" version of the comment.) edit/update - "Duterte has bristled repeatedly at criticism over his "war on drugs", which has killed about 2,400 people since he took office two months ago, and on Monday said it would be "rude" for Obama to raise the question of human rights when they met. Such a conversation, Duterte told reporters, would prompt him to curse at Obama, using a Filipino phrase "putang ina" which can mean "son of a bitch" or "son of a whore"."
The meeting was cancelled of course and the reported news (this quote is from FOX NEWS specifically just for you all) was this:"Speaking at the G20 summit in China on Monday morning, Obama said he had heard about Duterte's "colorful" remarks and instructed his staff to see if meetings with Duterte would still be "productive."
I can understand Duterte carrying some anger as we subjugated that country to turn it into a colony, but we have had (generally) good relations with them since and calling any leader of an ally country is such a dumb assed thing to do. That ours took the high road and avoided the obvious stupidity of a dumb ass response in return, like a real statesman or a solid President, I see as a good thing Dean. High regard to Obama for it.
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ecdh
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the east
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Duetarte is a trump-like coward. using low brow personal insults on an official platform is lame, but then back peddling and mocking an apology because he got called on it is simply spineless cowardice.
but get used to it, cos its soon to be the biggest show on earth.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 6, 2016 - 03:53pm PT
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Cripes, what is it, 1930?
Back then we had Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini and Franco.
Now we have Putin, Trump and Duterte....
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Not a fair comparison, especially since the former stalwarts can't defend themselves
in the hallowed court of public opinion.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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I lived there for a year in 1985, junior year of high-school. The Philippines is an awesome place. Great people overall. Probably the friendliest to Americans in all of Asia.
The Philippines has had a problem for a while with Marxist rebels in the southern islands. Thy used to lay pretty low and it was understood they'd be left, largely, alone.
This really started to change when Islamic militancy grew in these southern islands with encouragement from Malaysia, Indonesia, and even Thailand. The group, MILF, was born. The Moro Islamic Liberation Force.
These guys started to kidnap and behead people, like their crazy Islamic brothers. The Philippines, backed by US special forces, began hunting these MILF dudes.
They have caused all kinds of chaos in the Philippines. Including more drug-running and killings. Duterte is not putting up with it anymore.
The same should be done in Mexico.
EDIT: Our former Naval base in the Phils should be a priority for our next president. Subic Bay. Very strategic base for us, and the Filipinos tend to always side with us. We have very common interests.
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stevep
Boulder climber
Salt Lake, UT
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So Bluering...you're good with extra-judicial killing. Cops/politicians deciding who should be executed with no trial? Because that is what Duterte is doing right now to people totally unassociated with MILF in Manila.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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So Bluering...you're good with extra-judicial killing. Cops/politicians deciding who should be executed with no trial? Because that is what Duterte is doing right now to people totally unassociated with MILF in Manila.
No, not really. But WE do not have all the facts. It IS a soveriegn country with their own laws.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 6, 2016 - 04:58pm PT
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But WE do not have all the facts. It IS a soveriegn country with their own laws.
Yes, they do have their own laws. Maybe even a couple things you would recognize in their Bill Of Rights.
Section 1
No person shall be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law, nor shall any person be denied the equal protection of the laws.
Section 2
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects against unreasonable searches and seizures of whatever nature and for any purpose shall be inviolable, and no search warrant or warrant of arrest shall issue except upon probable cause to be determined personally by the judge after examination under oath or affirmation of the complainant and the witnesses he may produce, and particularly describing the place to be searched and the persons or things to be seized.
"Yes, but we already knew that they were a drug dealer!"
In places like the good ol' USA, even if we KNOW they're a drug dealer, we don't execute them on the street! We arrest them, charge them, and then put them on trial, or get a plea bargain out of them.
Republicans love to scream about Chicago. There have been 500 gun deaths in ALL OF 2016, generally by one lawless person against another, with too many innocents caught in the crossfire.
In Duterte's Philippines, there have been 2,000 in just 7 weeks.
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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We should go and be the world police and clean up the Philippines because he's a meany and those people need our help.....
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 6, 2016 - 05:29pm PT
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Nobody said that exactly escargot. But we did basically put ourselves in the position of the supposedly "indispensable" nation. A world in chaos, and oppressed peoples rightly look to the "greatest nation in the world" for help.
Look, I understand Idaho's desire for a big beautiful white wall so they don't have to think about brown people, but those days are passed.
We definitely should hold our "allies" accountable for the way they treat their own people, to the extent that we can, without invading their sovereign bitchin'ness.
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